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Re: AbFab's 10 tips to quit smoking in 10 days

I finally cracked it.. the last habit was with alcohol. Im now over that now. Also I think the increased jogging the last 3 months helped a lot. Body/temple mindset. Anyway - good luck to everyone else.
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Re: AbFab's 10 tips to quit smoking in 10 days

I am now seriously, seriously getting worried about my smoking habits, but have as yet been unable to quit, and it's generally fuelled and exacerbated by when I drink. The problem is i'm very weak-willed when it comes to resisting temptation, and i'm beginning to think that the only way I can cut this out and stop myself dying a horrible death in the next 10 years is by stopping doing both of them for a significant period, which is going to represent a rather radical lifestyle change (not necessarily for the worse). I have also noticed that my eyes are starting to look terrible, like the beginning stages of those "this is how you'll look in 10 years if you carry on doing what you're doing" programmes.

I really need to take stock at the moment, and I really want (need) to summon the will to do what abfab has laid out before it gets too late. Depressing sentiments I know, but I simply can't believe why I continue to smoke despite KNOWING how utterly filthy and destructive to my health and body it is. Sheer madness.
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Old 19.09.2009, 14:48
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I am now seriously, seriously getting worried about my smoking habits, but have as yet been unable to quit, and it's generally fuelled and exacerbated by when I drink. The problem is i'm very weak-willed when it comes to resisting temptation, and i'm beginning to think that the only way I can cut this out and stop myself dying a horrible death in the next 10 years is by stopping doing both of them for a significant period, which is going to represent a rather radical lifestyle change (not necessarily for the worse). I have also noticed that my eyes are starting to look terrible, like the beginning stages of those "this is how you'll look in 10 years if you carry on doing what you're doing" programmes.

I really need to take stock at the moment, and I really want (need) to summon the will to do what abfab has laid out before it gets too late. Depressing sentiments I know, but I simply can't believe why I continue to smoke despite KNOWING how utterly filthy and destructive to my health and body it is. Sheer madness.
Unfortunately, that's the nature of the addiction. I believe it is stronger in some people than in others....

I quit a few years ago using a prescription from the doctor (called Zyban in the US, can't remember what it was called here), which worked - almost like magic, really. I quit for a couple of years, but then stress reared its very stressful ugly head and I succumbed again.

I've got a rough date for myself when I'll quit (again), but it isn't till after I've moved early next year.
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You don't need books read or tapes to listen to or hypnotism.
I don't agree. The book of Allen Carr definitely helps. It helps because it nails down all excuses people find to smoke, it makes you realize you are not a free person any more. I found it really helpful in quitting.

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[*]Chose your time. It's pointless trying with a holiday coming up and meals out with other smokers. A milestone in life can help. But equally it could be today.
Disagree. If you want to quit, why waiting? Cigarettes won't help you pass your exam or meet the work's deadline anyway.

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[*]Don't quit alone. If you have a partner who smokes or co-worker(s). It will be so much easier if you both quit together.
True, being together with someone else would help. But one should quite nevertheless, also alone, in the end it's your own challenge.

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[*]Don't quit overnight. Some claim to have done this. I couldn't.
I tried many times reducing the number of cigarettes, always failed. The only way was to quit all together.

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[*]Change you habits. If you usually have a cigarette with a coffee, then have a tea or water instead. If you usually sit at the table and smoke after a meal, get up and do the washing up instead. Socially, you should avoid places where you usually smoked until you have really quit.
Break all the times in the day when you usually smoke. If you usually smoke at the tram stop, stand somewhere else, or walk to the next stop instead. Simple tricks, but they work.
These could help at the beginning, but hey, I don't want to give up my habits for the cigarettes, I'd still be slave of them.

I agree with all your other tips.

The best one for me was to think that I started to smoke because so many other people did it, and it felt like there was something cool about it, without knowing that almost all of those people wanted to quit!
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Re: AbFab's 10 tips to quit smoking in 10 days

Allen Carr's book is great, after reading it you don't have any excuses anymore. It dissects and shoots down all the rationalizations smokers use - be it consciously or subconsciously - to keep up their habit. It helped me a great deal when I was quitting. However, you have to want to quit. I've seen people take that book on almost as a challenge, like, "I dare you to make me quit smoking!" and then act all high and mighty in their hopelessness when it didn't take. Well, of course it's not going to work with that mindset, genius. If you truly deep down in your mind believe that you're destined to smoke forever, then no book, gum, or patch is going to change that.

Quitting smoking, like losing weight, is a process everyone needs to undertake by first ridding themselves of the notion that it will be simple. It won't be simple, it will be taxing for your mind and body, and you will need willpower. However, past all that, the actual process is easy and straight forward from a logistical point of view (literally not smoking anymore, or eating less and exercising more), and don't let anyone tell you that it isn't. They're just rationalizing.
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Old 05.01.2011, 12:23
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Re: AbFab's 10 tips to quit smoking in 10 days

I've bought the Allen Carr book, printed off AbFab's guide to quitting and hope that within 10 days I can come back and say that I have quit! Fingers crossed
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Don't quit alone
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Don't quit overnight
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Exercise
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Tell everyone you are quitting.
Quitting will be a massive achievement
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Considering the above suggestions from AdFab's list, why not use EF and the others here in a similar situation to do it together. Make series of social events over 10 days for example to say go for walks / eat something healthy etc. or just make a thread to follow progress of all those 'joining in'. You have then the peer pressure to continue, can help / encourage each other and can also celebrate your achievements together at the end.

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Old 05.01.2011, 12:39
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Re: AbFab's 10 tips to quit smoking in 10 days

I picked the filthy habit up again after moving here. It seemed like even children and dogs smoked here, and i just couldn't escape it.
Coupled with the stresses associated to moving somewhere new on your own and realising that virtually your entire single 'social' circle revolved around cigarettes I thought "why not"....... it was a good idea at the time.

In hindsight, this is all a reflection on weakness and you will always find a reason to do it.... even that mild form of "Schizophrenia"* you develop when you are trying to quit is all a matter of your own self determination and a test of will power.

Ultimately, you will never succeed unless you absolutely convince yourself that you are going to quit.... not just 'want to' or 'should' or '....for someone else'.

*you know what I mean:
"go on, just one won't hurt"
"no one will know"
"you've been pretty good so far, you deserve it"
"just to take the stress out, then I won't feel like one"
....... it's madness.
.........................and all great reasons to take control of your life again.

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Break the habit. Don't drink beer. Try a gin and tonic or someother new drink you don't associate with smoking a cigarette...
unfortunately, I associated all alcohol and caffiene with cigarettes.
I'm sure as hell not giving up alcohol or coffee though.... otherwise I'll have no mates and no job..... the ciggies have to go.

Beer is preeeeety boring without a smoke though.

Smoking is also a brilliant social tool to chat to chicks.....

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How many years of non smoking before lungs fully recover? Would lungs of an X-smoker who has not smoked for 20 years be same as a person who never smoked?
Who cares..... they will always be better than someone has hasn't quit.
I think Nicky said about 5 years, and AbFab said it will depend on the circumstances. In all cases, you feel better immediately.
The main thing is that your lungs WILL regenerate when you quit, so the sooner you start the better.

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This is a key point, don't have cigarettes lying around the house.
Yep, I went snowboarding on the weekend and found a full deck and lighter in my pocket when buying a coffee...... it was tough.
.... I gave the whole packet and lighter to a bunch of young blokes who were standing around having a smoke. They were greatful, and I alleviated my deamons.

@AbFab: This is a great thread and thanks for posting it.
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Old 05.01.2011, 13:49
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Re: AbFab's 10 tips to quit smoking in 10 days

Now is a significant time to quit smoking - a new year.

I doesn't matter that we are some days into the year, in fact with New Year celebrations January 1 is a hard time to stop right on the dot of midnight. But now you are throwing out the tree and packing up the decorations - time to to throw out the habit and pack up smoking too!
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  1. Tell everyone you are quitting. This will
    a) stop them offering you cigarettes. And
    b) make you commitment to quitting stronger as you will not want to lose face by failure. You might even post here if you are going to quit.
My record of ciggs per day was 30. Over the years, I've managed to reduce it and right now, I am at 15 max a day. I cant seem to get any lower. I've only tried giving up once - cold turkey - for 22 hours Other than that, I've never ever seen the need to quit (which is why I've previously restrained myself from posting on this thread) even though I know its bad for me, but I enjoy it.

But enough is enough. I refuse to be the one that everyone associates with getting a fag, or borrow a lighter from. I refuse to subject my loved ones to my moodiness when I am craving for a cigg or refrain from taking long flights and knocking myself out with drugs just to curb my cravings. I refuse to be the old lady in her 70s (if I manage to live that long) with a cigg. Not pretty.

Taking the above advice from AbFab, I am taking my first step in the positive direction, announcing that I am quitting. I endeavour to be cigg-free by the end of this year.

Having been a regular smoker for the past 15 years, I recognised that it is going to be a difficult path. So I am going to take baby steps to get there. Expect alot of whinging, and grumpiness from me in the near future.

Now, who is with me?
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Now, who is with me?
Me
I've been successively cutting down since last August and am now down to between 5 - 8 a day. Christmas and New Year were bad - went back up to 10 - 12.

I'm now sitting here, munching away on my chewing gum and resolving to get rid of this stupid dangerous habit this year.
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Old 05.01.2011, 14:27
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I've been successively cutting down since last August and am now down to between 5 - 8 a day. Christmas and New Year were bad - went back up to 10 - 12.

I'm now sitting here, munching away on my chewing gum and resolving to get rid of this stupid dangerous habit this year.
Brilliant!

My next step is to just have 8 sticks available to me for the entire day from my usual 15, and gradually decrease my need for nicotine in months to come. Need to start identifying those habitual smoke breaks too!
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Now, who is with me?
".......... I'll be your Huckelberry"

Yep, it's kind of good to know that I won't be miserable by myself.

I've already been trying to cut back to help with the cold turkey syndrome...... it does bugger all with a cold beer in your hand and nothing in the other..... feels like a balance issue
(may need another beer in the other hand then)
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Re: AbFab's 10 tips to quit smoking in 10 days

I stopped yesterday. Cold Turkey

Not much of a smoker to begin with, but addictive personality.

No plans of making it permanent, but we'll see how long it lasts. The toughest part is after having a bit of alcohol in my system to cloud judgements.
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Brilliant!

My next step is to just have 8 sticks available to me for the entire day from my usual 15, and gradually decrease my need for nicotine in months to come. Need to start identifying those habitual smoke breaks too!
My method: I've got a beautiful old-fashioned cigarette etui from my grandfather. I take my daily "ration" out of the pack and put it into the etui, together with a slip of paper.

EVERY SINGLE CIGGIE is noted on that piece of paper = date & time. That way, if I've got a craving, I just take a look at when my last ciggie was and how many I've got left for today. It also makes smoking a bit more complicated than usual, meaning that I just have one when I've got time to do the whole writing-down bit.

Smoking in the car is a big no-no (I chucked the ashtray out), when I'm watching TV upstairs in the living room, my ciggies are downstairs in the kitchen. If I want one, I have to get up, go downstairs, write it down, go back up, etc. etc.

I also bought the Nicorette gums (first 4 mg, now since November 2 mg). I have absolutely no compunction whatsoever about chewing those, even if they do contain nicotine. It's the habit of SMOKING that I want to get rid of, and once those automatic moves towards a cigarette are gone 99% of the battle will have been won.

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I've already been trying to cut back to help with the cold turkey syndrome...... it does bugger all with a cold beer in your hand and nothing in the other..... feels like a balance issue
(may need another beer in the other hand then)
I know myself that I will not be able to do cold turkey. I'll probably end up smoking even more as a form of vengence if I fall off the wagon.

We'll allow ourselves one stick at the viaduct though Bill - or beer in the other hand is also a good idea

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My method: I've got a beautiful old-fashioned cigarette etui from my grandfather. I take my daily "ration" out of the pack and put it into the etui, together with a slip of paper.

EVERY SINGLE CIGGIE is noted on that piece of paper = date & time. That way, if I've got a craving, I just take a look at when my last ciggie was and how many I've got left for today. It also makes smoking a bit more complicated than usual, meaning that I just have one when I've got time to do the whole writing-down bit.

Smoking in the car is a big no-no (I chucked the ashtray out), when I'm watching TV upstairs in the living room, my ciggies are downstairs in the kitchen. If I want one, I have to get up, go downstairs, write it down, go back up, etc. etc.

I also bought the Nicorette gums (first 4 mg, now since November 2 mg). I have absolutely no compunction whatsoever about chewing those, even if they do contain nicotine. It's the habit of SMOKING that I want to get rid of, and once those automatic moves towards a cigarette are gone 99% of the battle will have been won.
Yeap, thats one of my bad habits too - light up in the car when I am stuck in slow traffic. Off to get some nicorette gum this afternoon. Are they easily available from the apotheke?
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Re: AbFab's 10 tips to quit smoking in 10 days

If it's any help to those of you planning to give up, I know people both here and in the U.K. who have been life-long heavy smokers for over fifty years and have given up in exactly the same way. One hasn't smoked for three years and the other for five.

They were the people who were most determined to never give up their habit out of all the smokers I know who are still alive.

They gave up in exactly the same way:

1. They visited the doctor for a check up and were told that they would die in the next few years if they didn't give up smoking.
2. They both were prescribed Zyban.

Worth a consideration for those hardened life long smokers.

Interesting, they both look better, feel better and wish they had given up years before.

All the other life-long smokers are now dead from smoking related diseases such as lung cancer. I don't know a single one still alive.
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2. They both were prescribed Zyban.
Has anyone any experience first hand with Zyban? or even managed to get Zyban from any Swiss doctors over here? A few of my friends have quit thanks to this drug but I am not sure if there are any side effects.
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Re: AbFab's 10 tips to quit smoking in 10 days

I've now smoked only once in just over 2 weeks... getting back into doing weights and regular exercise is imo the key to dropping the habit, I don't even feel like going out drinking at the moment. It feels so much better in general being smoke-free too... no nasty smell on your fingers, breath doesn't taste of crap, cardio is improving bit by bit. Hopefully I can make it through the next couple of months with only one or two mishaps and then I want to get to the stage where I never want to touch one again.

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Has anyone any experience first hand with Zyban? or even managed to get Zyban from any Swiss doctors over here? A few of my friends have quit thanks to this drug but I am not sure if there are any side effects.
I'll ask them about side effects and other experiences but to be honest, the almost immediate benefits felt probably outweigh any side effects.
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