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After the last few pages of this thread I am convinced that we'll be living in a dystopian satire before we know it.
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After the last few pages of this thread I am convinced that we'll be living in a dystopian satire before we know it.
You took the wrong pill
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Old 25.08.2011, 13:37
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You took the wrong pill /THREAD
Fixed that for you.
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CONTEXT!!!!!!!!!!! He is talking about religious belief.

Belief is the psychological state in which an individual holds a proposition or premise to be true.

Without belief as defined above there is no possible way to have a scientific process.

The difference between science and religion is not belief, but the willingness to change your belief in the face of evidence.


Piffle, I guess or speculate that it is a car and therefore don't cross. It could be a bus or a motorcycle, I am not going to risk my life either way and it does not require anything half as firm as belief. See the definition above. I don't feel like too much of a semantic debate this morning.



More like if the toilette wall was not in the way. Sorry Enaj but I typically don't take most of philosophy from a Amsterdam toilette wall.

I personally have no problems seeing, wrapping my head around or understanding eternity, infinity or other simple mathematical abstractions like that.



What humans fill thier voids with is hardly a topic for public debate.

I condem any belief system that would, in the face of evidence, not change its belief system to accept that evidence.

I am fully willing to talk about philosophy but you should know that I am belong to the school of Hedonistic Egotism and I don't hold with religious mumbo jumbo at all. Imprinting children with fairytales and telling them it is the truth is EVIL and I refuse to be involved in any discussion that encourages that behaviour.

I don't know Martin Heidegger but my formal education in philosophy would not have included him because of his Nazi party membership and support of Hitler. What points did he try and make?
About Heidegger, you do have a point and you have the right to refuse to read his writings. I was disappointed to read about his private affinities, too. Still, I think this does not show anywhere in his work (that's not only my opinion, but also my philosophy professors opinion). One can enjoy Wagner's music and forget that he was Hitler's favourite composer; I tried to adopt the same approach to Heidegger, but I totally respect your take on this. There were a few great writers in my country (Poland), who collaborated with the communists; still, they produced wonderful novels and poetry and are still widely-read.
When Jung was talking about religion, he did not mean organised religion, but only a universal human yearning and a sense of awe which we have when thinking about eternity.
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Old 25.08.2011, 15:31
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About Heidegger, you do have a point and you have the right to refuse to read his writings.
Oh, don't misunderstand me. I don't give a damn about what his affiliations were. Just the university that I studied philosophy at would not have taught him so I had no exposure. I was interested in what he was talking about.

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When Jung was talking about religion, he did not mean organised religion, but only a universal human yearning and a sense of awe which we have when thinking about eternity.
I will try and dig up a peice that I wrote about my views on philosophy and religion if I can find it. I found Jung's thinking a bit wooly on the whole thing.

By the way, we may be drifting here so OP or anybody else feel free to shut this tangent down if you wish.
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About Heidegger, you do have a point and you have the right to refuse to read his writings. I was disappointed to read about his private affinities, too. Still, I think this does not show anywhere in his work (that's not only my opinion, but also my philosophy professors opinion). One can enjoy Wagner's music and forget that he was Hitler's favourite composer; I tried to adopt the same approach to Heidegger, but I totally respect your take on this. There were a few great writers in my country (Poland), who collaborated with the communists; still, they produced wonderful novels and poetry and are still widely-read.
When Jung was talking about religion, he did not mean organised religion, but only a universal human yearning and a sense of awe which we have when thinking about eternity.

Has this thread finally gone Godwin? Come on, we can do better!
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Old 25.08.2011, 18:59
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Has this thread finally gone Godwin? Come on, we can do better!
Ha ha, nice one But I didn't start it.
I do apologize for going off topic and I'll shut up now.
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Re: The medical advantages of homeopathy

I don't have much opinion about homeopathy, because I don't know enough about it. I don't agree that it is all bullshit. I do believe you can heal from plants to certain physical unbalance.

I wouldn't try to heal a serious disease or cancer, or virus with it, and only it.

Where I am from, we have a strong native american culture. And no matter what many people say, some remedies do work for small and non life-treatening sickness.

Like a sore troat, a coughing, no energy, etc...
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I don't have much opinion about homeopathy, because I don't know enough about it. I don't agree that it is all bullshit. I do believe you can heal from plants to certain physical unbalance.

I wouldn't try to heal a serious disease or cancer, or virus with it, and only it.

Where I am from, we have a strong native american culture. And no matter what many people say, some remedies do work for small and non life-treatening sickness.

Like a sore troat, a coughing, no energy, etc...
Herbal remedies have a chemical component to them. Homeopathic remedies don't.
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Old 26.08.2011, 03:30
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I don't have much opinion about homeopathy, because I don't know enough about it. I don't agree that it is all bullshit. I do believe you can heal from plants to certain physical unbalance.
You should check out (I hesitate to say "google") homeopathy , before you step into the cross-hairs of the 21inch guns and precision missiles, and avail yourself of f what homeopathy actually is.

If you do not, you will (sadly but inevitably) become an uninformed, ingorant, uneducated lamb for the slaughter.

Is that what you want?

COS THAT'S WHAT WILL HAPPEN!

OTOH, If you think that water diluted by water diluted by water diluted by water diluted by water diluted by water diluted by water diluted by water ad ridiculuum will somehow cure something, well in which case... Good Luck, and god bless all the folk out there who believe that ... (i'm ignostic but all those folk clearly need all the help they can get...)
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OTOH, If you think that water diluted by water diluted by water diluted by water diluted by water diluted by water diluted by water diluted by water ad ridiculuum will somehow cure something
Dude! You forgot the leather pad. It won't work without the magic tapping.
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I don't have much opinion about homeopathy, because I don't know enough about it. I don't agree that it is all bullshit. I do believe you can heal from plants to certain physical unbalance.
So much fail in one short paragraph.
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I don't have much opinion about homeopathy, because I don't know enough about it. I don't agree that it is all bullshit. I do believe you can heal from plants to certain physical unbalance.

I wouldn't try to heal a serious disease or cancer, or virus with it, and only it.

Where I am from, we have a strong native american culture. And no matter what many people say, some remedies do work for small and non life-treatening sickness.

Like a sore troat, a coughing, no energy, etc...
But that is phytotherapy, I guess.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytotherapy
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I do believe you can heal from plants .....
You are supported here by science (you know, the thing with evidence) as aspirins are known to releave headaches and they are made from plants .
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They make homeopathic medication for pets now. I am trying to find a homeopathic remedy for rabies. What do you think?
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Enaj, you have to realise, surely, that the reason the "5" were re-instated were not because homeopathy was good: homeopathy, holistic, herbal and neural therapies and traditional Chinese medicine. Swiss info article here.

It was/is a simple matter of politics. In order to get them all back in, they included homeopathy to increase the support for the initiative. I would be willing to place a rhetorical bet that had each "alternative" tried to force a vote individually, they wouldn't have gotten very far.

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Well CarlosR, the 5 therapies were re-instated because the same 5 therapies were dropped in the first place. So it stands to reason that they should stand together in solidarity to become re-instated. Possibly it is just a matter of politics but I don't really believe there is any great competition or major misunderstandings between practictioners in these fields of complementary medicine.
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They make homeopathic medication for pets now. I am trying to find a homeopathic remedy for rabies. What do you think?
Look for a vet who works with homeopathy
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You should check out (I hesitate to say "google") homeopathy , before you step into the cross-hairs of the 21inch guns and precision missiles, and avail yourself of f what homeopathy actually is.

If you do not, you will (sadly but inevitably) become an uninformed, ingorant, uneducated lamb for the slaughter.

Is that what you want?

COS THAT'S WHAT WILL HAPPEN!

OTOH, If you think that water diluted by water diluted by water diluted by water diluted by water diluted by water diluted by water diluted by water ad ridiculuum will somehow cure something, well in which case... Good Luck, and god bless all the folk out there who believe that ... (i'm ignostic but all those folk clearly need all the help they can get...)
Thanks for waking up my brain! I should have known better. Go figure, back home, people call the healing by plants (in capsule, pills, tea or concentre of some oils) as Homeopathy.
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You are supported here by science (you know, the thing with evidence) as aspirins are known to releave headaches and they are made from plants .
Yeah but do they include plants we grow in the garden or we find in the nature and drink in a form of tea?
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