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Old 23.08.2011, 10:55
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There's something horribly unethical about doctors prescribing homeopathy, they must know it's not doing anything, yet they're prepared to sell it anyway. Like a medical version of the useless insurance shops try to sell you on electrical goods when the warranty already covers any problems.
This is not useless insurance. The placebo effect means that it's worthwhile because it gives you the sense of being protected. What's that you say? Just tell them about the existing warranty? They don't believe in warranties....they'd rather take insurance. Doesn't work you say? It does, as described, it makes them feel safe. Cutting your wrists you say? Take a sugar pill and calm down.
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Old 23.08.2011, 11:15
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Perhaps in the grand scheme of things it's not such a bad thing - patient requests homeopathy, goes away, doesn't get better, returns to doctor, doctor prescribes conventional medicine.
As I understood it, if the remedy isn't working, then it's because it's not the right one for you, another consultation is required, and a different remedy is prescribed, repeat until patient is better and wallet lighter.

I imagine a checklist for these doctors.

Is the patient in danger?

Yes - Prescribe medicine.
No - Sell sugar pills.
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Old 23.08.2011, 11:21
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As I understood it, if the remedy isn't working, then it's because it's not the right one for you, another consultation is required, and a different remedy is prescribed, repeat until patient is better and wallet lighter.
Jesus. Good job they don't do that with conventional medicine.

"Try this paracetamol for your diabetes."
"It didn't work"
"Hmmm... let's give this insulin a go, then."
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Old 23.08.2011, 11:50
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Jesus. Good job they don't do that with conventional medicine.

"Try this paracetamol for your diabetes."
"It didn't work"
"Hmmm... let's give this insulin a go, then."
Hmmm... What would the homeopathic cure for diabetes be?

A very dilute sugar solution soaked onto a sugar pill?

High blood sugar?? Take another pill.
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Old 23.08.2011, 11:55
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W.eoCs

(I diluted my post right down, but I'm sure it must still make sense.)
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W.eoCs

(I diluted my post right down, but I'm sure it must still make sense.)
I feel better already!
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what? Why are they so incredibly expensive

Not if you consider the manufacturing process, and supply chain costs.
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Old 23.08.2011, 12:54
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W.eoCs

(I diluted my post right down, but I'm sure it must still make sense.)
Amazing, "washed down with Oreos and Hi-C". Did you tap that on a leather book?
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As I understood it, if the remedy isn't working, then it's because it's not the right one for you, another consultation is required, and a different remedy is prescribed, repeat until patient is better and wallet lighter.

I imagine a checklist for these doctors.

Is the patient in danger?

Yes - Prescribe medicine.
No - Sell sugar pills.
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Jesus. Good job they don't do that with conventional medicine.

"Try this paracetamol for your diabetes."
"It didn't work"
"Hmmm... let's give this insulin a go, then."
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Hmmm... What would the homeopathic cure for diabetes be?

A very dilute sugar solution soaked onto a sugar pill?

High blood sugar?? Take another pill.

So there you have it above, the idiots guide to misunderstanding Homeopathy and it's application.

C'mon fellas, at least try to understand the basics before you knock it. You are confused, try some Dillerium 30c, just one pill should work. Failing that try Arseholious 200c, both applicable to the same symptoms you exhibit.
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Old 23.08.2011, 13:23
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So there you have it above, the idiots guide to misunderstanding Homeopathy and it's application.

C'mon fellas, at least try to understand the basics before you knock it. You are confused, try some Dillerium 30c, just one pill should work. Failing that try Arseholious 200c, both applicable to the same symptoms you exhibit.

I'm sorry, I completly missed the cold reading, where the homeopath determines what kind of sensitive type the patient would like to be, and assigns a remedy to make the patient feel special. Something chemically sounding perhaps, pratical and strong, throw in a bit of quantum physics to the mix. Or maybe something a little more mysterious, for the unique flower to address their green aura getting a little out of kilter.
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Old 23.08.2011, 13:27
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... the will of the people takes precedence over the scientific research (sigh of relief). ...
I really hope that was a sarcastic sigh! Flat vs Round earth, Creationism vs Evolution, God vs Electrostatic Discharge (lightning bolts), etc, etc, etc. The will of the people is on the whole, not renowned for its' accurate reflections on how things really are! Scientific research attempts to light the way a little bit more in a few areas but is constantly fighting the engrained dogma and pre/misconceptions passed through the generations.

Undeniably, there are unscrupulous scientists and corporations around that try their hardest to capitalise on scientific advancement by whatever means necessary, but then there are unscrupulous tele-evangelists, homeopathic remedy makers, etc, many also also backed by corporations, that do similarly.

That said, homeopathic remedies do seem to have at least two genuinely useful properties: the ability to heal the believers via the placebo effect and the ability to heal the hungover via the rehydrating effect
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Old 23.08.2011, 13:45
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I'm sorry, I completly missed the cold reading, where the homeopath determines what kind of sensitive type the patient would like to be, and assigns a remedy to make the patient feel special. Something chemically sounding perhaps, pratical and strong, throw in a bit of quantum physics to the mix. Or maybe something a little more mysterious, for the unique flower to address their green aura getting a little out of kilter.

No, just a reference lookup in the Homeopathy Materia Medica. It's very simple. Noting the symptoms, gathering the picture, holistic view etc.

It's not Rocket Science
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Old 23.08.2011, 13:48
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It's not Rocket Science
If it were, the rocket would turn out to me an imaginary Kobe beef burger with extra ketchup.
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I really hope that was a sarcastic sigh! Flat vs Round earth, Creationism vs Evolution, God vs Electrostatic Discharge (lightning bolts), etc, etc, etc. The will of the people is on the whole, not renowned for its' accurate reflections on how things really are! Scientific research attempts to light the way a little bit more in a few areas but is constantly fighting the engrained dogma and pre/misconceptions passed through the generations.

Undeniably, there are unscrupulous scientists and corporations around that try their hardest to capitalise on scientific advancement by whatever means necessary, but then there are unscrupulous tele-evangelists, homeopathic remedy makers, etc, many also also backed by corporations, that do similarly.

That said, homeopathic remedies do seem to have at least two genuinely useful properties: the ability to heal the believers via the placebo effect and the ability to heal the hungover via the rehydrating effect

When did you last see a Homeopathic remedy offered as a solution ? They are normally taken as pills methinks. Some remedies come as solutions, but not in the rehydration quantities you talk about. More to the point remedies are more likely to be alchohol based.
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When did you last see a Homeopathic remedy offered as a solution ? They are normally taken as pills methinks. Some remedies come as solutions, but not in the rehydration quantities you talk about. More to the point remedies are more likely to be alchohol based.
UTH 44 words and absolutely no answer
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UTH 44 words and absolutely no answer

What was the question ?
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When did you last see a Homeopathic remedy offered as a solution ? They are normally taken as pills methinks. Some remedies come as solutions, but not in the rehydration quantities you talk about. More to the point remedies are more likely to be alchohol based.
Hair of the dog, then..?
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Hair of the dog, then..?

Hang on, I think I am on to a new proving

Does it matter what dog ? Are little dogs tails better for bigger hangovers ?
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Hang on, I think I am on to a new proving

Does it matter what dog ? Are little dogs tails better for bigger hangovers ?
Well, 'snips and snails and puppy-dogs' tails, that's what little boys are made of'.
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