Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Help & tips > Food and drink
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 18.09.2008, 16:28
Brianb_ie's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Zurich
Posts: 619
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 121 Times in 87 Posts
Brianb_ie has earned the respect of manyBrianb_ie has earned the respect of manyBrianb_ie has earned the respect of many
Apple Pie and Cooking Apples

What do people use in Switzerland instead of cooking apples in dishes like apple tart or apple crumble etc? Unless cooking apples are available although i've never seen them...?


Cheers

B
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 18.09.2008, 16:36
Sandgrounder's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: ZH
Posts: 5,767
Groaned at 43 Times in 37 Posts
Thanked 6,668 Times in 2,851 Posts
Sandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Apple Pie and Cooking Apples

Quote:
View Post
What do people use in Switzerland instead of cooking apples in dishes like apple tart or apple crumble etc? Unless cooking apples are available although i've never seen them...?


Cheers

B
I use a combo of Boskoop and Braeburn apples, both available in Migros and Coop.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Sandgrounder for this useful post:
  #3  
Old 18.09.2008, 16:44
Deep Purple's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: England
Posts: 3,642
Groaned at 8 Times in 7 Posts
Thanked 2,992 Times in 1,542 Posts
Deep Purple has a reputation beyond reputeDeep Purple has a reputation beyond reputeDeep Purple has a reputation beyond reputeDeep Purple has a reputation beyond reputeDeep Purple has a reputation beyond reputeDeep Purple has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Apple Pie and Cooking Apples

I hadn't thought about this before, but I don't recall seeing typical English Apple Crumble or pie with stewed Apple (Bramleys). Desserts tend to be like Tart Tatin where sliced apple such as Golden Delicious is more usual.

I cannot think of any particular reason why Bramleys etc. are not available.

Rod
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Deep Purple for this useful post:
  #4  
Old 18.09.2008, 16:56
Sandgrounder's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: ZH
Posts: 5,767
Groaned at 43 Times in 37 Posts
Thanked 6,668 Times in 2,851 Posts
Sandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Apple Pie and Cooking Apples

Quote:
View Post
I hadn't thought about this before, but I don't recall seeing typical English Apple Crumble or pie with stewed Apple (Bramleys). Desserts tend to be like Tart Tatin where sliced apple such as Golden Delicious is more usual.

I cannot think of any particular reason why Bramleys etc. are not available.

Rod
They are perhaps a bit too tart for the Swiss. I find using the apples I mention above work just fine plus you don't need half a bag of sugar to sweeten them, like you do with Bramleys, so it's good from a calorific point of view - unless, of course, you swamp your pie with custard like in our house...
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 18.09.2008, 17:00
Brianb_ie's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Zurich
Posts: 619
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 121 Times in 87 Posts
Brianb_ie has earned the respect of manyBrianb_ie has earned the respect of manyBrianb_ie has earned the respect of many
Re: Apple Pie and Cooking Apples

Thanks for the tips guys

This is now what i'm going to make

No custart for me though........vanilla ice cream is the best

http://www.jamieoliver.com/recipes/d...-and-apple-pie
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 18.09.2008, 17:07
Brianb_ie's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Zurich
Posts: 619
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 121 Times in 87 Posts
Brianb_ie has earned the respect of manyBrianb_ie has earned the respect of manyBrianb_ie has earned the respect of many
Re: Apple Pie and Cooking Apples

Here's another quick question actually for anyone who's made jam in switzerland before........

A recipe i have asks for high pectin sugar (jam sugar)........anyone know what this is in german or where to get it?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 18.09.2008, 17:31
cremebrulee's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Zurich
Posts: 293
Groaned at 5 Times in 4 Posts
Thanked 142 Times in 75 Posts
cremebrulee is considered knowledgeablecremebrulee is considered knowledgeablecremebrulee is considered knowledgeable
Re: Apple Pie and Cooking Apples

Quote:
View Post
What do people use in Switzerland instead of cooking apples in dishes like apple tart or apple crumble etc? Unless cooking apples are available although i've never seen them...?


Cheers

B
I prefer to use Granny Smith applies when cooking or baking. Braeburns are also good, but not as tart as Granny Smiths. You can usually find them both in Coop or Migros, depending on the season.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 18.09.2008, 17:36
cremebrulee's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Zurich
Posts: 293
Groaned at 5 Times in 4 Posts
Thanked 142 Times in 75 Posts
cremebrulee is considered knowledgeablecremebrulee is considered knowledgeablecremebrulee is considered knowledgeable
Re: Apple Pie and Cooking Apples

Quote:
View Post
Here's another quick question actually for anyone who's made jam in switzerland before........

A recipe i have asks for high pectin sugar (jam sugar)........anyone know what this is in german or where to get it?
I think it's called Gelierzucker which you can find with the other sugars they stock in Coop.

Dr. Oetker also have a range of pectin sugar which you can also find at Coop.

Happy cooking!
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank cremebrulee for this useful post:
  #9  
Old 18.09.2008, 17:38
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: CH
Posts: 10,134
Groaned at 559 Times in 416 Posts
Thanked 19,729 Times in 6,626 Posts
Dougal's Breakfast has a reputation beyond reputeDougal's Breakfast has a reputation beyond reputeDougal's Breakfast has a reputation beyond reputeDougal's Breakfast has a reputation beyond reputeDougal's Breakfast has a reputation beyond reputeDougal's Breakfast has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Apple Pie and Cooking Apples

Not entirely on topic, but if anyone sees any Egremont Russets on sale - anywhere in Switzerland - please let me know!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 18.09.2008, 17:39
Wibble's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Basel(ish)
Posts: 249
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 95 Times in 62 Posts
Wibble has made some interesting contributions
Re: Apple Pie and Cooking Apples

Quote:
View Post
Here's another quick question actually for anyone who's made jam in switzerland before........

A recipe i have asks for high pectin sugar (jam sugar)........anyone know what this is in german or where to get it?
I've not made jam it in CH, and I've never used extra pectin sources.

What fruit are you using that doesn't have enough pectin already? You can also cook the seeds in with the fruit and (supposedly) you get pectin from these. For example when I made kumquat jam I boiled the seeds up (inside a cloth bag) with the fruit. It all set beautifully. Doesn't the skin of the fruit contain the major source of pectin?

cheers,
(Mr)Wibble
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 18.09.2008, 17:46
Wibble's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Basel(ish)
Posts: 249
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 95 Times in 62 Posts
Wibble has made some interesting contributions
Re: Apple Pie and Cooking Apples

I'm not trying to cause trouble...

but...

(IMMHO...)

That pie looks awful!

The fruit is hardly cooked, and look at all the liquid! The pastry on the bottom would be all soggy. Hmmm, maybe it doesn't have pastry on the bottom?!

It would be like hot fruit salad with wet biscuit.

*shrug*
(Mr)Wibble
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 18.09.2008, 17:51
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: OOO
Posts: 3,602
Groaned at 84 Times in 58 Posts
Thanked 1,626 Times in 986 Posts
Sada has a reputation beyond reputeSada has a reputation beyond reputeSada has a reputation beyond reputeSada has a reputation beyond reputeSada has a reputation beyond reputeSada has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Apple Pie and Cooking Apples

Quote:
View Post
Not entirely on topic, but if anyone sees any Egremont Russets on sale - anywhere in Switzerland - please let me know!
Quel gourmand vous êtes, monsieur Dougal
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 18.09.2008, 18:12
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: no longer here
Posts: 593
Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post
Thanked 629 Times in 213 Posts
Jack has a reputation beyond reputeJack has a reputation beyond reputeJack has a reputation beyond reputeJack has a reputation beyond reputeJack has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Apple Pie and Cooking Apples

I have put together an apple tasting chart on our website, which covers quite a few of the common apple varieties available fresh in Switzerland...Perhaps this list can help you find the right apple for you...
Reply With Quote
The following 8 users would like to thank Jack for this useful post:
  #14  
Old 18.09.2008, 18:23
Deep Purple's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: England
Posts: 3,642
Groaned at 8 Times in 7 Posts
Thanked 2,992 Times in 1,542 Posts
Deep Purple has a reputation beyond reputeDeep Purple has a reputation beyond reputeDeep Purple has a reputation beyond reputeDeep Purple has a reputation beyond reputeDeep Purple has a reputation beyond reputeDeep Purple has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Apple Pie and Cooking Apples

Quote:
View Post
I'm not trying to cause trouble...

but...

(IMMHO...)

That pie looks awful!

The fruit is hardly cooked, and look at all the liquid! The pastry on the bottom would be all soggy. Hmmm, maybe it doesn't have pastry on the bottom?!

It would be like hot fruit salad with wet biscuit.

*shrug*
(Mr)Wibble
It would't surprise me if it wasn't cooked. Food advertising photos often bear no resemblance to the actual product

Rod
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 18.09.2008, 22:16
carmen julie's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Vevey, Canton du Vaud
Posts: 58
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
carmen julie has no particular reputation at present
Re: Apple Pie and Cooking Apples

Braeburn apples are the apples used here for tarts, desserts etc.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 18.09.2008, 22:34
dmk's Avatar
dmk dmk is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Zurich
Posts: 77
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 22 Times in 19 Posts
dmk has earned some respectdmk has earned some respect
Re: Apple Pie and Cooking Apples

I made this apple dessert recipe for New Year's eve dinner last year when we had a few friends over and it was out of this world (I added cinnamon to the apples mixture and even cheated and used pre-made dough to make it quicker.)

http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/m...ipe/index.html

Was made particularly yummy with this added touch drizzled over the top:

http://www.elise.com/recipes/archive...amel_sauce.php

Beware - this caramel sauce is addictive!
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank dmk for this useful post:
  #17  
Old 19.09.2008, 08:50
Mrs. Doolittle's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: near Baden
Posts: 3,694
Groaned at 69 Times in 53 Posts
Thanked 2,819 Times in 1,373 Posts
Mrs. Doolittle has a reputation beyond reputeMrs. Doolittle has a reputation beyond reputeMrs. Doolittle has a reputation beyond reputeMrs. Doolittle has a reputation beyond reputeMrs. Doolittle has a reputation beyond reputeMrs. Doolittle has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Apple Pie and Cooking Apples

Quote:
View Post
I'm not trying to cause trouble...

but...

(IMMHO...)

That pie looks awful!

The fruit is hardly cooked, and look at all the liquid! The pastry on the bottom would be all soggy. Hmmm, maybe it doesn't have pastry on the bottom?!

It would be like hot fruit salad with wet biscuit.

*shrug*
(Mr)Wibble
The things my family loves the most are "recipes" handed down from my great grandmother, who never owned a measuring cup, and I watched her cook using a handful of this or that. Not very scientific but fortunately our hands are about the same size. The finished product would likely not qualify for any photo shoot but well, the taste, this is something else. I have an old recipe for a deep dish apple cake using apples. I must say that I have chosen apples that are on the sweet side (Gala, for example) and I also like to use larger apples as they are easier to peel and slice better for the base of the cake. Once baked the apples are soft.
I never bake with berries, just apples or bananas.

Good luck with your baking. I might put a dusting of powdered sugar on top....hides any imperfections
__________________
As we are moving, items for sale are posted here.

Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 22.09.2008, 13:46
Sandgrounder's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: ZH
Posts: 5,767
Groaned at 43 Times in 37 Posts
Thanked 6,668 Times in 2,851 Posts
Sandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Apple Pie and Cooking Apples

Just had a look in Coop and they are now stocking Cox's Orange Pippin apples and, having bitten into one and having to eat it with one eye closed and my face wrinkled up, I can safely say they would be great as a cooking apple...

Delicious, though, in a kind of "extreme apple-eating" sport.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank Sandgrounder for this useful post:
  #19  
Old 22.09.2008, 13:51
möpp's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Zurich
Posts: 1,206
Groaned at 3 Times in 3 Posts
Thanked 991 Times in 521 Posts
möpp has a reputation beyond reputemöpp has a reputation beyond reputemöpp has a reputation beyond reputemöpp has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Apple Pie and Cooking Apples

Made an apple and blackberry crumble over the weekend with Braeburns. Extremely good
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 22.09.2008, 16:08
swissotter's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: singaporeotter
Posts: 1,760
Groaned at 7 Times in 7 Posts
Thanked 1,844 Times in 934 Posts
swissotter has a reputation beyond reputeswissotter has a reputation beyond reputeswissotter has a reputation beyond reputeswissotter has a reputation beyond reputeswissotter has a reputation beyond reputeswissotter has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Apple Pie and Cooking Apples

i also made an apple pie (more like an apple tart) on the weekend



sorry, i was so proud of it i wanted to put a pic here!
recipe is basically: normal shortcrust pastry
sprinkle some ground hazlenuts on the bottom (to stop pastry from being soggy)
peel, core and slice apples
arrange and bake! (180 c till brown, around 30 mins)
i then made a glaze from melting some apple gelee (from store)
and brush on when pie is still warm
and that's it! so easy - eat with creme fraiche/cream or vanilla ice cream

(i forgot to tell you where i live the farmer leaves apples outside for us to buy)
__________________
there are so many people out there who will tell you that you can't.what you've got to do is turn around and say "WATCH ME!".
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
apple pie, cooking apples


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The 2nd Pie Shop Ploughmans Lunch grumpygrapefruit Commercial events 46 25.09.2008 16:54
Pie & Cheese Ploughman's Lunch at the Pie Shop grumpygrapefruit Commercial events 25 25.08.2008 14:58
US Obama Party at Pie Shop girouxj13 Commercial 0 18.08.2008 11:23
Anyone know where to get a Steak and Cheese Pie? Allennz Daily life 42 30.07.2008 21:31


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 19:39.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0