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Well, apparently you can. And it spreads and it seems popular.

It does point out to semantics and definition of what atheism actually means to different people. And entrepreneurs, obviously.



Just shows people like their rituals. It's been modeled from a successful model, it gives people what they need. How you call it, is at the end completely irrelevant. Meeting like minded people, doing preset routines, following rituals that make people happy, it does not seem to me the actual content is that important aside of the negation - just shows that some people view atheism as denial of god as a creator, but do not necessarily need to promote themselves as being the creators of their reality.

Semiatheists.

(I will coin it later)
To be fair, a huge proportion of the congregation at our local Church in the UK falls in the same category- in as much as they don't really believe in the scriptures or the Trinity, or the resurection- or much at all. But they've become 'cultural Christians' who like to go for a sing-song, to fulfill a social need to belong and to share, for ceremonies like baptisms (useful to get in the local CofE school), weddings (it's pretty on the video, isn't it) and for the comfort for funerals, etc. Used to be the case here too- until the vote to make Church tax optional- and that large section just vanished
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Old 30.09.2014, 12:09
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Just shows people like their rituals.
So why can't they meet in a park, on a walk, in a coffee shop? They could even do it regularly on a Sunday morning if they wished.

What do these people have in common? Absolutely nothing.

If you want to list things that people don't believe in then it's going to be a very long list so why is this particular 'belief' so important?
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Old 30.09.2014, 13:02
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I think you're right here.

There's even been a schism in this Sunday Assembly which, and here's the important point, must have been driven by one or more people who had a bit more 'authority' over the others.

It's these sorts of people who will become the 'church leaders' and others will follow them and probably end up worshiping them to some degree.

It's all a bit creepy and I can't see it ending well.
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Don't you think there's a clue in the founders?
Yes, this is either a joke or these people are a little misguided.
'Atheist Church' is a contradiction in terms surely, a church is a place for religious activities, in particular Christian.
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Old 30.09.2014, 13:06
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Yes, something like that. It's very sad that in some cultures the idea that you have to have some sort of religion, and celebration thereof, that it leaves a market open for this sort of charlatanism to jump onto.

Your conclusion that this stupid manipulated bunch somehow represent atheism, as if it were a thing that could be represented anyway, is about on a par with suggesting that Jim Jones was representative of Christianity.
But don't you understand that not collecting stamps is not a hobby, even if the non-collector has a bank vault of empty stamp albums and regularly attends stamp non-collector meetings and stamp non-auctions.
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Old 30.09.2014, 13:13
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Just shows people like their rituals. It's been modeled from a successful model, it gives people what they need. ..., doing preset routines, following rituals that make people happy,
sounds like strip clubs?
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Old 30.09.2014, 13:31
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To be fair, a huge proportion of the congregation at our local Church in the UK falls in the same category- in as much as they don't really believe in the scriptures or the Trinity, or the resurection- or much at all. But they've become 'cultural Christians' who like to go for a sing-song, to fulfill a social need to belong and to share, for ceremonies like baptisms (useful to get in the local CofE school), weddings (it's pretty on the video, isn't it) and for the comfort for funerals, etc. Used to be the case here too- until the vote to make Church tax optional- and that large section just vanished
Pretty much the same in most churches, was my observation of the many different denominations I`ve attended.

Folk seem to need someone to lead them, so they don`t have to do any thinking for themselves?

What they all have in common however, is the "collection" plate/pail/hat to throw money into inserted somewhere in the gathering.

I find it amusing when totally non-religious people want to "perform" their weddings in churches, or have funerals with preachers and hymns.
Much the same idea as a Christian choosing to have a Hindu wedding ceremony, or a Voo-doo style funeral? Like play-acting a cast in a theatre production?

This world is getting crazier by the day
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