The "Somebody bad repped me and I didn't like it!" Thread

[mirfield]

	Quote:	nil
	bof! Groan... This is so useless to get upset over that! If at least it was in the ''real'' world! A stupid bike cut me on the road: Press groan button. The guy leave is paper on the street: Groan! That will make it much more fun to groan at people for real. :d

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[Chicago]

I'm curious about the rep system. Someone gave me 7 rep points. (Thank you) But I can only give 1. How does the ability to raise the amount of rep one can give work? Is it just a random moderator decision or is there a number of posts/thanks type of thing? I didn't find it in the FAQ.

Thanks for the answer.

[MusicChick]

Hmmm...The rep is amusing. I don't care for trying to be the popular one or collect those blobs as jewelry but it's nice somebody I respect shows you respect. Plus, it is fun to watch who is thanking who, tells you more about people. Some thank the funny ones, some the wise ones, some the absurd wisecracks, some only chicks, some only men, to not give other chicks too much credit, some only their biking mates, some only those who share the same parenting or pet raising tips, it is actually hillarious.

If someone gets their panties all in a bunch in this rep/thank/groan street cred, I feel that person might feel not awarded accordingly to their efforts... but that's life, innit. Space hoarding is a funny concept, I think we used to call similar stuff at uni "gesicht kurz", you show up, you are visible, you score credit, you might become a point of reference for some. Does not say much, though, does it.

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[MusicChick]

	Quote:	Chicago
	I'm curious about the rep system. Someone gave me 7 rep points. (Thank you) But I can only give 1. How does the ability to raise the amount of rep one can give work? Is it just a random moderator decision or is there a number of posts/thanks type of thing? I didn't find it in the FAQ. Thanks for the answer.

Your ability to give points will raise accordingly to the points you collect.

[mirfield]

	Quote:	Chicago
	I'm curious about the rep system. Someone gave me 7 rep points. (Thank you) But I can only give 1. How does the ability to raise the amount of rep one can give work? Is it just a random moderator decision or is there a number of posts/thanks type of thing? I didn't find it in the FAQ. Thanks for the answer.

The more rep you have, the more you can give or take.

It's a bit rough on a newbie who provokes the wrath of an oldie, but we've all been there.


I need a new thread - "Somebody once bad repped me and on the whole I guess they had a point."

[Nil]

	Quote:	mirfield
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Yep... I just don't see how we can do it in daily situation.

A bit difficult for me to follow the guy, stop the car, get out and walk to him to stick a star or a groan sticker on his shirt!

Would love to see the guy's face though!

[Dougal's Breakfast]

Isn't life hard?

Ooh look! Flowers!

[mirfield]

	Quote:	Nil
	Yep... I just don't see how we can do it in daily situation. A bit difficult for me to follow the guy, stop the car, get out and walk to him to stick a star or a groan sticker on his shirt! Would love to see the guy's face though!

The thing on the left isn't a pen, it's a blowpipe - a swift poison dart to the back of the neck will soon slow the bugger down.

[Begga]

You know when you have spent too much time on the englishforum when you find yourself carrying a box of cherries with you every where you go, so that you can use the red cherries to throw red blobbies at people who irritates you in the real life.

Yes that's right, I need to log out now. Adios amigos!

[litespeed]

	Quote:	Begga
	You know when you have spent too much time on the englishforum when you find yourself carrying a box of cherries with you every where you go, so that you can use the red cherries to throw red blobbies at people who irritates you in the real life.

Be fair. You'd be better off carrying a box of those mixed red/green grapes...so at least you can give positive rep as well.. (although not sure people would notice the difference when they have fruit launched in their general direction).

[Peg A]

	Quote:	mirfield
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	Quote:	Nil
	Yep... I just don't see how we can do it in daily situation. A bit difficult for me to follow the guy, stop the car, get out and walk to him to stick a star or a groan sticker on his shirt! Would love to see the guy's face though!

I think that could be a neat / funny experiment:

Walk around town with 2 sets of stickers, some with smiley faces, some with frowns. People who irritate you get frown-y face, people who please you (give greetings, smile, help with your groceries / pram, whatever) get a smiley sticker.

I wonder how people would react.

[Dougal's Breakfast]

	Quote:	Peg A
	I wonder how people would react.

... with violence?

[Mrs T]

	Quote:	Slaphead
	The thanks, groan, rep system does, on balance, allow people, especially newbies, to see who is most likely to have the best and most accurate responses on questions. For the rest of us who are on here day in and day out it serves considerably less purpose as we aready know what certain characters are like.

You see, I'm not sure that this is really so, do newbies really look at the number of red\green blobs?

I think some people with a lot of green blobs have them because they are part of a click or are friends with the people, they know them in 3d. Nobody knows who I am, I haven't met anyone, but I can tell very quickly here who is friends with whom by the way the thanks and posts go.

	Quote:	Suzagna
	One of the problems in this forum is that for some users, the biggest motivation to be here is to judge others and deliver their reputation and thanks/groans, instead of being helpful. The feeling of "looking at someone else over their shoulder" is one of their biggest pleasures.

I really hope you are wrong about this, but one does wonder...

	Quote:	Nil
	An ass in an ass no matter how good rep he or she has on the forum. The answers and the way someone talk to others give you more then any greenies.

ABSOLUTELY!! That's definitely worth a shag!

	Quote:	MusicChick
	Plus, it is fun to watch who is thanking who, tells you more about people.

It's certainly very telling.

I don't care either way, I don't goran or red blob, though I did once to see what would happen, as I predicted, the receiver just groaned bad repped right back: revenge

I just think it's a pity to come on to the net and see people be badly treated, ganged up on, attacked or be the subject of rude behaviour, the groan and negative rep feature only accentuates that type of behaviour because it discourages constructive exchange and understanding, and in doing so creates ill feeling among different factions of EF.

We all have busy lives, family, children, animals, work, worries and difficulties, it's nice to come one the net and get help and support when we need it and have a laugh, it's not so nice to come on and be belittled when you ask a question or groaned at or given a bad reputation because you say something someone doesn't understand or agree with.

I think Mark created this place to be a helpful haven, not a place of grief and bullying and disrespect, no?

[Dougal's Breakfast]

	Quote:	Mrs T
	I don't care either way

Yes, so you've said, but you clearly do.

Your posts - when you're not talking about the forum - are good ones. You're an active and helpful member of the EF, yet you insist on getting involved in these silly meta-threads about forum life. Why? It's not that important. It's just an internet forum.

Why not accept that it is the way it is, take it the way it comes, and, when your questions are answered, or your views heard, log off, turn off and go and sniff the flowers?

Really, it's not that big a deal, surely?

I've still got half a bottle left - do you want some?

[JLF]

	Quote:	Mrs T
	You see, I'm not sure that this is really so, do newbies really look at the number of red\green blobs?

Yes, we do (once we figure out what they mean at least)...

	Quote:	Mrs T
	I just think it's a pity to come on to the net and see people be badly treated, ganged up on, attacked or be the subject of rude behaviour, the groan and negative rep feature only accentuates that type of behaviour because it discourages constructive exchange and understanding, and in doing so creates ill feeling among different factions of EF. We all have busy lives, family, children, animals, work, worries and difficulties, it's nice to come one the net and get help and support when we need it and have a laugh, it's not so nice to come on and be belittled when you ask a question or groaned at or given a bad reputation because you say something someone doesn't understand or agree with.

In all honesty Mrs. T--we *all* know how you feel by now. You have said this over and over and over again. One must ask why you come back if you complain so readily about what goes on here?

[Mrs T]

	Quote:	Dougal's Breakfast
	Yes, so you've said, but you clearly do. Your posts - when you're not talking about the forum - are good ones. You're an active and helpful member of the EF, yet you insist on getting involved in these silly meta-threads about forum life. Why? It's not that important. It's just an internet forum. Why not accept that it is the way it is, take it the way it comes, and, when your questions are answered, or your views heard, log off, turn off and go and sniff the flowers? Really, it's not that big a deal, surely? I've still got half a bottle left - do you want some?

Thanks, but I don't drink, a decaf espresso would be nice though .

Why should I accept what I believe to be wrong? If people did that, women still wouldn't be voting and similar such things...

Saying that it's "just the net" seems like an excuse to be rude, though, I hasten to add, I don't think I've ever seen you be rude.

Shouldn't this forum be enjoyed by all and not just a few?

[Dougal's Breakfast]

	Quote:	Mrs T
	Thanks, but I don't drink, a decaf espresso would be nice though .

I've got a tapful of water for you here, if you like.

	Quote:
	Why should I accept what I believe to be wrong? If people did that, women still wouldn't be voting and similar such things...

Indeed. But the behaviour of a few strangers in an internet forum is hardly the same as an official policy directed towards half the adult population, is it? It's like complaining about the tossers at the golf club with reference to Nazi Germany, and we all know where that would lead...

	Quote:
	Saying that it's "just the net" seems like an excuse to be rude, though, I hasten to add, I don't think I've ever seen you be rude.

Oh, I love to be rude. I'm just very selective about whom I wish to insult. Not that it matters, because they're probably offline and busy making sweet love to their lovely partners anyway.

	Quote:
	Shouldn't this forum be enjoyed by all and not just a few?

This forum is more democratic and egalitarian these days than it has ever been. Go back to some of the threads from 2006/2007 and you'll see what I mean.

We really don't know we're born.

[Mrs T]

	Quote:	JLF
	In all honesty Mrs. T--we *all* know how you feel by now. You have said this over and over and over again. One must ask why you come back if you complain so readily about what goes on here?

I think EF is great! It's a fantastic source of useful information and can be a really good laugh at times, I like it here, I like the people here, but like everything and everywhere else, it's not perfect, everyone and everything can improve. I don't bring the subject up, but when it comes up, I voice my opinion. I do apologise for repeating myself, however, I had no idea I was so well read, sorry 'bout that.

Nobody knows who I am, I haven't met anyone, but I can tell very quickly here who is friends with whom by the way the thanks and posts go.

No you can't. However, rep stands for "reputation" but that really means "regard". It's the regard you have for someone else. This is informed by the posts they make/the things they say, as well as who they are, and one obviously informs the other. If I am friends with someone on the forum, it's for a reason. I have respect and regard for people I'm friends with and so I will more likely give them postive rep, since they're more likely to say things/make posts that I agree with/find amusing/clever. That's not a clique, it's just reality.


I just think it's a pity to come on to the net and see people be badly treated, ganged up on, attacked or be the subject of rude behaviour, the groan and negative rep feature only accentuates that type of behaviour because it discourages constructive exchange and understanding, and in doing so creates ill feeling among different factions of EF.

You propagate more ill feeling than anyone else. Half the people here wouldn't know that there was a problem until you invent it with your posts. This isn't cotton wool land, people will say what they want. I don't find people here especially rude, and certainly not especially polite. Why should they be? The reason I and many others keep on logging onto EF is because people on here seem real and honest, and that's always bother comforting and interesting.

We all have busy lives, family, children, animals, work, worries and difficulties, it's nice to come one the net and get help and support when we need it and have a laugh, it's not so nice to come on and be belittled when you ask a question or groaned at or given a bad reputation because you say something someone doesn't understand or agree with.

If you say something a bit silly, more than likely you'll be politely corrected or advised. If you continue, or if your silliness takes the form of a rant or of prejudice or of something equally unacceptable, it will be spoken of either as a response or groan or negative rep, whichever seems the most fitting to the audience. I'm glad about that. I've never received a groan or negative rep that I wholly disagreed with. I've never said anything in my life that I was totally sure about. Any honourable person should interject in a forum/conversation/debate environment, where they feel it is right to do so.

I think Mark created this place to be a helpful haven, not a place of grief and bullying and disrespect, no?

From what I've read, helpful yes, haven - certainly not. He seemed to take far less of this sort of crap when he was around, and seemed to want the forum to be far leaner than it is today. Now, while that level of moderation probably wouldn't be possible/appropriate with the forum of the size it is today, I feel he probably would have deleted every one of your moany posts.