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Old 20.09.2015, 14:12
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Just an observation

….Just changed jobs recently, started with the so-called "gaming industry" here on Malta, if there is one sector that is booming at the moment it's gaming and gambling. Companies can't get enough warm bodies to handle the service and complaint calls. Good for me as they don't give a shit about age, just that you have two braincells to rub together, everything else is `Mela.`
Now the observation…. The worst a recession the more people gamble, more job uncertainty, deeper in debt, you name it, people who can't afford it, are on benefits, can't pay rent, feed their children, they gamble, and lose and play and lose again.
Each mail I read tells a story, woman wants her money back because she has gambled everything she had for the month and now has nothing left to feed the kids. Every few days at least one threatening to commit suicide. Death threats against me personally from some bugger demanding me to let him win.
WTF? Whatever happend to personal responsibility?
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Old 20.09.2015, 14:16
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Re: Just an observation

Now you see why they can't get those "warm bodies". You probably won't want to be doing this for long...
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Re: Just an observation

Isn't gambling an addiction like drugs or alcohol? So don't blame them that much, they actually need help.
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Old 20.09.2015, 14:30
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Now you see why they can't get those "warm bodies". You probably won't want to be doing this for long...
Just need to get your morals and compassion drunk then you can do it without a problem.
At the end of the day those who gamble are grown-ups.
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Old 20.09.2015, 14:32
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Isn't gambling an addiction like drugs or alcohol? So don't blame them that much, they actually need help.
Not really, it's like everything else, up to a point it's fun and entertainment, how many gamble on the stock market? At what point does that become an addiction from people needing help?
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Re: Just an observation

If they wouldn't have a gambling-problem, they'd be on something else.

And people had gambling-problems well before the invention of the computer.
There's probably a PhD-thesis or two about the history of gambling addictions through the middle-ages and beyond...
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Old 20.09.2015, 14:51
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Isn't gambling an addiction like drugs or alcohol? So don't blame them that much, they actually need help.
For some, but not most, people it has been shown that an abnormal brainwave response to losing boosts their desire to continue, so on that sense it can be classed as a physical addiction, yes.

But just as with drugs or alcohol it doesn't absolve the individual from personal responsibility. Yes, in some senses they are victims, but victims of circumstances that they've brought themselves into, eyes wide open, as it were. Yes, they need help, but they first need to start helping themselves.
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Old 20.09.2015, 18:43
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For some, but not most, people it has been shown that an abnormal brainwave response to losing boosts their desire to continue, so on that sense it can be classed as a physical addiction, yes.

But just as with drugs or alcohol it doesn't absolve the individual from personal responsibility. Yes, in some senses they are victims, but victims of circumstances that they've brought themselves into, eyes wide open, as it were. Yes, they need help, but they first need to start helping themselves.
What caught me by surprise is the amount of people who actually realize they have a problem and tell us to do something about it.
We can for one limit what they deposit, then suspend their account for a period of X days, or weeks or months, then we can close their accounts permanently. Then, having done that, after two or three days, they are back begging for their permanently and irrevocably closed account to be reopened.
So even when they accept their addiction and do something about it it means nothing at all.
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….Just changed jobs recently, <snip...>
Now the observation…. The worst a recession the more people gamble, more job uncertainty, deeper in debt, you name it, people who can't afford it, are on benefits, can't pay rent, feed their children, they gamble, and lose and play and lose again.
Congratulations on the new job...

IIRC from my days in politics, the image of James Bond gambling in black tie in a casino is a bit of a false one. In my expeditions to conventionland (aka Las Vegas) my experience is the most of the people on the floors are gambling relatively modestly and with restraint. Most of the social theory folk seem to think that people who are poor tend to gamble more as a percentage of their available income since it appears "easy money". Online gambling makes this worse since in the days of the bookies, there was at least a warm body who could tell the problem gamblers to go. Bit like the barman saying that someone has had enough and should go home.

Insipid really.
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Re: Just an observation

The poorer people are, the more a notional win means to them.

If you earn 200K CHF a year and have an apartment and half a million in the bank, you think "ooo, I could bet big and win 50,000 CHF! I'll ... I'll, err, put it in the bank as I don't need it. Ah well. Forget it".

If you don't earn much, pay rent and have no savings, you think "ooo, I could bet big and win 2,000 CHF! I'll buy nice clothes, go on holiday, put a deposit on a car. I'll change my life! Let's go!". So they blow all their monthly money, say 500 CHF, to win what to them is a life change.

It's usually the poor who buy lottery tickets etc - always the way.

Plus, people who rely on the government for financial (or any, I suppose, although I've put no thought into that) assistance learn that their life is in someone else's hands and hence feel entitled. Whole unemployed families get that way, especially in the UK. If you feel entitled and that everything is someone else's responsibility, then of course it's support hot-line Slammer's fault they lost their money playing blackjack because they forgot how to count up to 22.
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