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Hi guys!

I've just moved to Geneva for 1 month and a half. I found out that the Carrefour in Ferney Voltaire is way cheaper than Suisse supermarkets and I shop there every 2 weeks. However, since last Friday, France has strengthened their border control. Do you guys think it is worth to go there to buy stuff again in this situation? I mean not about being shot by terrorists but the border control might get me in trouble even though I have B-Permit and a valid passport. Btw, I'm Asian (not Chinese) as well so can I really get any problems except for time-consuming check?

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Re: French supermarket

it is totally understandable, that the french government reacts this way,
the state of emergency was declared and will last min.12 days if not 3 months.
I would reckon, that border security will be tighter the upcoming weeks and everbody, who crosses the border could be searched or frisked, if nessescary.
Plan some extra time at the border , have everything in order(documents ready, ) cooperate with the border service.

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Re: French supermarket

Just make sure you have your id (passport and permit just to be on the safe side).
Delays at Ferney are really no worse than they usually are... just don't go over the permitted limits for meat, etc. for a while.
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it is totally understandable, that the french government reacts this way,
the state of emergency was declared and will last min.12 days if not 3 months.
I would reckon, that border security will be tighter the upcoming weeks and everbody, who crosses the border could be searched or frisked, if nessescary.
Plan some extra time at the border , have everything in order(documents ready, ) cooperate with the border service.
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Just make sure you have your id (passport and permit just to be on the safe side).
Delays at Ferney are really no worse than they usually are... just don't go over the permitted limits for meat, etc. for a while.
Border security may be tighter, but it doesn't have any effect on how much meat you can legally bring into Switzerland!
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Border security may be tighter, but it doesn't have any effect on how much meat you can legally bring into Switzerland!
Don't be a dumbarse and try to comprehend the meaning of what was written.

Obviously, the limits haven't changed - but whereas previously <someone> may have risked a bit over the limit, believing that there was a good chance that they wouldn't be stopped and searched; now there would be more chance of security searches with over-allowance goods being something that could be enforced, albeit a side issue to what is being sought.
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Re: French supermarket

I hope there will be no big problem occuring when I cross the border. Is there any chance that I get caught for no reason? Like for investigation?
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Don't be a dumbarse and try to comprehend the meaning of what was written.

Obviously, the limits haven't changed - but whereas previously <someone> may have risked a bit over the limit, believing that there was a good chance that they wouldn't be stopped and searched; now there would be more chance of security searches with over-allowance goods being something that could be enforced, albeit a side issue to what is being sought.
I would have thought that someone being over the limit was the least of Switzerland's worries at the moment.
http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/schweiz/...story/26671213
And in light of recent events even more so.
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I would have thought that someone being over the limit was the least of Switzerland's worries at the moment.
http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/schweiz/...story/26671213
And in light of recent events even more so.
Anyway, it is unnecessary to risk your legal status by bringing more than the limit. So just dont do anything suspicious at this moment, that's what they mean i think
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Re: French supermarket

it doesn't change a thing, just have the documents (which you should have anyway when you cross the border) they may check IDs. before schengen people would go buy stuff over the border too.
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I hope there will be no big problem occuring when I cross the border. Is there any chance that I get caught for no reason? Like for investigation?
How do you mean caught? ..... are you on the run, or guilty of something?

Even, under the present situation, border guards on both sides can't just apprehend someone because of the ethnicity or appearance (hopefully), for no good reason.

But if you are concerned and end up looking anxious or worried at the border control, that could possibly arouse suspicions.
Just play it safe and pay a bit more and shop at Migros, for a while - a few franks, really ain't worth the hassle.
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How do you mean caught? ..... are you on the run, or guilty of something?

Even, under the present situation, border guards on both sides can't just apprehend someone because of the ethnicity or appearance (hopefully), for no good reason.

But if you are concerned and end up looking anxious or worried at the border control, that could possibly arouse suspicions.
Just play it safe and pay a bit more and shop at Migros, for a while - a few franks, really ain't worth the hassle.
Of course I'm smart enough not to be anxious in such place. Anyway, I decide to go to Lidl instead. I got paid by Swiss salary, I should buy in Switzerland (internship fyi)
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I would have thought that someone being over the limit was the least of Switzerland's worries at the moment.
http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/schweiz/...story/26671213
And in light of recent events even more so.
Sorry .... it's in the press, so it must be true.

Maybe the French-speaking border guards haven't read that particular German language publication and don't realise that it's now not a problem to have half a cow strapped to the car roof, when crossing the border.
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it's now not a problem to half half a cow strapped to the car roof, when crossing the border.
There is be no reason to do this at any time as the legal limit before tax is due is calculated 'per person, per day'.
Either travel with someone to increase the limit in your group or if you are alone and/or really need more meat you could go again the next day to buy and bring in more, legally.
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Re: French supermarket

I crossed border to France & back in Saturday, nobody at border crossing, neither Swiss nor French.
This one was one of the smaller crossings, but I saw French guys doing there checks before.
On sunday, I went to France again, via big border crossing, again nobody anywhere.

As for bringing goods, you most probably realize that it's the French guys who increased their border presence (well, not according to my experience, but let's say they did), and they couldn't care less about what you bring OUT of their country. In fact, the more you shop back there the better, since you leave money in their economy (plus nobody claims VAT back from Carrefour shopping, do they).

Anyway some good advices here - have papers OK, know the limits how much you can take safely (meat & alcohol especially), but don't get into panic mode - nobody will take your B permit just because you took one too many wine bottles, you might get a (possibly hefty) fine in worst possible case. Of course if they stop you and you run out of the car into the fields screaming that you don't have a bomb, things might end up differently...
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Re: French supermarket

I'm going tomorrow morning to my chalet in France for the first time since the terrorist attacks in Paris. I will report back about the border crossing from Morgins, CH to Chatel, FR. It should be interesting because the actual douane building on the French side has been, for two years now, turned into a museum and it is not manned, ever. (The Swiss douane building is manned from time to time, mostly on Sunday, to catch Swiss residents shopping for meat at the Intermarche in Chatel.)

Just as an aside, for those of you who read/understand French, the museum at the border in Chatel is all about the "contrebandiers" or smugglers who used to go over to Bex in Switzerland to the salt mines and smuggle the salt back into France because salt was a high commodity back in the day. It's quite an interesting story and if you ever find yourself crossing that border and you understand French, you should stop and have a look.
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Re: French supermarket

Just an aside, does that road remain open most of the time in Winter? Will be travelling to Morzine regularly so just checking the various routes.
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Yep, always open and cleared.
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Re: French supermarket

Just make sure you don't let the border police know your EF username and you'll be fine.
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Just make sure you don't let the border police know your EF username and you'll be fine.
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A different route

Just before you enter the tunnel leading to the border crossing, turn right at the light. Keep going straight for about 5 minutes and the first roundabout turn left again ( enter at 6 exit at 9 ).
You will then enter France through an unmanned border crossing called "douane de Vireloup" go straight and you will end up in the center of Ferney-Voltaire (Carrefour will be to your left), thus avoiding the lines at Ferney border crossing.

Take the same route when you come back, the 5 min drive is a lot more pleasant than sitting in traffic.
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