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Sony are B*st*rds!

Lik-Sang.com Out of Business due to Multiple Sony Lawsuits

Not content to insult their customers with their pricing of PS3, making it illegal to modify a PS2, or the saga of the combusting batteries, there's this. Global corporation taking steps to screw customers on price.

Is Play Asia next?
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Old 24.10.2006, 20:57
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Re: Sony are B*st*rds!

And let's not forget the rootkit...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_So...ection_scandal
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Old 24.10.2006, 21:00
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Re: Sony are B*st*rds!

And yet another reason I won't be buying a PS3, or a PSP for that matter.
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Old 24.10.2006, 23:08
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Re: Sony are B*st*rds!

ah the rootkit that needed XP running with admin rights (so everyone with Home then?) and not running Slysoft software?
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Old 26.10.2006, 22:02
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Re: Sony are B*st*rds!

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=35354 - "One trick Sony". why isn't their share price getting a hammering?
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Old 26.10.2006, 23:49
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Re: Sony are B*st*rds!

Well, I don't think M$ is about to be outdone. Vista will take DRM to the next level and some. I have heard that the EU won't accept the EULA for Vista in its existing form, so that might delay it for a while.
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Re: Sony are B*st*rds!

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Lik-Sang.com Out of Business due to Multiple Sony Lawsuits

Not content to insult their customers with their pricing of PS3, making it illegal to modify a PS2, or the saga of the combusting batteries, there's this. Global corporation taking steps to screw customers on price.

Is Play Asia next?
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Your topic title seems to imply you LIKE Sony products but don't like to pay for them in their price-range or like the way they manage their product protection.
YOU have a choice, don't buy Sony.
Goto XboX or Nintendo, they are not bad either.



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Old 01.11.2006, 19:34
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Re: Sony are B*st*rds!

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Your topic title seems to imply you LIKE Sony products but don't like to pay for them in their price-range or like the way they manage their product protection.
That's not far off the mark. I've got a Sony MD player, a PlayStation and a PS2. The PS2 was sort of free though. I am unlikely to pick up a PS3 for a while because of the cost and the fact that at launch there will probably not be enough titles to justify the cost. (There never are for new consoles). I almost bought the Sony a100 DSLR, though I ended up buying the Nikon D80.

I'm not so anti-Sony I won't buy from them. I reserve that sort of behaviour for McDonald's and Microsoft.

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YOU have a choice, don't buy Sony.
I sure do have a choice. You're right. But I still think it's very anti-consumer for allow Sony to behave like that and put Lik-Sang out of business. I used them as well as other businesses like Play Asia. The whole business of region coding hurts the consumer. It can also hurt Sony. Many USA PS2 games have not been released in Europe because of some sort of pissing contest between Sony US and Sony Europe.

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I would never buy a Xbox or any other Microsoft product for that matter.

But I am a bit of a Nintendo fanboy. Got a GBA, modified with a sort of TV adaptor I imported from Canada with a power supply that smells of ozone and gets very warm. And a GBA SP. And a Nintendo DS Lite (a white one I imported from Japan from YesAsia). And a Gamecube. I'll probably get a Wii and the new Zelda game.

I'll stop now.
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Old 01.11.2006, 19:51
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Re: Sony are B*st*rds!

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That's not far off the mark. I've got a Sony MD player, a PlayStation and a PS2. The PS2 was sort of free though. I am unlikely to pick up a PS3 for a while because of the cost and the fact that at launch there will probably not be enough titles to justify the cost. (There never are for new consoles). I almost bought the Sony a100 DSLR, though I ended up buying the Nikon D80.

I'm not so anti-Sony I won't buy from them. I reserve that sort of behaviour for McDonald's and Microsoft.

I sure do have a choice. You're right. But I still think it's very anti-consumer for allow Sony to behave like that and put Lik-Sang out of business. I used them as well as other businesses like Play Asia. The whole business of region coding hurts the consumer. It can also hurt Sony. Many USA PS2 games have not been released in Europe because of some sort of pissing contest between Sony US and Sony Europe.

I would never buy a Xbox or any other Microsoft product for that matter.

But I am a bit of a Nintendo fanboy. Got a GBA, modified with a sort of TV adaptor I imported from Canada with a power supply that smells of ozone and gets very warm. And a GBA SP. And a Nintendo DS Lite (a white one I imported from Japan from YesAsia). And a Gamecube. I'll probably get a Wii and the new Zelda game.

I'll stop now.

I am waiting for the PS3, but will wait at least 1 year for product to stabilise and price to drop a little.
I just started GTA (Liberty City Stories) this afternoon. Nice.
I bought it from play.com , as with all my PS2 games.
I did not mod the PS2 and don't feel the need to.
I just wait for the game prices to drop after 1 year.

Sony is a corporation whose main goal is to make money for their shareholders. Their sales tactics may not seem fair to some of us, but it is their product and their copyrights. If some of us don't like it, we can simply don't buy their products. No point saying and not doing.

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Old 01.11.2006, 19:55
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Re: Sony are B*st*rds!

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No point saying and not doing.
If by that you mean there's no point complaining about their antics without boycotting their products, then I disagree. I don't see it as a black and white situation. One needs a threshold.

An analogy: one wouldn't leave one's job just because one disagreed with one's manager or a management decision.
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Old 01.11.2006, 20:13
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Re: Sony are B*st*rds!

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If by that you mean there's no point complaining about their antics without boycotting their products, then I disagree. I don't see it as a black and white situation. One needs a threshold.

An analogy: one wouldn't leave one's job just because one disagreed with one's manager or a management decision.
I do agree that there are different thresholds for different people for different situations.
You also mentioned Microsoft products, so I assume you are not using Microsoft windows right now? Or it is one of those grey zones?

Your analogy is a good one. If the person disagrees with the manager, he should tell the manager, and reason it out. If it becomes very serious, then the 2 parties should really say good bye and go their own ways.

Staying in the job will eventually make both parties unhappy and counter-productive, better end the relationship now, rather than complain to your friends how shitty or diagreeable your manager is.

Now let me assume a scenario. Sony suddenly realised what an important customer you are, and gives you unlimited access to their products and you can take any product you like at 50% off the retail price (new or old products), will you still say Sony are bastards? They even extend this to anyone you recommend to them. Now what?

Personally, after I received my first salary, I begin to "pay" for my games and sony gadgets, rather than complain about how unfair or how pricey they are.
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Re: Sony are B*st*rds!

I have a few reasons for staying away from the PS3. Firstly, the price. Secondly, I had a playstation that broke after warranty, and I had to purchase a new one. I had a playstation 2 that broke after warranty. I've never had a Nintendo system break, and I've owned them all.
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Re: Sony are B*st*rds!

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I do agree that there are different thresholds for different people for different situations.
You also mentioned Microsoft products, so I assume you are not using Microsoft windows right now? Or it is one of those grey zones?
You assume right. I don't do windows at home.

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Now let me assume a scenario. Sony suddenly realised what an important customer you are, and gives you unlimited access to their products and you can take any product you like at 50% off the retail price (new or old products), will you still say Sony are bastards? They even extend this to anyone you recommend to them. Now what?
Under those circumstances I'd have to reconsider my position. Not sure how long it would take to recommend the whole world's population to Sony though. And then they'd probably call me a B*st*rd .
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I have a few reasons for staying away from the PS3. Firstly, the price. Secondly, I had a playstation that broke after warranty, and I had to purchase a new one. I had a playstation 2 that broke after warranty. I've never had a Nintendo system break, and I've owned them all.
Pity about the PS2, mine broke at about 14 months, I went to Schlieren, they told me to go home and CALL them on telephone. I did, the replacement came about 3 days later, with a DHL man delivering a brand new PS2, and taking back the old one (fullset). No questions asked.
1 DVD was "stuck" in the PS2, they promptly returned it to me later on registered mail.
That DVD was an all-region pirated copy of...notsure what the title was then, from Malaysia.
They did not arrest me.


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You assume right. I don't do windows at home.



Under those circumstances I'd have to reconsider my position. Not sure how long it would take to recommend the whole world's population to Sony though. And then they'd probably call me a B*st*rd .
Don't be mistaken, I was also in your exact shoes a while back.
But once I got over the fact that they make consoles to feed their inventors and their families and small children, I think I will gladly pay.
Sony is not a charity.

If it is too pricey (like PS3), then DON'T buy.
Simple.

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