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Woy Hodgson England Manager

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West Bromwich Albion have today granted permission for The FA to speak with Roy Hodgson regarding the position of England Manager.

This follows an approach from FA Chairman David Bernstein to West Bromwich Albion Chairman Jeremy Peace.

David Bernstein said: "I'm grateful to Jeremy and all at West Bromwich Albion for their co-operation in allowing us to approach Roy, who I have since spoken with.

"Roy is the only manager we have approached and we remain on course to make an appointment within the timescale we set-out soon after Fabio Capello's departure.

"Further conversations will now take place with Roy and my Club England colleagues before any further announcements can be made."
I quite like Woy and wonder why they haven't asked him before..he has managed abroad and in International tournaments before....also Rednapp must be crying into his large stack of brown paper envelopes, which is always entertaining. His twitch must have gone into overdrive this morning when he saw the news.

The papers seem to be saying that it is a surprise and the fans will be disappointed it isn't Rednapp...not sure who these fans are because everyone I know thinks Rednapp is a clueless muppet, and even his own club supporters were singing "Rednapp for England" at the weekend.
Not sure Woy will have much luck with England but he is about the best they could pick at the moment.
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Re: Woy Hodgson England Manager

I think this is a surpirising, yet quite shrewd, decision by the FA. Woy is excellent at getting the best out of mediocre teams; Switzerland, Fulham, WBA etc, so would be the ideal man for the England national team .
I'd rather have him than that bloody crook Redknapp any day.

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I think this is a surpirising, yet quite shrewd, decision by the FA. Woy is excellent at getting the best out of mediocre teams; Switzerland, Fulham, WBA etc, so would be the ideal man for the England national team .
I'd rather have him than that bloody crook Redknapp and day.
Good point Paddy!
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I'd rather have him than that bloody crook Redknapp any day.
I thought he was acquitted.. or is it a case of 'if there's smoke..."?
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I thought he was acquitted.. or is it a case of 'if there's smoke..."?
He was acquitted...but he still set up a bank account in the name of his dog - because he loved his dog...and based his entire defence on the fact that he is an idiot who can't write, read or use a phone.
So either he is guilty or he is handicapped from the neck up.

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He was acquitted...but he still set up a bank account in the name of his dog - because he loved his dog...and based his entire defence on the fact that he is an idiot who can't write, read or use a phone.
So either he is guilty or he is handicapped from the neck up.
Also an excellent attribute for becoming england manager .
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Re: Woy Hodgson England Manager

I'm surprised after the Liverpool performance but I think it is a good move. I thought Harry would get it, but I'm glad he hasn't. Still no definite decision yet so maybe it won't happen ...
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Re: Woy Hodgson England Manager

I would have thought Redknapp was the better choice considering where Spurs where when he took over and are now.

Hodgson seems a decent guy but his teams have never really lit the world on fire. Well organized but lacking real imagination (I know not a lot to spend either). Can not see England winning too much either way

Redknapps defense was that the money was a gift not employment income. Harry pleaded stupid, Mandaric said it was a gift and also why would he cheat on such an insignificant amount of tax (compared to the rest of Harrys compensation). Biggest crime was UK Inland Revenue spending 8million to bring the case. Cost v Benefit ridiculous.

Ive met Redknapp and approached him at a hotel in NJ. He was surprised to be recognized and quit friendly so maybe I'm biased in liking him (I'm an Arsenal fan btw) but he think he could get more out of the players.

Can only think the FA didn't like the stigma attached to the trial or can't agree compensation with Spurs.

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Re: Woy Hodgson England Manager

Wonderful Roy.

FA have bottled it again, and I feel sorry for Roy.

No one wants him, no one is excited by him, he has done nothing of note, and failed at his biggest jobs...miserably.

Was terrible at Inter, worse still at Liverpool, plays dire football. His best success was europa run with Fulham, which was admirable.

Same can be said for Harry in some respects. He has not achieved a lot in terms of cup success. But has managed to get every team to play good attacking football. He has transformed spurs to a great team, playing attacking football. At least the fans would get behind Harry.

This just makes it easier to sack the guy from the fall out of the Euros.
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Wonderful Roy.

FA have bottled it again, and I feel sorry for Roy.

No one wants him, no one is excited by him, he has done nothing of note, and failed at his biggest jobs...miserably.

Was terrible at Inter, worse still at Liverpool, plays dire football. His best success was europa run with Fulham, which was admirable.

Same can be said for Harry in some respects. He has not achieved a lot in terms of cup success. But has managed to get every team to play good attacking football. He has transformed spurs to a great team, playing attacking football. At least the fans would get behind Harry.

This just makes it easier to sack the guy from the fall out of the Euros.
Hang on I think you are believing the fawning tabloid press a little too much.

Roy has won 13 trophies...Rednapp has won only 1.

Roy has been runner up in the UEFA cup twice, with Fulham and with Inter

He has managed in loads of different countries successfully

Most importantly he has managed Switzerland in a world cup and taken them beyond the group stages... Switzerland were rated as the 3rd best international team in the world according to the admittedly rubbish FIFA World rankings.

He has done a pretty decent job with Fulham and West Brom, especially Fulham and won the Manager of the year award in 2010.

Liverpool were a mess when he took over and King Kenny has about the same record of results as Hodgson.

Rednapp on the other hand has won nothing, has done well with Tottenham team for half a season but since has lead them to having the worst form in the league along with Wolves.
Tactically he is a muppet and has even admitted so himself....actually it is quite easy to destroy Rednapps reputation. I think he is a reasonable manager who the press absolutely adore.

I am not excited by Roy but then I think that may be good. He is solid, his players like him and he doesn't seem to care what the press think, + he actually has the required experience.
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Re: Woy Hodgson England Manager

Apparently the FA did write a letter to Harry offering him an interview but for some reason he hasn't got back to them
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I think this is a surpirising, yet quite shrewd, decision by the FA. Woy is excellent at getting the best out of mediocre teams; Switzerland, Fulham, WBA etc, so would be the ideal man for the England national team .
I'd rather have him than that bloody crook Redknapp any day.
Aye but that requires the players, media and the match going fans to accept that they're inferior which let's be honest ain't gonna happen.
He refused to play Agger who is an excellent technical centre back and stuck with Carragher who is a massive hoofer. here's what Agger had to say about it:

"The manager has a philosophy that we're playing football further up the pitch and then you have to play a different kind of football at the back."
According to the Daily Express, Agger continued: "That's not my style. That's not the type of football player I am. I like to keep the ball on the ground. And I'm going to keep doing that. Whether he'll use me or not, time will tell.

I'm a footballer who keeps the ball on the floor. I'm here to play, not to unload

And to his training tactics at Fulham:

The method is simple: constant drills to increase awareness of responsibility, discipline and defensive duty. "People say that his sessions aren't always the most free-flowing because he is so meticulous in everything he does," said the former Fulham coach Dave Beasant.
"He probably spends more time preparing the team for what they have to do when they don't have the ball than what they need to do with it. Shape, discipline, knowing where you have to be positioned in relation to your team-mates: he will stop a practice game every couple of minutes to point out if people are out of position or not covering in the right way. It is stop-start, but thorough. You can see the influence his time in Serie A with Inter had on his style. He is a true scholar of football."
There is room for creation within his system, but those mavericks who do not buy into the workaholic structure are moved on. Jimmy Bullard, once this team's talisman, was shipped out to Hull midway through last season for £5m, with a fraction of that money reinvested on the journeyman Dickson Etuhu

And I'm sure the players like say Glen Johnson will also love being hung out to dry by their managers:

“He’s the England right-back and, if he plays like that, one would expect him to come back in when he’s fit. But then he’d have to play like the England right-back and up to now, to be quite frank, he’s not performed – very often at least – to the level I’d expect of him. You would have to ask him ‘do you think you’re playing like the best right-back in the country for your club?’ If he says yes, obviously we will have to agree to differ.”


And the fans will surely appreciate being patronised by him calling Andorra formidable (like he did Northampton)

I didn't want to turn this into a Hodgson rant. I think he could do a good job but I don't think the players will appreciate his style of training of his tactics and I also doubt the fans will appreciate his style of football and interviews and once he's under pressure he does snap at journalists
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Re: Woy Hodgson England Manager

Roy is easily the best and most economical english choice for the FA. The only issue is that the english media wanted redknapp as he is one of them so I think the knives will be out for Roy very quickly.
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Re: Woy Hodgson England Manager

I really want to hear one good reason why redknapp should be england manager apart from the fact that the english media wanted him. redknapp and his chairman levy are sharks, they would have taken the FA to the cleaners
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Hang on I think you are believing the fawning tabloid press a little too much.

Roy has won 13 trophies...Rednapp has won only 1.

Roy has been runner up in the UEFA cup twice, with Fulham and with Inter

He has managed in loads of different countries successfully

Most importantly he has managed Switzerland in a world cup and taken them beyond the group stages... Switzerland were rated as the 3rd best international team in the world according to the admittedly rubbish FIFA World rankings.

He has done a pretty decent job with Fulham and West Brom, especially Fulham and won the Manager of the year award in 2010.

Liverpool were a mess when he took over and King Kenny has about the same record of results as Hodgson.

Rednapp on the other hand has won nothing, has done well with Tottenham team for half a season but since has lead them to having the worst form in the league along with Wolves.
Tactically he is a muppet and has even admitted so himself....actually it is quite easy to destroy Rednapps reputation. I think he is a reasonable manager who the press absolutely adore.

I am not excited by Roy but then I think that may be good. He is solid, his players like him and he doesn't seem to care what the press think, + he actually has the required experience.
Roy has won what trophies? I respect him for gaining world experience, but he won trophies with estbalished teams in their domestic leagues. Its bit like people saying Pep was a great manager for Barcelona when my nan would have won the league with that team for the past few years.

I am not saying Roy is a bad manager, nor Redknapp fantastic. But I think what England need more than anything is a fan favourite, a motivator, and a manager who sets his teams up to play well and have a go.

Capello had a reputation as a tactician also, didnt he do well at the world cup.

I think most English accept we are poor. Accept we are unlikely to win anything in near future. But approaching a tournament like we did in the world cup we will not accept.

If we went into a tournament, with passion, and pride, and gave it a real go but lost in the semis or quarters we would be content. We represented.

What I suspect will happen now, much like Capello, is we will go out and play negatively. We will defend 11 men like all of Roys teams. We will work hard, be hard to beat, but never look like winning or trying to win, or nick a win from set piece etc. We shall still lose in the quarters or semis if we manage to qualify from the group, yet the fans will feel let down.

Both managers would likely end with the same result, but one would have support and be a joy to watch and be part of, the other will prolong the agony to the next appointment.
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Re: Woy Hodgson England Manager

Please can you tell me what harry redknapp has achieved in club football apart from a huge salary?
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Please can you tell me what harry redknapp has achieved in club football apart from a huge salary?

Likewise Roy? Roy is a mediocre club man. Doesnt do high level pressure.

And I do not need to hear about winning the league in Sweden or some rubbish. Something of note please.

Harry has been brought in for relegation battles and saved clubs from the drop, more than once.

Harry has had all of his teams perform for him, unlike Roy. All comment what a great man manager he is.

Harry has taken a relegation battling spurs to the champions league destroying teams like inter milan along the way. No coincidence the team stopped performing when they all thought he was leaving.

Harry has the backing of the team and the fans. Unlike Roy.
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Likewise Roy? Roy is a mediocre club man. Doesnt do high level pressure.

And I do not need to hear about winning the league in Sweden or some rubbish. Something of note please.

Harry has been brought in for relegation battles and saved clubs from the drop, more than once.

Harry has had all of his teams perform for him, unlike Roy. All comment what a great man manager he is.

Harry has taken a relegation battling spurs to the champions league destroying teams like inter milan along the way. No coincidence the team stopped performing when they all thought he was leaving.

Harry has the backing of the team and the fans. Unlike Roy.
The FA have been screwed financially by SGE and Capello, why get screwed again by cockney schyster redknapp

you were given a list of Roy's successes upthread, did you read them?

england are a mediocre team, Roy is good at managing small or mediocre teams, he's perfect for England

Redknapp hasn't got the backing of anyone but the media, he is one of them.

my only reservation about Roy is the media will be all out to nail him and get rid of him

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Re: Woy Hodgson England Manager

this is interesting:
http://www.zonalmarking.net/2012/05/...t-roy-hodgson/
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Re: Woy Hodgson England Manager

I am aware of them, they do no exicte, impress or have any relevance to the England job.

We have seen successful managers with trophy laden cv's mean f all.

England are a team of good inviduals who just cant seem to play together. They do not need a master tactician, they do not need someone who cant speak English, and they do not need someone whos win ratio is up there level peg with his loss ratio and plays 11 men behind the ball always, with an ethos of dont try and win, just try not to lose, and has won the league with teams that historically always do win the leauge or therebaouts in Z list european leagues.

Well given several members of the actual team back Harry and none have backed Roy embarrassingly enough, except a tame Gerrard interview, then I think the team has spoken.
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