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Capello Flounces Off....

The England manager resigns because.......not sure really? He thinks that somebody who is awaiting trial for racism is a good leader including leading the brother of the guy he allegedly abused, plus other black players?

Very very strange from him
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Won't be the first Italian to leave a sinking ship...
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The England manager resigns because.......not sure really? He thinks that somebody who is awaiting trial for racism is a good leader including leading the brother of the guy he allegedly abused, plus other black players?
Never guilty until proven.
A perfect example from only yesterday is Rednap "getting away with it"

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Never guilty until proven.
A perfect example from only yesterday is Rednap "getting away with it"
No, but with enough evidence for the CPS to believe that a trial is necessary, Rio plus the other black players may find it difficult to look up to Terry as a leader, don't you think?
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No, but with enough evidence for the CPS to believe that a trial is necessary, Rio plus the other black players may find it difficult to look up to Terry as a leader, don't you think?
Thats true, but after the Euros Terrys days are numbered.
I think it fair to say that Englands best performances of recent have been without him.
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Re: Capello Flounces Off....

The FA should have had a position on this.
When Woodgate and Bowyer were had up in court for assault a few years ago the FA said quite clearly that neither could be considered for an England place whilst facing a court enquiry.

The same should have applied in this case. They should have had this rule already in place and covered.

Capello is basically leaving I suspect because of the tabloid attacks, which were petty, pathetic and ridiculous. Like the "newspapers" themselves.
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The FA should have had a position on this.
When Woodgate and Bowyer were had up in court for assault a few years ago the FA said quite clearly that neither could be considered for an England place whilst facing a court enquiry.

The same should have applied in this case. They should have had this rule already in place and covered.

Capello is basically leaving I suspect because of the tabloid attacks, which were petty, pathetic and ridiculous. Like the "newspapers" themselves.
The problem certainly is embodied within the crass incompetence of the FA with its "old school" members and their "victorian" attitudes towards our great game.
They should replace them all with Germans! and then the problems would get dealt with, the next day!
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The FA should have had a position on this.
When Woodgate and Bowyer were had up in court for assault a few years ago the FA said quite clearly that neither could be considered for an England place whilst facing a court enquiry.

The same should have applied in this case. They should have had this rule already in place and covered.

Capello is basically leaving I suspect because of the tabloid attacks, which were petty, pathetic and ridiculous. Like the "newspapers" themselves.
The FA did have a position. That position(correctly) was that Terry could not be captain whilst subject to court proceedings for racist abuse. Capello did not agree with this. Well, tough, I don't agree with a lot of the things my bosses say. But he gets 6m a year, so can afford to walk away on a matter of principle.

Maybe the FA ought to have got Capello involved in the Terry decision in the first place. More likelyTerry should have done the right thing for once and stood down voluntarily. And even more likely, the judge who allowed Chelsea to dictate the date of the court proceedings to suit them should have told them to get lost.
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Old 09.02.2012, 10:41
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The FA should have had a position on this.
When Woodgate and Bowyer were had up in court for assault a few years ago the FA said quite clearly that neither could be considered for an England place whilst facing a court enquiry.

The same should have applied in this case. They should have had this rule already in place and covered.

Capello is basically leaving I suspect because of the tabloid attacks, which were petty, pathetic and ridiculous. Like the "newspapers" themselves.

But they never applied the rule consistently.

You're correct on Woodgate and Bowyer, then (I think) Gerrard was allowed to play when he was awaiting trial, and now Terry is eligible to play but not to be Captain. They should apply the same rule throughout
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Re: Capello Flounces Off....

Being a Spurs fan I am just devastated and hoping that 'Arry doesn't leave us until the end of the season but that doesn't fit with the Euros.

Maybe he could do the England job on a part-time basis...please!
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Re: Capello Flounces Off....

The Terry thing is a red herring.. It's all about a bunch of old duffers thinking they can hire a manager - who should never have been appointed in the first place - and then argue among themselves as to who gets to tell him what he can and cant do.. even when he's got more F**K Off money than the lot of them put together.

Utter bunch of useless, self important, self deluded, arrogant tosspots trying to control an over rated, over paid, arrogant oaf.

.... and .. breath...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...ein?intcmp=122

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...resign-regrets
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No, but with enough evidence for the CPS to believe that a trial is necessary, Rio plus the other black players may find it difficult to look up to Terry as a leader, don't you think?
Sorry - but the UK is "innocent until proven guilty". Terry is fighting the charge. If he was admiting his guilt that would be another matter.

Do you really think that the CPS wins all its cases?

The FA have hung Terry out to dry - I don't particularly like the guy, but do you think he'll get a fair trial now?

This is not a classroom situation, e.g. with a teacher being charged with abusing a child under his/her care. There is no reason by Terry should not continue to work and earn a living, and likewise he should continue in all his duties unless he is incapable of doing so (the potential topic of another thread, I'm sure).

On the actual charge - if Terry is to be made an example of, then I can imagine that there's many other players who should be in the dock with him. As I said, I don't particularly like the guy and he's messed up before, but I do think the FA is categorically wrong on this, and I respect Capello's stand against the FA for being the correct one on a point of principle.

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Sorry - but the UK is "innocent until proven guilty". Terry is fighting the charge. If he was admiting his guilt that would be another matter.

Do you really think that the CPS wins all its cases?
I agree, except that the England captaincy is an honour, not like the principle of "innocent til proven guilty" which is a basic human right.

For the CPS to decide there is enough evidence for the case means that they DO have evidence that he used words or gestures which could be capable of being interpreted as racial abuse as defined by the relevant law. The court case is merely to decide whether the words do meet that threshold in that context - but there is clearly evidence to demonstrate that what he did say could be viewed as racist.

So I agree that he needs to have his day in court before decided if there should be sanctions and penalties but NOT to allow him to continue in a position of responsibility, honour and example
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