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The Pietersen Saga

How is this going to end? I think, with a lot of egg on the face of ECB
http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/content/story/787889.html

My sympathies are with the English team which is much the poorer for the demise of their best batsman since, similarly adventurous, Gower (may be KP was just a wee bit better than Gower).

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PS: When the Indian team was having issues between Ganguly and Chappel, Ganguly was dropped and eventually it was Chappel who was dumped while Ganguly made a glorious comeback.
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Old 08.10.2014, 13:23
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Re: The Pietersen Saga

Whatever the problem was the outcome is the premature loss of one of England's greatest batsmen of all time. Tragedy in my view. His record stands for itself.


ps. no tossers talking about South Africa connections thank you very much.
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Re: The Pietersen Saga

interesting to read the review of his biography
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/201...pietersen-book
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Re: The Pietersen Saga

Good point this: Like Grace, Pietersen has done more than any of his England contemporaries to increase cricket's broader appeal and to enrich the game.
More here: http://www.espncricinfo.com/blogs/co...ry/789629.html

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Re: The Pietersen Saga

Forget the politics and play the players in form, KP should be in England set up.
A.Srauss- not a good start!
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Re: The Pietersen Saga

The ECB are a laughing stock, you win by selecting and playing your best players even if there is a little bit of tension in the dressing room. A player like KP is the difference between a winning side and a losing side.
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Re: The Pietersen Saga

I don't blame them after his book but Strauss is taking out a personal vendetta on KP.

Sad state of affairs.
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Re: The Pietersen Saga

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The ECB are a laughing stock, you win by selecting and playing your best players even if there is a little bit of tension in the dressing room.
Rubbish. You win by selecting the best team of players. If you can't remember, for example, some English teams of the past two or three decades where dressing-room discord and factional in-fighting made the whole significantly less than the sum of its parts you must have a very short or selective memory indeed.
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Re: The Pietersen Saga

Special players need special treatment. Despite all the alleged problems KP might have been creating in the dressing room, he has 'that' thing in him. A Warne or a SRT or a Lara should never ever be put aside. What ECB lacks is a good man manager. Somebody who can isolate individuals from the issues in hand.
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Re: The Pietersen Saga

What they lacked after the Ashes was a scapegoat and they found one in KP.
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Re: The Pietersen Saga

Bet the Aussies are rubbing the hands together with the thought of KP not being involved and an out of form captain who at the moment is about as much good as a ashtray on a motorbike.
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Rubbish. You win by selecting the best team of players. If you can't remember, for example, some English teams of the past two or three decades where dressing-room discord and factional in-fighting made the whole significantly less than the sum of its parts you must have a very short or selective memory indeed.
So right now England have a great TEAM filled with average to good players, how's that working out for you? Better to have a world class player in there somewhere don't you think? As much as cricket is a team sport, it is more about individual performance on the day.
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Rubbish. You win by selecting the best team of players. If you can't remember, for example, some English teams of the past two or three decades where dressing-room discord and factional in-fighting made the whole significantly less than the sum of its parts you must have a very short or selective memory indeed.
You'd also remember we recently won 3 consecutive Ashes series with a team full of personalities and cliques.
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Re: The Pietersen Saga

Looks like England's loss is going to be IPL's gain.
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Re: The Pietersen Saga

i'm surprised and slightly traumatised i might add - bit sensitive, agreed - at my fellow pom's prioritizing winning over principle. i thought sport was one of those avenues that because no-one ever dies you can hold out on principle forever. imo those texts from pietersen are the no-going-back moment and the guy deserves to be thrown out of the thing.

but listening to talksport, it's like 90 percent of people disagree with me. everyone thinks winning is everything. so much for honour and principle and all that glorious stuff that sport fans get all teary into their beers about - me included.

and of all the sports, cricket? isnt it like just not cricket ?

the aussies imo are a right honourable sports-bunch and it doesn't need saying: they would never let KP back in to the side. it's a fact. would they? would they bugger. and now KP saying such sanctimonious crap like 'the only people that matter are the fans in all this.' his principal public backer is piers morgan! like ffs! there couldn't be more of a sign that something is wrong. unless maybe there were two piers morgans, exactly the same in every respect except location, backing him to get back in the england team.

anyway, i think i'll forget all about it, and have a dance instead. i dont like cricket, yaaay, etc
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the aussies imo are a right honourable sports-bunch and it doesn't need saying: they would never let KP back in to the side. it's a fact. would they? would they bugger.
Ponting, Warne, Symonds, Hayden, Greg Chappell, the whole bunch of Packer's boys.. they all had issues. They all made their back into the side. I am not comparing their 'issues' with KP though. Just saying. But I think KP would have been back among the Aussies if such were the case. In the ECB it is not so much about the principle and more about ego right now.
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Re: The Pietersen Saga

fair point there about the aussie screamers. but KP's texting was treachery! do you reckon KP would be allowed into the aussie team if it was happening over there, after he made those texts? i'd bet no. i could be wrong...
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Re: The Pietersen Saga

Good start made by England in the third test.
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