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Re: Swiss Beer Appreciation Thread

Schutzengarten and Ittinger are both excellent beers
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Schutzengarten and Ittinger are both excellent beers
I've seen their logo outside cafes but not knowing them didn't even know it was beer. So never tried it (that I know of). Will do










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Old 30.10.2010, 22:57
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Re: Swiss Beer Appreciation Thread

Wholeheartedly recommend the beer they microbrew and serve at Linde Oberstrass in Zurich (
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=zueric...77.15,,0,-2.79). Food is good too, currently doing an autumn wild menu

Can't find pics of their beers but the dunkel was almost black

Here's their brewery
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Re: Swiss Beer Appreciation Thread

Ha Ha Ha!! tonight on Swiss TV there was an advert for Feldschlossen ALCOHOL FREE!!! wtf!!
Who in their right minds would drink that p~ss. My God I'm speechless.....
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Re: Swiss Beer Appreciation Thread

Now we know who watches Swiss TV
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yeah right. UK TV is bust. Am suicidal watching Swiss TV.

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Wholeheartedly recommend the beer they microbrew and serve at Linde Oberstrass in Zurich (
Only went there once after they took over the place from the Back and Brau which had some lovely unfiltered lagers and a pils. After the takeover the beer went downhill fast but may have improved since. Will give it another try soon .
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Ha Ha Ha!! tonight on Swiss TV there was an advert for Feldschlossen ALCOHOL FREE!!! wtf!!
Who in their right minds would drink that p~ss. My God I'm speechless.....
Nobody does... but Feldschlosschen get their brand on the telly, despite the ban on advertising alcohol there.

Crafty buggers, eh?
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Old 31.10.2010, 02:24
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Re: Swiss Beer Appreciation Thread

If you really want to get to know the best Swiss beers, try the winners mentioned here http://www.biertage.ch/praem_2009.htm

The Burgdorfer brewery is currently rated the best.

Better still, go and taste them at the next event (28-30 April 2011)

http://www.biertage.ch/
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Re: Swiss Beer Appreciation Thread

Well, glad to see this thread, but a bit more detail would be appreciated ... I mean, if you mention that a particular brewer is good, could you please mention the specific beers you've tried?
For example, I'd agree with a few posters on here that Eichhof beers are good in general ... but there are some shining lights and at least one glaring evil.

So ... I've been doing some research for friends, although recently have let it slide. I use what I call "The VB Scale", rating each beer on how it compares to VB - a beer that any Australian over the age of 14 has tried at least once. It's a good standard, as it's hard to find a beer that is worse ... even when it's free, you think twice about drinking it!
I've included the 'source' in my ratings, as that does greatly alter the taste ... oh, and this is not every Swiss beer I've had, either, some I couldn't recall the precise variety, or forgot to record the details at the time and will have to try them again ...

Rappi Bier Factory Big Black Bier (bottle) - 8.5 VBs
Like it - was 'warned' by a few people that it was very strong (it is), and that they usually share one for safety (?? Not that strong!). Lovely flavour, so don't worry about the "big alcohol content = low taste" problem some people have told me about ... goes very well with cheese, curried pickled eggs and bread.

Wädi Bräu Dunkel (tap) - 7.1 VBs
Very nice drink, made even better by the two facts that the boss paid for it and it was consumed after taking a dozen kids to Basel & back to Zürich for the Worlddidac. Would definitely have had another one, but had to get home to the family ... and work the next day ...

Feldschlösschen Dunkle Perle (bottle) - 6.5 VBs
A lovely dark beer ... smoother than other dark Swiss beers I've tried.

Ittinger Klosterbrau (bottle) - 6.4 VBs
Nicest bottled Klosterbrau I've tried in Switzerland ... moderately bitter, with a slightly sweet aftertaste.

Eichhof Hubertus (bottle) - 6.4 VBs
A nice dark beer, nice to have in the fridge at home.

Eichhof Spiess (bottle) - 6.2 VBs
Surprisingly good, given the colour and name (it's a very pale yellow ...). Brewed with corn, which adds a nice twist to the taste.

Appenzeller Schwarzer Kristall (bottle) - 6 VBs
A nice dark, not as smooth as I generally like ...

Eichhof Barbara (bottle) - 5.8 VBs.
Perhaps it was the company that made this so nice (EF Wednesday night drinks, in the tent that was not holding up well under the downpour - sheets of rain coming through half a metre before the bar!). Still, I don't mind drinking it ... a "strong beer", apparently ...

Feldschlösschen Hopfenperle (bottle) - 5.5 VBs
A great little beer you can pick up down the shops ...

Turbinenbrau (think it was Start, not sure) (tap) - 5 VBs
Nice drink, maybe tastes even nicer as I drink it after underwater hockey ...

Hürlimann Hammer (bottle) - 4 VBs
Surprisingly good given the connotations conjured by the name!

Feldschlösschen Original (mini-keg) - 3.8 VBs
Must be the method of 'delivery', as I haven't tried it in cans or on tap ... or it could be altitude-induced delirium, as it was consumed at the top of a mountain ... Still, drinkable and nothing unusual.

Eichhof Klosterbrau (bottle) - 3.5 VBs
You can drink it, but not in the same class as Ittinger's

Eichhof Lager (tap) - 2.5 VBs.
You can drink it, but nothing special.

Eichhof Pony (bottle) - 0.11 VBs
The source is pictured on the label, I'm sure - only reason it rates above the Denner Export Bier is that the bottle looks so nice ...

Denner Export Bier (can) - 0.1 VBs.
Don't touch it - two sips (the second to confirm that it was as bad as the first!), two cans poured down the drain ... and even then I felt guilty of a crime in even opening it ...

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yeah right. UK TV is bust. Am suicidal watching Swiss TV.
Have you paid your Billag?

btw, a note for those who have trouble drinking their beer before it gets warm: you could just get a "stange" ...
Oh, and clearly many of you will disagree with some of my ratings ... but seriously, do NOT touch anything rated less than 1 VB, or you will regret it!!!
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Old 31.10.2010, 09:00
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I use what I call "The VB Scale", rating each beer on how it compares to VB - a beer that any Australian over the age of 14 has tried at least once. It's a good standard, as it's hard to find a beer that is worse ... even when it's free, you think twice about drinking it!
Pure genius. I think maybe it needs a few tweeks here and there to be beocme a true international standard.

In the UK where we also have some absolute shockers (anything with "smooth" in the name for example) VB would probably score -2 or 3 million even against the worst bitter in our history "Watney's Red Barrel".

The scale allows for comparison across styles and even types. Is there a conversion table in the pipeline?

Still, you have set the standard so:

Farmer Beer (Landi, brewed in Germany so not really Swiss I spose): 5.5 VBs - very drinkable proper pils at a ridiculously low price.
Einsiedler Biere - Rosengarten Brewey Einsiedeln: 5 VBs - thirst quesnching lager best on tap but nice from the bottle too.
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Pure genius. I think maybe it needs a few tweeks here and there to be beocme a true international standard.

In the UK where we also have some absolute shockers (anything with "smooth" in the name for example) VB would probably score -2 or 3 million even against the worst bitter in our history "Watney's Red Barrel".

The scale allows for comparison across styles and even types. Is there a conversion table in the pipeline?

Still, you have set the standard so:
Hmm, conversion table ... do you mean to find a 'local standard' for each country, then rank these standards so people from different countries can truly appreciate the relative quality of each beer? Would need far more research than I am able to do at the moment, including a lot of international travel ... I need some assistants to get that running!

Also, didn't mean to imply a 'standard' for other people ... as I said, it's just the standard I use, and it would vary based on individual tastes (eg, I prefer darker beers, so they tend to rank higher on my scale than they would for other people). Hmm, perhaps a 'base' lager, a 'base' ale, a 'base' stout (yes, I know stouts are ales - but they are a particular type of ale!). This is starting to get complicated ...
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Re: Swiss Beer Appreciation Thread

At the beginning of the month we had a guided tour at the Brauerei Baar and were offered a beer tasting afterwards. I don't drink beer but all the guests that did, loved the beer. What I particularly enjoyed was to listen to the whole history behind the Brauerei Baar, it's still a family run business. You can read more about it here
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Freddy Haldemann is a Network Informatic specialist, and he has been brewing for 12 years,
his brewery is open every Saturday afternoon, it's in a Swiss bunker.

http://www.brasserie-haldemann.ch/home

He usually has 5 or 6 different beers on tap. He also sells beer to take away in a 3 litre glass
jar. His customers are local hotels and restaurants, about 30 minutes west of Berne.

Chemin des Cygnes 51
1786 Sugiez ..........--> http://map.search.ch/d/jnky2iwy2.en....cea86e6cf15dc3
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A friend recently persuaded me to try the Coop Pr!x Garantie Lager Bier and, much to my annoyance, I quite liked it...So much for my supposed dislike for all things beer .
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A friend recently persuaded me to try the Coop Pr!x Garantie Lager Bier and, much to my annoyance, I quite liked it...So much for my supposed dislike for all things beer .
The Prix Garantie beer is quite good, and that for a sensational price. I however would like to mention the "National Beer of Schaffhausen"




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The Prix Garantie beer is quite good, and that for a sensational price. I however would like to mention the "National Beer of Schaffhausen"
Yes, I couldn't believe the low price when my friend told me and at first thought it was a joke! . . . Well, this is Switzerland after all.
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Re: Swiss Beer Appreciation Thread

THANK YOU! I've just moved (3 weeks ago) to Zurich from the US and am finding the beer situation rather hopeless as I'm a usually a porter or stout drinker ... you've given me much useful info. There's hope for good beer in ZH!
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You ought to get out more. There are plenty of good local and micro breweries. The problem is that many of the bars that pretend to be cool don't have them, but if you know whee to go you can get them. Ever tried Tschlin for example? If you like Appenzell you'll probably appreciate that too.

http://www.bieraria.ch/de/bieridee/warum/
As I said in an earlier post: Many here mentioned some microbreweries that sure will have great stuff. But the problem is availability. If I go to a "normal" pub, they won't have any of the good ones, but some generic stuff that either tastes like Heineken with some local badge on it.

On a side note: Lidl sells "Boxer", which I found not only cheap but good as well. (That was the "biere de fete", haven't tried the regular light and dark one they had as well).
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