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Gas is better, convenience + flavour 7 11.29%
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Barbeque season approaching .....

I am going to buy a BBQ soon.
Been shopping around.
Some nice units - and there will be a huge selection in Zug soon with the big trade fair coing up.
I've always used charcoal except at my last place in England where I tried gas.
The main problem I had was that the heat was actually less controllable: the minimum gas setting produced toomuch heat.
The big question is, what is best: gas or charcoal?
Apparently (so I'm told by a reliable source) around 90% of BBQs sold in CH are gas BBQs.
Is this just the convenience factor, or does gas give as good a flavour as charcoal.
So, in the interests of any of us about to make the big purchase, what do you think?
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Your poll should state, "charcoal is better but gas keeps peace with the neighbors". Especially when you live on the ground floor..
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Re: Barbeque season approaching .....

Charcoal!

Wikipedia reference-linkBarbecue

Don't forget the 10 Commandments of BBQ


1. Thou shalt not cook when you’re cold

Always bring meat back to room temperature so it cooks evenly


2. Thou shall rest after barbecueing

You can rest later, but a steak needs a few minutes somewhere warm for the juices to settle back in the fibres of the meat- longer for roasts


3. Thou shalt not torture the steaks

Turn your steak once, not twice and certainly not twenty times if you want a nice caramelised crust on it

4. Thou shalt not poke the sausages

Spearing the sausages not only dries them out, but lets the fat onto the naked flame so they turn to charcoal


5. Thou shalt clean the hotplate

Just because the hotplate gets very hot, it doesn’t mean that the layer of grease, insects and worse from your last barbie will disappear


6. Thou shalt not poison the guests

Don’t put cooked meat back on the plate that it came to the barbecue on raw; the same applies to putting uncooked leftover marinade on cooked meat


7. Thou shalt eat wonderful food

Just because it’s ‘only a barbecue’ is not an excuse to eat third rate produce- buy the best you can afford and enjoy its quality


8. Thou shalt not feed fat to the char grill

Cooking fatty meats like chops on the grill makes sense because the fat runs out , but it catches fire and incinerates the meat- cook your chops on the hotplate first and finish them on the char grill


9. Thou shalt think bigger than steaks and bangers

Try dishes from around the world and have a go at slow cooking, dry rubs and smoking


10. Thou shalt enjoy yourself

What else could you do at an Aussie barbie?
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Re: Barbeque season approaching .....

Some brilliant advice from you, as usual, JP!
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Re: Barbeque season approaching .....

The best barbecue I ever enjoyed was cooked over the burning remnants of the sofa from the living room of the house in which I dwelt at the time.

There were the occasional blue jets coming from randomly hammered nails throughout the frame, and we were careful to save the foam cushions for fiery experimentation at a later date, but the fire was hot, yellow and perfectly adequate to cook frozen sausages over.

Later in the evening, we entertained ourselves by tying plastic carrier bags to the washing line and setting fire to them. They made a pleasing zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzip sound as they melted and dripped onto the paving slabs below, but they didn't smell very nice, and we got the impression that the neighbours weren't too impressed.

Do you have any furniture you feel like burning?
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The best barbecue I ever enjoyed was cooked over the burning remnants of the sofa from the living room of the house in which I dwelt at the time.

There were the occasional blue jets coming from randomly hammered nails throughout the frame, and we were careful to save the foam cushions for fiery experimentation at a later date, but the fire was hot, yellow and perfectly adequate to cook frozen sausages over.

Later in the evening, we entertained ourselves by tying plastic carrier bags to the washing line and setting fire to them. They made a pleasing zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzip sound as they melted and dripped onto the paving slabs below, but they didn't smell very nice, and we got the impression that the neighbours weren't too impressed.

Do you have any furniture you feel like burning?
This sounds quite disturbing, DB, like the sort of thing Hannibal Lectur would say....
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This sounds quite disturbing, DB, like the sort of thing Hannibal Lectur would say....
I'm pretty sure the sausages were made of pig, not people.
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The best barbecue I ever enjoyed was cooked over the burning remnants of the sofa..
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Kin ye put anotha telly on the barby pleaz..?


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Re: Barbeque season approaching .....

I personally liked the Piri Piri sauced BBQ Chicken over charcoal whereas my other half prefers Thai marinade over gas.


Charcoal chicken with piri piri sauce
Portuguese Piri Piri Sauce

4 chilli peppers, cleaned and finely chopped juice of one Lemon 3 cloves of garlic, minced one tablespoon of chopped fresh parsley, (optional) one tablespoon Paprika 4 tablespoons of Olive Oil 1 teaspoon Salt Remove stems and seeds from peppers - take the necessary precautions when handling hot peppers.

Grind and mix all ingredients to a fine paste by hand or use a blender or food processor. If you want to go hotter add ground cayenne pepper of pepper flakes to taste. Cook in a hot frying-pan for a few minutes.

Store in a sterilized jar in the refrigerator. The flavour will develop over the following week.

SBS does it slightly different here ( video included )
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Many years ago I worked in a mobile classroom, right on the school's perimeter, on the other side of the playground.

One fine evening, some nasty little pinch-faced scrote decided it would be amusing to throw a firework into my classroom. It landed in the cloakroom, smouldered for a few minutes until it had burnt a hole through the carpet and the wooden floor, then, with the sudden inflow of air, exploded through the entire building.

All the children's work was destroyed, nearly all of my resources were ruined - mainly by smoke, although there was a good collection of wrinkly black paper on my desk - and all the tables and chairs were left as sad little charred skeletons.

The most impressive thing, however, was the television - which had melted. It looked like a big drippy Dali painting of a crappy old telly. I must confess to having been quite impressed with the state of the glass tube.

The second most impressive thing was the state of the sodding-fish-tanks. The sodding-fish-tanks were these godawful craft creations that had taken about three weeks longer than their projected two afternoons to make, and which consisted of an old cardboard box with bit of old grass at the bottom to look like water weeds, and a few sorry looking paper fish hanging down to make the whole miserable item look a bit like an aquarium. You know, to take home to mum and dad, who'd be delighted to put such a thing on their fireplace. These were the sodding-fish-tanks, as they had gradually become known in my planning sheets.

Anyway, these sodding-fish-tanks, which I'd have burned on a bonfire myself had I thought of it before the local chavs did, these sodding-fish-tanks, which were made of paper and cardboard and black cotton and various other admirably flammable materials, these sodding-fish-tanks, which had sat in the middle of a raging inferno for three hours or more, an inferno that had managed to melt a television set, these sodding-fish-tanks were intact. Smoke stained and soggy from the fireman's hoses, to be sure. But dreadfully, horribly intact.

Sodding things.

I burnt them myself a few days later.
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Many years ago I worked in a mobile classroom, right on the school's perimeter, on the other side of the playground.

One fine evening, some nasty little pinch-faced scrote decided it would be amusing to throw a firework into my classroom. It landed in the cloakroom, smouldered for a few minutes until it had burnt a hole through the carpet and the wooden floor, then, with the sudden inflow of air, exploded through the entire building.

All the children's work was destroyed, nearly all of my resources were ruined - mainly by smoke, although there was a good collection of wrinkly black paper on my desk - and all the tables and chairs were left as sad little charred skeletons.

The most impressive thing, however, was the television - which had melted. It looked like a big drippy Dali painting of a crappy old telly. I must confess to having been quite impressed with the state of the glass tube.

The second most impressive thing was the state of the sodding-fish-tanks. The sodding-fish-tanks were these godawful craft creations that had taken about three weeks longer than their projected two afternoons to make, and which consisted of an old cardboard box with bit of old grass at the bottom to look like water weeds, and a few sorry looking paper fish hanging down to make the whole miserable item look a bit like an aquarium. You know, to take home to mum and dad, who'd be delighted to put such a thing on their fireplace. These were the sodding-fish-tanks, as they had gradually become known in my planning sheets.

Anyway, these sodding-fish-tanks, which I'd have burned on a bonfire myself had I thought of it before the local chavs did, these sodding-fish-tanks, which were made of paper and cardboard and black cotton and various other admirably flammable materials, these sodding-fish-tanks, which had sat in the middle of a raging inferno for three hours or more, an inferno that had managed to melt a television set, these sodding-fish-tanks were intact. Smoke stained and soggy from the fireman's hoses, to be sure. But dreadfully, horribly intact.

Sodding things.

I burnt them myself a few days later.
BBQ fish, excellent, arctic charr I hope
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Long pig, maybe?

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Re: Barbeque season approaching .....

Anyone said BBQ=grill=braai. Nothing beats braai in the wild coast of Kwazulu Natal in summer time made on the radiator of overheating bakkie. No need for charcoal just boerwors with coke and klippies
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Anyone said BBQ=grill=braai. Nothing beats braai in the wild coast of Kwazulu Natal in summer time made on the radiator of overheating bakkie. No need for charcoal just boerwors with coke and klippies
Yes, Braai was mentioned in the Wiki link found in my first post and now here. Actually, Piri Piri is also African - Angola / Mozambique to be precise

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yep, BBQ season approaches .... ....

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Re: Barbeque season approaching .....

Aww, as that from facesinplaces.com? I love that website!

I wish my dad had seen those ten BBQ commandments. The only one he didn't do the complete opposite of is the one about putting cooked meat back on the raw meat plate, and I'm sure that was only because my mum would bring him out a clean one to use instead.

It was only in my teens that I realised BBQs didn't mean burnt snags, overcooked steaks and frozen burgers.
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I am not sure - this was given by a colleague when organising a BBQ for the local Rotaract Club in Brissy. Came in handy
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Re: Barbeque season approaching .....

We have gone back to having a real barbeque again, for some reason the gas grill wasn't a hit in my family so we got rid of it. Food tastes better cooked over charcoal, using gas gave vegetables a nasty gassy taste. There is of course, with real open fires, the entertainment value that most blokes seem to need in the bbq season, you know the flames shooting out of the top of the grill, not to mention the danger element if you squirt some of that special fire accelerant liquid on the top and the smoke that is really popular with the neighbours. I am quite looking forward to it now.
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i just had to share it with all of you.

This is by far the weirdest usb accessory that I've seen.

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