I have several girlfriends, all of them really attractive, intelligent ... in super jobs here in Zurich, that really find it difficult to meet attractive intelligent English speaking men ...

Now one of these friends has joined www.successmatch.ch based on a recommendation. So if you are are an attractive, intelligent English speaking man could you also join so that she can find you? (She prefers men in their forties, planning to stay in Zuerich, and she is flex about having a family or not ... she is 40 yo, very pretty, a great sense of humour, English and generally someone that anyone would want to spend time with! She is not looking for yet another short term relationship, but really a long term partner (for life!). She likes to ski .... so a skiier would be great.)

Anyone have any other ideas?

Lisa
married, not looking

Not to be a negativist, but I think most of the attractive, intelligent men in their 40s already have an attractive, intelligent wife (a well paying job is not a decisive factor for already well earning intelligen men). This might explain the apparent "lack" of these men in Zurich.

Or unwanted baggage (kids, ex-wife/wives), still lives with mummy...)

Do you mean English as a first language here? It's none of my beeswax obviously, but your chum would seem to be unnecessarily restricting her options if that's the case. Just a thought.

Dear admins, can we have a dating section as well as the one that I requested for brown sugar & self raising flour last week ?

Maybe I'm a cheap bstrd, but 3k seems like an awful lot to join a dating website!

Why don't you bring your friend to Uncle Max's Talaker drinks and meet loads of peeps for free?

OK Guys, This is an interesting topic. I am also single, 40 and new to Zug/Zurich area. There is a website: www.swissfriends.ch
which I have found really useful to meet new people.
Yes, a dating part on this site would be a good idea.
I have also thought about starting a 'dinner group'. Where a meal is arranged in a restaurant, with equal numbers of single people and then see what happens.
If I was to begin something like this would there be any interest??

I agree with DanielL, why people instead of meeting other people in traditional ways need these dating website? I find it horrible and embarassing to meet someone that I don't know with the purpose of a date...

But I forgot I live in one of the most anti-social cities in europe... Zurich

Yes, I agree that these agencies are not the nicest of ways to meet people, BUT, if you are a single female, living in Zug, it is not too easy to walk into bars, go to restaurants etc to meet people. I have arranged a meet up in Zug, and will come over to Zurich at some point, but again, doing this on your own is not that easy!!
There are porbably plenty of single people out there who are in the same position and not sure how to go about meeting other single people, so why not make it easy for them!!

Fabio, DanielL doesn't say he's against Internet dating, he just says he's too cheap to penny up 3K to register.

3k for a dating site? Get out of here. Are people SO desperate to give 3k to meet men or women?

As far as the girl who started this thread, I think your gf is probably looking in the wrong places. Or she is acting really desperate which is a total turn off for men.

I think she will have more luck if she joins clubs that interests her. She needs to have a relaxed attitude about this. Putting up a profile in the internet is a desperate act.

My observation has been that "the intelligent, attractive" women with "super jobs" tend to act not confident and do stuff like having sex at an early stage and then expect the man to take them seriously. If someone does not take themselves seriously and respect themselves, they shouldn't expect others to take them seriously or respect them in any way.

I went clubbing with a "intelligent, attractive" woman who has a "super job" and the way she acted when we were out, turned off many men. Most of the guys walked away from her after having a conversation with her and one guy even shoved her away telling her to leave him alone.

3K?

I might consider setting up my own dating website

I think it depends on what sort of things you are into, yur age etc. There are many that are not into the club scene, travel with work so cannot commit to weekly meets etc, find the gym boring etc. etc. I do agree that it is not the ideal way, but if it means increasing your number of friends, male and female then this can only be good! I would certainly not PAY an extortionate amount, but if this is your only way, then so be it. We are all different

While I agree that clubs and interest groups are a great idea, I think this is a bit harsh. For some people dating agencies might work well, and I'm sure these services are often sucessful. It's too easy for people in relationships, or those who find it easy to form them, to criticise. Mind you, 3k is a bit OTT in my view.

Awhhh shucks.... you precluded all those successful, well educated men not quite in their forties but with a penchant for an older, mature lady partner

Wow. What a simple way to make yourself sound like a sexist chauvenist. Did you ever think that maybe women enjoy sex and should be taken seriously whether they decide to have it or not.?

And your friend was 'shoved' my a man she was talking to and that's okay with you?

Am I the only one who thinks that this is nothing more than just a SPAM?

No, you'll find it deleted soon enough I should imagine.

That is a good point! But is has encouraged a good bit of discussion!

It has! Which might get one thinking to start a dating service for all interested parties. Is the interest relative to status and desperation?