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Old 07.05.2015, 10:34
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(...) this wonderful resource which today is certainly the leading meeting place for English-speakers in Switzerland.

Today it's all about celebrating this place that many of us view as the pub down the road, the water cooler for those of us who don't go to an office (or can't understand our colleagues in the office!), or even a second home. Although it's virtual, EF is also very real -- founded on and made up of real people who over the years have built and maintained a very real community here in Switzerland.


Happy birthday, EF! Take a bow!
Lately I have heard the strangest things about EF, e. g. very naughty mods, veterans who should be ashamed of themselves and people who get stripped of their status to have it replaced by something meaningless ..

But happy birthday, anyway.
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Old 07.05.2015, 10:43
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Re: Happy 10th birthday, EF!

It's a great resource - a big thank you to everyone who puts time and effort into it. Here's to the next 10 years!
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Old 07.05.2015, 12:51
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Re: Happy 10th birthday, EF!

Happy birthday EF! Don't know what I'd do without you.

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Old 07.05.2015, 13:16
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Re: Happy 10th birthday, EF!

A big thank you to all those who've contributed to this wonderful and resource-rich site. During my first few months here in Switzerland, my family and friends were surprised how much I know about Switzerland and how to do things here and there. All because of this forum!

Happy 10th EF!
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Old 07.05.2015, 13:42
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Re: Happy 10th birthday, EF!

Happy 10th Birthday English Forum.

What a great legacy Mark gave us.

With grateful thanks.
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Old 07.05.2015, 13:49
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Re: Happy 10th birthday, EF!

And let us never forget Mark for starting all of this.
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Believe it or not, English Forum turns 10 today -- which makes us at least middle-aged in internet years!

With this post on 7 May 2005, EF sprang to life. (Nothing changes... posted in the wrong forum... ) The forum was conceived by mark, who invested countless hours (and francs) into developing this wonderful resource which today is certainly the leading meeting place for English-speakers in Switzerland.
Happy Birthday EF!!

Interesting that this is the oldest post and now reported as the first post.. Doesn't somehow fit the image of Mark, nor the countless hours he must have invested to start this forum..
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Old 07.05.2015, 14:39
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Doesn't somehow fit the image of Mark
What about the news that he was last active on the forum on 7th September 2013??

I'd hazard a guess that EF is actually older than 10 yrs but a migration screwed up post references at some point.
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Old 07.05.2015, 15:50
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Interesting that this is the oldest post and now reported as the first post.. Doesn't somehow fit the image of Mark, nor the countless hours he must have invested to start this forum..
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I'd hazard a guess that EF is actually older than 10 yrs but a migration screwed up post references at some point.
Looks like a couple of eager beavers got in while Mark was still doing the hard work setting up.

Here is his first post the following day

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Old 07.05.2015, 18:06
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Lately I have heard the strangest things about EF, e. g. very naughty mods..
It's not that bad...things always seem bigger in gossip.



Anyways, I have never met the creator, unfortunately, but it often seems to me we have managed to keep at least some of the legacy. Positive thumbs ups to our community.

Greets from one of the non-native English speakers here.

Hodně štěstí, EF.
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Looks like a couple of eager beavers got in while Mark was still doing the hard work setting up.

Here is his first post the following day

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Yes sure.. because a website with no content is easy to find.. And of course it makes better sense than there being a flaw in the data migration.

But I'd love to know how Mark managed to post 3 days posthumously..

EF was started by Mark, through countless hours spent diligently planning content, starting threads and asking his friends to join him in adding to the content and to help it become a community and not just him talking to himself.

A pity it hasn't been taken care of quite as diligently. But clearly it is still a community that thrives well...
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Old 07.05.2015, 18:26
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With this post on 7 May 2005, EF sprang to life. (Nothing changes... posted in the wrong forum... )
Dear 1st EF poster.

Is your apartment still available?
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Yes sure.. because a website with no content is easy to find.. And of course it makes better sense than there being a flaw in the data migration.

But I'd love to know how Mark managed to post 3 days posthumously..

EF was started by Mark, through countless hours spent diligently planning content, starting threads and asking his friends to join him in adding to the content and to help it become a community and not just him talking to himself.

A pity it hasn't been taken care of quite as diligently. But clearly it is still a community that thrives well...
Must have been another 'Ghost' account.
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Old 07.05.2015, 21:29
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Yes sure.. because a website with no content is easy to find.. And of course it makes better sense than there being a flaw in the data migration.
Sorry, I didn't realise you wanted to turn this into some sort of pissing contest. Maybe you could have opened a thread on the proper anniversary if you feel it's different.

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But I'd love to know how Mark managed to post 3 days posthumously..
You and your friends were in charge at the time, so you're in a much better position to answer that than us.
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Old 07.05.2015, 22:49
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Sorry, I didn't realise you wanted to turn this into some sort of pissing contest. Maybe you could have opened a thread on the proper anniversary if you feel it's different.

You and your friends were in charge at the time, so you're in a much better position to answer that than us.
Because nothing beats posting on EF at the founders funeral does it?

That must be it rather than someone ballsing up a migration at some point and a whole load of content getting lost.

Still doesn't explain how he was active in September 2013, nor how the joint founder has no posts prior to 2009.
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Old 08.05.2015, 00:16
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Re: Happy 10th birthday, EF!

FWIW, the numbering of the first few threads has been the same since at least February 2007 (which is the earliest reliable wayback impression) (well, thread 9 is still the announcement, so its reasonable to assume those before it are the same)
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Old 08.05.2015, 00:40
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Re: Happy 10th birthday, EF!

I made friendships for life thanks to the EF, and this made my Swiss experience a great one.

That's why I like coming back from time to time, it's like re-living a pleasant memory.
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Old 08.05.2015, 00:51
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Re: Happy 10th birthday, EF!

And a sincere thank you to the mods and legends for putting up with us noobs.
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Old 08.05.2015, 06:21
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Re: Happy 10th birthday, EF!

EF has turned out, I think, to be a good legacy. It fills many roles and provides a lot of good information and stimulating discussion for the community (as well as a lot of laughs!). One thing to keep in mind when threads go south--no one is making us read them!

Here is to all the contributors and mods who make this a unique community.

May the next ten years continue to enhance the tradition.

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Old 08.05.2015, 10:13
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That must be it rather than someone ballsing up a migration at some point and a whole load of content getting lost.
You may be right - I'm aware of one major database crash that brought the forum offline for around a week, and not many people thought it would come back. However Mark did rescue the vast majority of the data and was able to restore the EF.

Also in the year following Marks death the forum's leadership was a complete and utter mess. Individually the mods and admins, I'm sure, had the forums best interests at heart, but together it just didn't work well. A few, it would appear, were pursuing their own particular agendas and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if things were altered in support of those agendas.

However the fact remains that according to the timestamps, the first post on EF and Marks join date was the 7th of May 2005. In the absence of any further verifiable information then the 7th of May 2005 stands as the birth date of the EF. If it was truely on another date then I'm afraid that's been lost to history.

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Still doesn't explain how he was active in September 2013, nor how the joint founder has no posts prior to 2009.
Off hand I can think of two people that possibly had Marks login details. If either of them did log in using his details back in September, then in all honestly I can't really blame them. If I was in their particular position then I'm afraid temptation may well have overcome me as well.

Anyway that hole has now been closed, with no possibility of password recovery.


We thought it would be good to celebrate 10 years of the EF, and obtained the date from the only reliable source we could. It's seems a shame that some would want to criticise that.
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