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Some Italian olive oil actually comes from other countries

http://www.bonasavoir.ch/actu_online...=921755&page=1

The Primadonna (Lidl) bottle I have at home says "bottled in Italy" but also "made from a mix of oils from EU countries."
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Re: Some Italian olive oil actually comes from other countries

Yes, that's actually nothing new and it is always stated on the bottle.
Personally I would only buy olive oil which has well specified exact location of origin (not just country but also the exact town/area). The taste will vary significantly from area to area.
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Re: Some Italian olive oil actually comes from other countries

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The Primadonna (Lidl) bottle I have at home says "bottled in Italy" but also "made from a mix of oils from EU countries."
So they are not even claiming that it is Italian.
What is your point?
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Re: Some Italian olive oil actually comes from other countries



In the front label they put an Italian brand, labeling in Italian, and a picture of a 19-century Italian gentleman.

Then on the back, in small characters, they say "blend of EU olive oils."

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Bottles of several well-known brands, labeled in Italian, do not always contain what they promise: we can find there a mixture of different oils of the European Union.

The Italian olive oil is the oil sold in Switzerland.On the bottles, the words and formulas abound in Italian: "Olio di Oliva", "Fruttato", "Selezione Speciale", "A gusto unico" ... Two brands, Monini (available at Migros) and Carapelli (at Manor) also claim to be number one in their country.

Composition small print

Inside the bottle, for cons, it's a different story on the back of products, one often discovers the words "blend of olive oils of European Union", "of European origin Oils» , or "mixture of oils in the EU and Tunisia."But we must, for this, decipher the composition, printed in small barely legible.And these examples are anything but rare, since such oils are sold both at Aldi as Coop, Denner, Lidl, Manor, Migros and Spar.Suffice to say in almost every major helvètes surfaces.We found the following examples:

CarapelliExtra Natives Olivenöl - Classico
The "number 1 in Italy" (in the bottle) highlights its link with the city of Florence.If the mark has indeed been founded in 1893 in the capital of Tuscany, the oil that is found in the bottle is she, a mixture coming from the EU.It is found among others at Manor (14.90 fr. / 0.75 l.)Filippo BerioOlio Extra Vergine di Oliva - Il Classico
"Il Classico", perhaps, but not Italian: the back, in small type, we find the words "blend of Community olive oils".Notably found in Coop rays (13.95 fr. / L.)De CeccoOlio Extra Vergine di Oliva - Fruttato
On the front of the label, it says, in Italian, "From the family De Cecco, with passion.A unique taste. "On the back, the composition refers to a blend of olive oils of European Union.It is sold in Eurospar stores (5.95 fr. / 0.25 l.)

Yet it is possible to be more transparent, as evidenced by the example of Monini, including a brand sold by Migros.Its productsClassicoandDelicatoalso contain oil from various European countries, but the manufacturer is clearly announced on the neck of the bottle.He explains that because of the weather conditions in Italy, the last harvest was poor and the production of local olives dropped.
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In the front label they put an Italian brand, labeling in Italian, and a picture of a 19-century Italian gentleman.

Then on the back, in small characters, they say "blend of EU olive oils."

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You could say the same about some Fiats that are produced in Poland. Is that an issue for you too?
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Re: Some Italian olive oil actually comes from other countries

Or how about Bündnerfleisch, this is imported meat from South America, Ireland, South Africa or Australia which is only 'cured' in Bündnerland.
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Re: Some Italian olive oil actually comes from other countries

Or a bottle of grain liquor, branded "Highlander" and featuring a Scottish piper on its front label. Then, in smaller characters, it says "Produced in Bulgaria."

That actually happened.



Note that nowhere did it say" Scotch" or even "whisky." But the Scotch Whisky Association had the brand removed.
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Re: Some Italian olive oil actually comes from other countries

Whenever a profit can be made...
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Re: Some Italian olive oil actually comes from other countries

Most of the 'italian' olive Oil is spanish. Spain is the bigger producer of olive oil in the world , around 50% of the total ( italians around 15%). But italians are the big exporters.

The flavour depends on the variety of the olive ( arbequina, cornicabra, picual, etc..) but it is common to find some of them mixed for big productions and 'white brands' in order to create a 'estandar taste'.

It is better to buy olive oil 'virgen extra' of a specific variety it is the best option ever.
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Or a bottle of grain liquor, branded "Highlander" and featuring a Scottish piper on its front label. Then, in smaller characters, it says "Produced in Bulgaria."

That actually happened.



Note that nowhere did it say" Scotch" or even "whisky." But the Scotch Whisky Association had the brand removed.
Isn't there something similar in India. "100 Pipers" or something, which is still widely available over there.
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Re: Some Italian olive oil actually comes from other countries

Can someone then please recommend a good and well-priced olive oil for cooking and salads etc that is 100% Italian? Available in Switzerland, of course...
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Re: Some Italian olive oil actually comes from other countries

The demand for certain products worldwide would make it impossible for one country to produce the amount to supply, simple.
When I go to Italy, I ask in the shop their best within a certain price range that's a 100% Italian.
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Re: Some Italian olive oil actually comes from other countries

I was in Greece by an Olive Oil factory, where these huge containers were filling up to drive to Italy.

We use different grades of Olive oil depending whether for salad or chips.

I would like to know that they use to thin down the olive oil, whether it says Extra Virgin or not, one knows it is not 100% olive oil.
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Re: Some Italian olive oil actually comes from other countries

Raineri is superb stuff from Liguria.
When down in Cinque Terre, there are Cooperatives scattered through the hills that supply products collected from local producers.
We buy gallons of the Olive Oil, simply delectable, it has an almost flourescent green colour.

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Re: Some Italian olive oil actually comes from other countries

Most olive oil sold in Italy is not 100% Italian, though most producers will have some varieties that are, in which case it will say "100% Italian Olives" quite clearly on the label.



If it doesn't, it's not.



I order 30 liters a year from my wife's cousin in Italy, who gets it from somebody he knows.

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Re: Some Italian olive oil actually comes from other countries

Get a grip you lot.

When you buy a Mars bar, you do realise it doesn't actually come from Mars, don't you?

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Get a grip you lot.

When you buy a Mars bar, you do realise it doesn't actually come from Mars, don't you?
But it doesn't claim to, either.
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But it doesn't claim to, either.
Neither does the OP's olive oil.

OP - Were you happy with the oil before you read the label? Does it taste any different now that you have? What's changed?
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Neither does the OP's olive oil.
Indeed.

In the photos I posted of two varieties of De Cecco, one does, and the other doesn't, despite both being Extra Virgin Olive Oil made by the same Italian company.

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