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I think it's terrible to belittle Muslims and suggest they are all war-raging terrorists.

Sorry, it's not really as funny as you might have thought when you clicked submit. I found this threat to be informative.
Oh dear, you've become flustered about something you haven't even understood properly Frank. I wrote nothing about Muslims, war-raging or terrorists. Maybe your sense of irony is still having a lie in this fine Monday morning. Shukrhan.
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And the opposite?

What if I don't choose to wish peace, but war and hell? Does peace have to be upon everyone?
Well you could say this...

عَليكَ اللٌعنةُ يا اَبو جَهل

Or

عَليكَ الجَحِيمُ يا عَكرِمَه

It should draw some hysterical laughs from native Arabic speakers
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Re: Arabic Expressions

My two most useful words from back in the day were:

"emshee" - useful when some annoying street urchin or taxi driver is trying to get your business. As far as I understand it means "go away".

"Baksheesh" - useful when you are in a bind and need to pay off an unscrupulous official or policeman. Say it when you are offering a pack of smokes or some cash. After they accept it, you can then say "emshee" or "shukran gazilan", whichever feels most appropriate.
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Old 20.02.2012, 11:29
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Re: Arabic Expressions

she's lovely, thank you SC!
the small and concrete lessons seem doable.

I have difficulty with that guttural "a" at the end, I'll never be able to pronounce that without undergoing some serious throat surgery, though.

I take it what she speaks is high arabic?


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I quite enjoy watching the videos that Maha does on youtube.

Not just because she is hot.......although that is a major factor.
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I take it what she speaks is high arabic?

I have no idea.........i often watch her videos with the sound off.


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Old 20.02.2012, 11:58
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Re: Arabic Expressions

well, let me know if you find her equally hot MALE counterpart out there...
that might just do wonders for my guttural "a"
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I would say usually. My husband is Lebanese, and a native speaker. However, when we traveled together to Egypt when we were still dating, he was asked to please speak English--at least one local could not understand a word he said!

I know a number of Arabic phrases myself. Unfortunately most of them are NSFW.
in the old days, egyptians expected everyone to speak their dialect as it was aired on all major broadcasters through movies, series, TV productions. Nowadays, they face a fierce competition from syrian, lebanese productions.
Artists from different arabic countries had to sing in egyptian dialect to become popular...that's now over, many of the regional dialects (even from Gulf) are equally understood.
Funny faux pas can happen as the same word could have very different meanings in the regional dialects.
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I have difficulty with that guttural "a" at the end, I'll never be able to pronounce that without undergoing some serious throat surgery, though.
That's easy just pronounce a long english Aaaaahhh and stick a finger or <insert object of your preference> down your throat. Once you get the hang of it, just learn how to tighten your airways so the sound is made without an object being shoved down there

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I take it what she speaks is high arabic?
She's palastenian from what I could gather, so she has a middle eastern accent, if you want to listen to Arabic in a neutral accent, your best bet is dubbed foreign series or dubbed children cartoons / animations.

Neutral accent:


Egyptian accent / dialect:


Middle eastern / (guessing Lebanese / Syrian):
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Old 20.02.2012, 13:17
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Re: Arabic Expressions

thanks for the input, fun and informative! what a shame that misr and mashy have abandoned us, though. we must have frightenend them off...
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Old 20.02.2012, 16:23
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Agree...too much of your postings make it loose value. Therefore I kindly ask you to restrain from posting and keep value for yourself.
I bet it is, I bet it is.

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Re: Arabic Expressions

Very interesting discussions that just brought the spirit of my home country to Switzerland (at least virtually) , where all are talking to all until you don't know who is talking about what and get lost.

So I will contribute same way as misr started.

Other possible ways of greetings in Arabic

Word: Ahlan wa Sahlan (or only Ahlan works as well)

Answer to it: Ahlan Beek for male
Ahlan Beeky for female

How to write it in Arabic
أهلاً و سهلاً

Description

"Ahlan" means "family, kinfolk."
"Sahlan" means "easy or ease."
"wa means and"

so if we want to get what it means, it is something like that "May you arrival be as if you are part of the family, and may all the ease come with your entrance as well (like may your coming brings us blessings)"

So when answering, Ahlan stays always independent on the gender and the number, then beek will change as follows

- a masculine : bika
- a feminine : biki
- plural masculine : bikum
- plural feminine : bikunna

Here is the SchweizerDeutch Arabic of the above
- a masculine : beek
- a feminine : beeki
- plural masculine/feminine : beeku (or beekum)


So Ahlan, Ahlan wa Sahlan, Ahlan beek is a common Arabic hello.


Here in this video, he says Ahlan only on the first word


And this video says ahlan wa sahlan, but it has a bit of accent
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Re: Arabic Expressions

Week days in Arabic



1 Sunday

Aḥad أَحَد
Al-Aḥad الأَحَد (we get used to put the before the day name -- this is "Al" at begining)
Yawm Al-Aḥad يَوْمُ الأَحَدْ (yawm means day, so as if we say the day of the sun )

2 Monday

Ithnayn إِثْنَيْنْ
Al-Ithnayn الإِثْنَيْنْ
Yawm Al-Ithnayn يَوْمُ الإِثْنَيْنْ

3 Tuesday

Thulaathaaʼ ثُلاَثَاءْ
Ath-Thulaathaaʼ الثُّلاَثَاءْ
Yawm Ath-Thulaathaaʼ يَوْمُ الثُّلاَثَاءْ

4 Wednesday

Arba’aa’ أَرْبِعَاء
Al-Arba’aa’ الأَرْبِعَاء
Yawm Al-Arba’aa’ يَوْمُ الأَرْبِعَاءْ

5 Thursday

Khamīs خَمِيْسْ
Al-Khamīs الْخَمِيْسْ
Yawm Al-Khamīs يَوْمُ الْخَمِيْسْ

6 Friday

Jumu’ah جُمْعَة
Al-Jumu’ah الْجُمْعَة
Yawm Al-Jumu’ah يَوْمُ الْجُمْعَة


7 Saturday

Sabt سَبْتْ
As-Sabt السَّبْتْ
Yawm As-Sabt يَوْمُ السَّبْتْ



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Old 21.02.2012, 08:26
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Re: Arabic Expressions

Which one of these two is the correct spelling:
الْجُمْعَة
or
الْجُمُعَة

Wiki link here.
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Re: Arabic Expressions

Both works

In Egypt - we always say the first.
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Re: Arabic Expressions

I guess it's a regional difference in pronounciation...

I would normally say:
الْجَمْعَه

But I know it's the wrong pronounciation, if I pronounce it correctly I would probably get some strange looks

Don't you guys in Egypt say:

اِلْچُمْعَه / اِلْڨُمْعَه


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Re: Arabic Expressions

No in Egypt we dont say "J" -- we say "G" so we say it the same way you say it as well but go not ga -- so we say it at the end "Al Gom'aa"
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No in Egypt we dont say "J" -- we say "G" so we say it the same way you say it as well but go not ga -- so we say it at the end "Al Gom'aa"
Yep that's why I put the Farsi 3 dotted "Jeem" / "Khaaf"
Was just showing off sorry, hopefully it will inspire someone to learn about the Arabic equivalent of vowels.
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Re: Arabic Expressions

nice of you to show in again, mashy!
Love Doctor, I am in AWE of your language skills. just my curiosity: are you a european language speaker who managed to learn arabic? how did you do that??
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Love Doctor, I am in AWE of your language skills. just my curiosity: are you a european language speaker who managed to learn arabic? how did you do that??
Unfortunately not, I am a native Arabic speaker who managed to learn English . So not so impressive lol

Mind you my Arabic is trailing behind now, my Arabic conversations, specially with middle eastern speakers, is very limited and tends to be full of "Erms" and mixed with various European words as I don't know the equivalent in Arabic.

It's not easy to learn, but if you really want to I don't see why you can't. You will probably have to live in one of the countries for a few years and be really dedicated, in the end many people give up before they get anywhere near conversational.
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I guess it's a regional difference in pronounciation...

I would normally say:
الْجَمْعَه
One note I found here that might be interesting,

It might be confusing when saying Friday that way - if it is pronounced Al-gam'a this means university, but I understand that countries have different accent, so hopefully it might be ok where you get used to say it.
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