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Is traubenzucker corn syrup?

I am told it means "grape sugar" but some sites say it also means corn syrup. Anyone know if they are different or interchangeable?
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Re: Is traubenzucker corn syrup?

It is Glucose.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glucose
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Re: Is traubenzucker corn syrup?

I saw that when googling, but it could be made from grapes as th name vs corn
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Re: Is traubenzucker corn syrup?

I believe it to be glucose derived from the natural sugars contained in grapes.

However, this may not be accurate, as eiweiss pertains to protein and not egg whites.
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Re: Is traubenzucker corn syrup?

Traubenzucker is the German laymen's term for Glucose. Nothing else.

Many terms which are used in other languages (English, French, Spanish, Turkish) in its original Greek or Latin form have a German or Swedish name.

In Sweden it is druvsocker. (Druva == Grape)
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Re: Is traubenzucker corn syrup?

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I believe it to be glucose derived from the natural sugars contained in grapes.
from what I am gathering it originally was that but now it's from corn, according to someone else who I just asked

My kid can't have corn and her dad has argued it's not corn syrup, the french is listed as "dextrose" which is usually a no no food then

If COOP has it as traubenzucker is it safe to assume it's corn?
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Re: Is traubenzucker corn syrup?

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Traubenzucker
noun
ein Monosaccharid (Einfachzucker), das zu den Kohlenhydraten gehört
Traubenzucker → corn sugar; dextrose; grape sugar
Traubenzucker
noun
simple monosaccharide sugar
glucose → Glukose; Traubenzucker
naturally-occurring form of glucose
dextrose → Traubenzucker; Dextrose


Seems to be ambiguous.
You'll need to check the labelled ingredients on the packaging.
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If COOP has it as traubenzucker is it safe to assume it's corn?
Glucose is made from starch. The starch could be originally from corn, potato, tapioca etc. Who knows.
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Seems to be ambiguous.
You'll need to check the labelled ingredients on the packaging.
Ambiguity comes from English, See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corn_sugar

In German Traubenzucker -> Glucose.
In English Corn sugar -> Glucose or Corn sugar -> HFCS.
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Re: Is traubenzucker corn syrup?

The 'traubenzucker' that the kids use for diabetes management is usually the product 'dextro-energy' which is dextrose (glucose) and most of it is made from corn...

Glucose...is Glucose....is Glucose.... we all need it for energy...our body makes it from carbohydrates, whether they are sugars or starches...how much we get of it in our diet, and how quickly we burn it depends on the individual...

Why can the child not have corn ? Pure dextrose should not have any other contaminants (eg. proteins which are usually the culprit for allergy) or pollens (eg. hayfever causing allergens found in a corn field)...

My son is 'gluten free' but technically could have glucose derived from wheat, which normally has gluten, but the sugar produced should (in theory) be purified to the point where it won't have any gluten left...so no problem having 'wheat glucose syrup' even though normally he cannot eat wheat...
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Re: Is traubenzucker corn syrup?

Seems if it is a true corn allergy then Dextrose/Traubenzucker is off the menu!

http://acaai.org/allergies/types/foo...y/corn-allergy
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The 'traubenzucker' that the kids use for diabetes management is usually the product 'dextro-energy' which is dextrose (glucose) and most of it is made from corn...

Glucose...is Glucose....is Glucose.... we all need it for energy...our body makes it from carbohydrates, whether they are sugars or starches...how much we get of it in our diet, and how quickly we burn it depends on the individual...

Why can the child not have corn ? Pure dextrose should not have any other contaminants (eg. proteins which are usually the culprit for allergy) or pollens (eg. hayfever causing allergens found in a corn field)...

My son is 'gluten free' but technically could have glucose derived from wheat, which normally has gluten, but the sugar produced should (in theory) be purified to the point where it won't have any gluten left...so no problem having 'wheat glucose syrup' even though normally he cannot eat wheat...
Life is based on sugar, but doesn't have to be from corn.

She has severe eczema flares from corn products.
We have to use a lot of steroid cream and being corn free = a lot less steroids

Right now it is not an allergy as in ANA reaction but she used to eat corn with no issue, so the GP is unsure if the exposure will lead to something more severe down the road
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Seems if it is a true corn allergy then Dextrose/Traubenzucker is off the menu!

http://acaai.org/allergies/types/foo...y/corn-allergy
According to this, pure Glucose used in Europe is mostly derived from wheat: http://surefoodsliving.com/2008/09/i...p-gluten-free/

You may try your luck. Depends how bad the allergy and how experimental you are.
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Re: Is traubenzucker corn syrup?

Been-there-done that...my eldest has about 25 known allergies including household chemicals, cosmetic ingredients as well as some foods...

Simple answer...yes...traubenzucker is very likely to come from corn, and for the sake of avoiding a 'flare-up' you'd be best advised to avoid it...

Alternatively, if you really want 'traubenzucker' to be part of her life, then I guess you can do a test and see if she can really tolerate it...

My daughter's allergic response (eczema flare) was around 16-24 hours after consumption. The delayed reaction made it quite problematic to narrow down the likely triggers...she ended up cutting out tomato, kiwi fruit, egg plant, strawberries, and it made a big difference...but of course all people with eczema have different triggers...hers are not the classic 'protein' allergies I think...
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Re: Is traubenzucker corn syrup?

Make your own Traubenzucker-Drops :

http://www.analytics-shop.com/de/cat...ose+monohydrat

I assume the producer can say what kind of starch was used.
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Been-there-done that...my eldest has about 25 known allergies including household chemicals, cosmetic ingredients as well as some foods...

Simple answer...yes...traubenzucker is very likely to come from corn, and for the sake of avoiding a 'flare-up' you'd be best advised to avoid it...

Alternatively, if you really want 'traubenzucker' to be part of her life, then I guess you can do a test and see if she can really tolerate it...

My daughter's allergic response (eczema flare) was around 16-24 hours after consumption. The delayed reaction made it quite problematic to narrow down the likely triggers...she ended up cutting out tomato, kiwi fruit, egg plant, strawberries, and it made a big difference...but of course all people with eczema have different triggers...hers are not the classic 'protein' allergies I think...

Oh yeah I know, for a long time the one doc swore it was milk, but when did no dairy it wasn't better, so I don't think it really is the case. She did eat actual corn though, we moved a few years ago and then boom it flared and since it's been tube after tube after tube of steriods. Even in 3 countries and different locations, it's here to stay it seems

Strawberries are an issue too, blueberries are ok. I'd like to try to cut out tomato but she is dead against it, again she has been ok with it, it's usually
corn that is the big trigger.

She's had corn laced foods for weeks and her skin is awful, so without trying we did "trial" whatever is in the COOP version of traubenzucker, and it's not working.

Cooking everything from scratch is a pain, but what can I do. The new homemade ice cream is good though I admit (another corn laden product)

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Make your own Traubenzucker-Drops :

http://www.analytics-shop.com/de/cat...ose+monohydrat

I assume the producer can say what kind of starch was used.
Can ask but admittedly most places say it's not a top allergen and don't have to tell us and refuse
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