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Re: Special swiss alcohol [Absinthe]

I buy Kübler absinthe (from Val-de-Travers — reputed to be the birthplace of the stuff). It's 53% alcohol, and is clear until the ice water is added, when it takes on a pale milky green color. According to Kübler, no artificial coloring is added, which makes sense — otherwise it would not be clear when poured from the bottle.
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Later I have learned that you can literally die from drinking too much.
You can die from drinking too much water, as UK clubbers will testify to.
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Re: Special swiss alcohol [Absinthe]

Absinthe here is the real thing... and no, it will not make you blind. There are tons of different ones, I personally prefer the ones less sweet...

You will not find it at Migros (no alcohol there) nor at Coop. I believe Denner carry one - but honestly, do yourself a favour and try to get your hands on an artisanal one...
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Is there a real absyinthe home ?

Its great stuff !! the green fairy... poured over sugar cubes in silver holders.. ice cold water.... it is quite magical. i was wondering and still am, is it special or just the stigma or alcohol content that gave it a bad name.

Yup.. i hope no one wants to drink too much , its true tho.

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Re: Special swiss alcohol [Absinthe]

Do be careful when experimenting with the real deal (or at least don't drink it in industrial quantities)! I had too much one night in Portugal, in a bar run by an eccentric French couple, many moons ago when I was about 20. Not sure what brand the stuff was but it came from under the counter and was never on display. Nevermind hallucinations, it was the one and only time I've ever slept walked. I woke up the next morning in my hotel room with a very painful right foot and zero memory of the latter part of the previous evening. I checked and the foot was cut and my leg bruised, I followed a trail of blood across the stone floor and came to the awful realisation that the trail led outside my room. I was completely naked. I got dressed and investigated further and found a trail of blood spots down the corridor and down the marble stairs where the trail ended. I couldn't remember a thing about it. I still do not know exactly what happened but presume I went sleep walking naked through the hotel, fell down the stairs and somehow made it back to my room.

After that I've not bothered with absinthe!

Strangely though, there was no headache.
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Old 21.12.2012, 09:38
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Re: Special swiss alcohol [Absinthe]

In Zurich, this guy sells great quality absinthe - he was recommended to me by people who know their absinthe, and I was never disappointed. Otherwise, the best absinthe I've ever had in my life was from the Val de Travers, courtesy of one of our awesome members (paging Odile). I always wanted to visit the area but never did, it is on my absolute to-do list if/when I am back in the country.

On the topic of drinking the stuff, I had my stomach upside down only the day after the very first time I drank it, and that I think is more attributable to my inexperience than to the absinthe itself (I drank 2 glasses very fast and within a short time span because it tasted soooo good, instead of savoring it sip by sip like it should be done). Other than that, no issues - ok there was that other time when I thought it was a good idea to have a glass of Captain Morgan after 3 of absinthe (savored sip by sip), but again, more my fault than the absinthe's
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Old 21.12.2012, 09:57
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Is there a real absyinthe home ?

Its great stuff !! the green fairy... poured over sugar cubes in silver holders.. ice cold water.... it is quite magical. i was wondering and still am, is it special or just the stigma or alcohol content that gave it a bad name.

Yup.. i hope no one wants to drink too much , its true tho.
The first question makes no sense. Home? As in where it's from?

There isn't anything chemically "special" about absinth, It was used as a convenient scapegoat at the time, rather than own up to the reality of bar flys not wanting to go home and prevalent mental illness.

As far as I understand there aren't actually any documented cases of hallucinations (beyond that of any other alcohol, that is) or any of the other supposed side effects.

Additionally, though I do actually like the stuff, I've been told that the drink is for only the most hard-core, desperate alcoholics - and that it really isn't a cool thing to order, in spite of tourists' impression.
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There isn't anything chemically "special" about absinth,
Well, apart from the wormwood content and the resulting thujone content.

It's true that this is no longer thought to be harmful in the quantities present, and indeed its supposed hallucinogenic qualities have also been largely dismissed, but it is still an important part of the drink.
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Is Absinthe in Switzerland "real" Absinthe or just an anise-tasting liquor?

That is, is it really the "green fairy" and made from madness-inducing (and hallucination-inducing) wormwood? I know different countries have different rules. In a few parts of Eastern Europe, you can get the 'real' stuff. The States recently legalized non-wormwood absinthe.

I'd love to find out the answer!
If properly distilled, the wormwood is reduced to just that special note in the taste. It's halocigenic properties shouldn't survive the destination. Or you'd be stone drunk and unconscious long before you could drink enough for the wormwood to become anywhere near critical.

What the problem was back in Van Gogh's day, was that there was a lot of counterfeit Absinthe in circulation, which wasn't distilled. To cut corners backstreet producers would soak the wormwood, anis and the other herbs in cheap grain or potato alcohol, producing stuff that tasted much the same but that was infinitely more poisonous. The difficulties in telling the two apart is what finally got the stuff banned.

Only that was counter-productive as the ban put the serious producers out of business but kept the bootleggers going. The present situation is far more sensible.
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Old 21.12.2012, 10:19
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I once saw a guy in college down one single shot of pure grain alcohol; the bottle said 95% proof. He (no joking) puked his guts out for two or three hours, to the point where we ended up calling an ambulance. He was sick for three days after the "episode".

Later I have learned that you can literally die from drinking too much.
That means it must have had 5% water.

I wouldn't touch the stuff.

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I buy Kübler absinthe (from Val-de-Travers — reputed to be the birthplace of the stuff). It's 53% alcohol, and is clear until the ice water is added, when it takes on a pale milky green color. According to Kübler, no artificial coloring is added, which makes sense — otherwise it would not be clear when poured from the bottle.
An excellent choice. Living in absinthe country I know most of the distillers well and they all produce excellent products. All quite distinctive from each other. Have a look at the website

www.absinthe-interprofession.ch

La Clandestine by Claude Bugnon is the most sold in the US and UK, as Claude has a Agent in the UK that promotes his products. Look up La Clandestine on FB.

How about coming to visit the area for the next Fete de l'Absinthe in June?
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You might find this site will give you the answer. Mind you, seeing as how there is a brand that is 82% proof, I think it won't matter a jot whether is has madness inducing Wormwood or not.
Holy Toledo, 82%,,, that would just blow my my head off.
82 proof is not so bad it's 41% alcohol... I had a bottle of Wild Turkey 101 Rye Whiskey, 50.5% abv (101 Proof)... for me a must to sip it... no big swigs and gulps
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I once saw a guy in college down one single shot of pure grain alcohol; the bottle said 95% proof. He (no joking) puked his guts out for two or three hours, to the point where we ended up calling an ambulance. He was sick for three days after the "episode".

Later I have learned that you can literally die from drinking too much.
If you are talking about grain alcohol... like Everclear (what I drank in collage... essential ingredient for Spoli) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everclear_(alcohol)
It's 190 proof, 95% Alcohol, 95 proof is only 47.5% alcohol.
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82 proof is not so bad it's 41% alcohol... I had a bottle of Wild Turkey 101 Rye Whiskey, 50.5% abv (101 Proof)... for me a must to sip it... no big swigs and gulps
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It's 190 proof, 95% Alcohol, 95 proof is only 47.5% alcohol.
Be aware that those proof measures are US units only. UK proof, which is what you're more likely to see (if it's quoted at all, rather than simply using the %age) on anything produced historically in Europe is not quite as high a number - 50% abv is 87.5 degrees proof, for example.
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Be aware that those proof measures are US units only. UK proof, which is what you're more likely to see (if it's quoted at all, rather than simply using the %age) on anything produced historically in Europe is not quite as high a number - 50% abv is 87.5 degrees proof, for example.
Thanks, I haven't paid much attention...
I looked it up, and found a wiki page on it... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_by_volume)

What does this mean? part in bold, italics and underlined.
Do they still multiply by 1.75 and call it ABV?

Another way of specifying the amount of alcohol is alcohol proof, which in the United States is twice the alcohol-by-volume number,[7][8] while in the United Kingdom it is 1.75 times the number (expressed as a percentage). For example, 40% abv is 80 proof in the US and 70 proof in the UK. However, since 1980, alcoholic proof in the UK has been replaced by abv as a measure of alcohol content.
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What does this mean? part in bold, italics and underlined.
Do they still multiply by 1.75 and call it ABV?

Another way of specifying the amount of alcohol is alcohol proof, which in the United States is twice the alcohol-by-volume number,[7][8] while in the United Kingdom it is 1.75 times the number (expressed as a percentage). For example, 40% abv is 80 proof in the US and 70 proof in the UK. However, since 1980, alcoholic proof in the UK has been replaced by abv as a measure of alcohol content.
I don't think anyone actually uses any of the old tests to measure 'proof', which used to be based on the minimum alcohol strength that, when mixed with gunpowder, would still ignite. Anything less than that would just wet it too much. This was (some centuries ago) the 'proof', used by Customs and Excise, that your spirit was above that level, and hence due to have duty paid on it. And thence the origin of the term.

Modern measurements give the strength in %age terms in the first place.
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I don't think anyone actually uses any of the old tests to measure 'proof', which used to be based on the minimum alcohol strength that, when mixed with gunpowder, would still ignite. Anything less than that would just wet it too much. This was (some centuries ago) the 'proof', used by Customs and Excise, that your spirit was above that level, and hence due to have duty paid on it. And thence the origin of the term.

Modern measurements give the strength in %age terms in the first place.
Totally Cool!!!! I wish I was in the states to experiment with gun powder

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Re: Special swiss alcohol [Absinthe]

The 16th Fete de l'Absinthe will take place in Boveresse, Val-de-Travers, on the 15th of June. If you need any more info, advice about anything- and possibly organise an EF event (+ info or help with accomodation, etc) don't hesitate. Boveresse (home of Martin absinthe) is just 1 km away from the railway station in Motiers, another great haunt for absinthe distillers (Bovet, Fornoni, Bezançon) and of course Mauler Champagne- so easy to reach on foot (best if you are sampling absinthe's all day ).
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You can find Absinth in Europe as well. I never drunk it in Switzerland but had a little of a glass in Spain.... way to strong for me
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That means it must have had 5% water.

I wouldn't touch the stuff.

Actually, it's no big deal, just twice as strong as good vodka.

I buy it in Italy to soak fruits and chiles in, which reminds me, I should check how the mirabelles are doing.

Anyway, best Absinthe I've has was at a friend in Neuchatel's, back when it was still illegal. The commercial stuff can't come close.

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