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iPod doping

Yes, it sounds ridicilious.

Jennifer Goebel won the Lakefront Marathon in the U.S. She was listening to her ipod whilst running the race. She was awarded the title of winner but then had it withdrawn after organizers found out she was listening to an ipod.

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I think this is crazy, but i must admit certain music really does get me going when i'm jogging
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What was she listening to? Perhaps

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Re: iPod doping

Were Microsoft the event's main sponsors maybe?
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Re: iPod doping

Is the reason she was disqualified because she had a technological advantage? Then people with fancier running shoes shouldn't be allowed. If it's a motivation question, then they should make the runners run with ear plugs so that they can't hear the cheering bystanders, especially in the last minutes. It doesn't change her physically, except the fact that it actually adds weight (yes, a minute amount, but still). I actually find this a rather ridiculous reason to disqualify.

Maybe the iPods shouldn't be allowed out of safety reasons, but a secured running path is probably the only time that you don't have to listen for traffic and stuff while running.
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Is the reason she was disqualified because she had a technological advantage? Then people with fancier running shoes shouldn't be allowed. If it's a motivation question, then they should make the runners run with ear plugs so that they can't hear the cheering bystanders, especially in the last minutes. It doesn't change her physically, except the fact that it actually adds weight (yes, a minute amount, but still). I actually find this a rather ridiculous reason to disqualify.

Maybe the iPods shouldn't be allowed out of safety reasons, but a secured running path is probably the only time that you don't have to listen for traffic and stuff while running.
Its more because it might not be music - it might be coaching from her trainer, it might be a rhythm to run at to maintain a certain (winning) speed etc etc. Its the case in most serious competitive events.
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Is the reason she was disqualified because she had a technological advantage? Then people with fancier running shoes shouldn't be allowed. If it's a motivation question, then they should make the runners run with ear plugs so that they can't hear the cheering bystanders, especially in the last minutes. It doesn't change her physically, except the fact that it actually adds weight (yes, a minute amount, but still). I actually find this a rather ridiculous reason to disqualify.

Maybe the iPods shouldn't be allowed out of safety reasons, but a secured running path is probably the only time that you don't have to listen for traffic and stuff while running.
Yep it sounds like non sense to me, unless they especified in their rules that she could not listen to music while participating...still weird though
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Re: iPod doping

On the other hand, just as a hypnotist can tap into the subconscious mind, by words or sounds, causing people to do some extraordinary things(first hand experience). It's quite possible that certain types of music can tap into the subconscious and block out certain sensors(pain, fatigue) that would normally cause one to succumb to, therefore, creating some sort of superhuman.....

Just a thought.....

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Re: iPod doping

Can I have that music please?
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Is the reason she was disqualified because she had a technological advantage?
Nope, she was disqualified because they're explicitly banned...

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Re: iPod doping

if that's the rule, then that's the rule.

she should have known the rules. I have no sympathy for people who either do not take care to find out, or ignore the rules, and then complain post-fact that the rules don't make sense...

in this case, the rule even makes sense... do we know for sure that the ipod was just an ipod? what if it was a walkie-talkie? what if her coach was guiding her pace using a walkie-talkie dressed up to look like an ipod??
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Re: iPod doping

Sounds odd at first, but I see the potential to cheat.

Ipod with a pedometer built in, GPS, heart rate monitor. It just takes a simple program to optimize a perfect pace (speed up, slow down, take a breather).

Definitely an advantage in a competitive sport.

Interesting nevertheless
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Re: iPod doping

It gets better!!! She actually only finished second but...

"[the] fastest woman, Cassie Peller, a 23-year-old student at Marquette University,
was disqualified shortly after the race for accepting aid - a water bottle - from a
friend outside of the official water stations.

That made Jennifer Goebel, 27, the winner, but only for a couple days. "


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Sounds odd at first, but I see the potential to cheat.

Ipod with a pedometer built in, GPS, heart rate monitor. It just takes a simple program to optimize a perfect pace (speed up, slow down, take a breather).

Definitely an advantage in a competitive sport.

Interesting nevertheless
It does not take a James Bond to have this type of gadget, you can buy this type of competitive advantage at any Nike store... and I think it is correct to outlaw all types of electronics. Otherwise there will always be a cheater...

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It gets better!!! She actually only finished second but...

"[the] fastest woman, Cassie Peller, a 23-year-old student at Marquette University,
was disqualified shortly after the race for accepting aid - a water bottle - from a
friend outside of the official water stations.

That made Jennifer Goebel, 27, the winner, but only for a couple days. "


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How stupid can an athlete actually be? I agree that many rules might be on the hard side, but "do not accept any drink we did not control during the race" is a rather obvious anti-doping thing...
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Nope apparently it was this:

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Sounds odd at first, but I see the potential to cheat.

Ipod with a pedometer built in, GPS, heart rate monitor. It just takes a simple program to optimize a perfect pace (speed up, slow down, take a breather).

Definitely an advantage in a competitive sport.

Interesting nevertheless
Most athletes have this already. Many Heartrate monitors now have a method of measuring pace which an athlete can check realtime against their Heartrate during a race. This is allowed so I don't see why the iPod is banned. The motivational effects can be achieved through imagery which is also not banned.

Accepted that its a rule so she should have known... but it is a silly rule.
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Re: iPod doping

I can't believe you can actually run faster if you're listening to an ipod.
Is it scientifically proven ?
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Most athletes have this already. Many Heartrate monitors now have a method of measuring pace which an athlete can check realtime against their Heartrate during a race. This is allowed so I don't see why the iPod is banned. The motivational effects can be achieved through imagery which is also not banned.

Accepted that its a rule so she should have known... but it is a silly rule.

could it be for safety reasons?

otoh, three people died at the Detroit Marathon, sadly.
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