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Cameron wants football for Britain. AMERICAN football.

If this is considered off-topic since it does not involve Switzerland, please accept my apologies. But since many people on this forum are British expats, I thought it might be of interest to them.

For the past several years, the NFL has played regular season games in London, and those games have now increased to three a year. (There are 16 games in an NFL season.) Fans have speculated that the NFL wants to put a franchise in London sometime in the future. Now, not only does the British government favour this, they are advocating it.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/...ansmsnsports11

I don't think this will have an immediate affect, but it might not be out of the question to see the London Jag-u-ars in the future.*









*The Jacksonville, Florida based franchise has struggled in attendance for some time now. I added the hyphens to emphasize the differences between British and American pronunciation. Most Americans pronounce "jaguar" with two syllables ("JAG-wahr") rather than three like the Brits ("JAG-oo-ahr").
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Re: Cameron wants football for Britain. AMERICAN football.

Don't we lose at enough sports already?
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Re: Cameron wants football for Britain. AMERICAN football.

Only if we improve the quality of our toilet paper. Oh! And the plumbing.

The New York Jets shipped their own toilet paper to London for their clash with the Miami Dolphins, as they were warned British paper was "very thin".

Mr Shpigel said this was how it was explained to him by the Jets' senior manager of team operations Aaron Degerness: "There was an intern who had been over to London numerous times.

"He noticed when he was there that - and I quote - 'the toilet paper was very thin because their plumbing isn't as good'.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-34430305

Funny, I thought they'd thinned the paper out some years ago when they were encouraging companies to make toilets that used less water for flushing. Doesn't work for me though, I simply use more toilet paper to get the same thickness as my lovely Swiss ones.
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Re: Cameron wants football for Britain. AMERICAN football.

I strongly suspect that the real reason that Cameron would like an NFL franchise in London is so that the city can host the Super Bowl. Currently, the NFL requires that their championship game be played in a city that is home to an NFL franchise.


This rule was obviously created as a "carrot" to provide incentive for cities to build expensive stadia for NFL teams. The "stick" would involve the threat of moving their team to some big city that doesn't have one. For the past two decades, the cities that most franchises have threatened to move to has been Los Angeles. That may change to London if the NFL can figure out a way for an NFL team to play eight games in Europe and eight games in North America in 17 weeks without collapsing due to jet lag.


If that can work out, I can understand why Cameron would want to host the Super Bowl. Silly name aside, it's a sporting event that brings in a LOT of money, and unlike the Premiere League championship that money would come from OUTSIDE Britain. We'll see what happens.
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Re: Cameron wants football for Britain. AMERICAN football.

It'll never happen. The time differences would probably make it impracticable unless the teams are prepared to play under floodlights at midnight UK time. You couldn't meet the US tv viewing slot otherwise.

Since 1991, the Super Bowl has begun between 6:19 and 6:40 PM EST so that most of the game is played during the primetime hours on the East Coast.[26]

That would be 11pm+ UK time.

Also I doubt London could match the selection criteria.

The location of the Super Bowl is chosen by the NFL well in advance, usually three to five years before the game. Cities place bids to host a Super Bowl and are evaluated in terms of stadium renovation and their ability to host.[40] In 2014, a document listing the specific requirements of Super Bowl hosts was leaked, giving a clear list of what was required for a Super Bowl host.[41] Much of the cost of the Super Bowl is to be assumed by the host community, although some costs are enumerated within the requirements to be assumed by the NFL. Some of the host requirements include:
  • The host stadium must host an NFL team and must have a minimum of 70,000 seats, with the media and electrical amenities necessary to produce the Super Bowl. Stadiums may include temporary seating for Super Bowls, but seating must be approved by the league. Stadiums where the average game day temperature is below 50 Fahrenheit must either have a roof, or a waiver given by the league. There must be a minimum of 35,000 parking spaces within one mile of the stadium.
  • The host stadium must have space for the Gameday Experience, a large pregame entertainment area, within walking distance of the stadium.
  • The host city must have space for the NFL Experience, the interactive football theme park which is operated the week prior to the Super Bowl. An indoor venue for the event must have a minimum of 850,000 square feet, and an outdoor venue must have a minimum of 1,000,000 square feet. Additionally, there must be space nearby for the Media Center, and space for all other events involved in the Super Bowl week, including golf courses and bowling alleys.
  • The necessary infrastructure must be in place around the stadium and other Super Bowl facilities, including parking, security, electrical needs, media needs, communication needs and transportation needs.
  • There must be a minimum number of hotel spaces within one hour's drive of the stadium equaling 35% of the stadium's capacity, along with hotels for the teams, officials, media and other dignitaries. (For Super Bowl XXXIX, the city of Jacksonville docked several luxury cruise liners at their port to act as temporary hotel space.[42])
  • There must be practice space of equal and comparable quality for both teams within a 20-minute drive of the team hotels, and rehearsal space for all events within a reasonable distance to the stadium. The practice facilities must have one grass field and at least one field of the same surface as the host stadium.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_...per_Bowl_on_TV

While Wembley can hold 90,000 there isn't the indoor or outdoor space needed and certainly not enough of the other requirements within a 20 minute-1 hour drive - not in London traffic. And the public transport system couldn't cope either.
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Re: Cameron wants football for Britain. AMERICAN football.

London also had the opportunity to host the Grand Depart for the 2017 TdF (won the bid), but pulled out a day before contract signing, claiming they (TfL) couldn't justify the expense, after all.

I can see the NFL being happy with that, when it comes to awarding franchises and Super Bowls.
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Re: Cameron wants football for Britain. AMERICAN football.

I'm an American living in CH and was very happy to go see the Cowboys play last year in the UK. The feel was like it was a Jags 'home game'...

As for the poster regarding the time change, hubby and I were just talking about this when we watched the game yesterday. It would have been 0800 where we lived, not a bad way to start a Sunday. I think it would actually stick. Normally we'd go to breakfast, hit the gym, then go home and watch football, but every now and then on those "lazy Sundays", we'd tune in to the game.

Of course, our Cowboys are done for this season..so that's a whole other thread
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Re: Cameron wants football for Britain. AMERICAN football.

Really! You expect Americans to desert their churches in droves to watch football on Sunday morning? No way.

Unfortunately the US tv channels will govern when it's shown there and it certainly won't be a Sunday morning. Primetime US EST which means 11pm in the UK.
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Re: Cameron wants football for Britain. AMERICAN football.

Surely I hope there is a hint of sarcasim relating the church comments. US regular networks don't have to pick it up..most watch on the Sunday Package anyway, and expats on the NFL.com of course.

Thanks to the "new" churches, you can go Wed, Sat, Sun night... Christians decided since our work force typically put in 50+ hours a week, sleeping in on Sunday is now more important.
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Surely I hope there is a hint of sarcasim relating the church comments. US regular networks don't have to pick it up..most watch on the Sunday Package anyway, and expats on the NFL.com of course.

Thanks to the "new" churches, you can go Wed, Sat, Sun night... Christians decided since our work force typically put in 50+ hours a week, sleeping in on Sunday is now more important.
Not really, it certainly wouldn't go down well in my part of the States. Churches are packed on Sunday mornings.
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Re: Cameron wants football for Britain. AMERICAN football.

@Medea

If the NFL and the networks that broadcast the game felt that the only acceptable time to broadcast the Super Bowl was 6:00 PM EST, then of course London will never host it. But the last few Super Bowls have had ENORMOUS ratings and have set records for the most watched television event in American history. For that, they might just play the game at 11AM to accommodate the local crowd. If BBC is broadcasting a London Super Bowl, it wouldn't shock me if they broadcast it on tape delay like they do with the Olympics.

The upshot is the NFL might be willing to get slightly lower ratings in America if there is a chance of growing similar ratings in Europe.
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Really! You expect Americans to desert their churches in droves to watch football on Sunday morning? No way.

Unfortunately the US tv channels will govern when it's shown there and it certainly won't be a Sunday morning. Primetime US EST which means 11pm in the UK.
You'd be surprised at the number of Alaskans and Hawaiians who do just that.
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Re: Cameron wants football for Britain. AMERICAN football.

I was in London last year when the Dolphins and Raiders(?) visited. I don't think too many care about the actual game at Wembley, but Regent street (that's a major shopping street in central London) was blocked off and traffic free with a huge street party going on. Basically a day full of Americana from hot dogs to cheerleaders dancing.

I think it's an attempt to put another event in the tourist map and I saw - well, mostly heard - a lot of American English in the crowds. I don't know if this is expats going to London to the event from around the UK or Europe... or if it is American tourists coming to London. Anyway, I guess it pays off...
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