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Old 21.09.2015, 10:59
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The writers thread, show us your work.

Seems to be a lot of writers threads at the moment, so I thought I would start my very own, but feel free to join in at anytime.
I have three out on kindle at the moment, gonna be a fourth one out soon and a fifth is about half way through. (kind of a gender-swap-clone-3D-Printer-thing)
All are kind of, well 18+ but over 18's are lot of fun to write, however judging from others on the KDP (Kindle direct publishing) forum it would seem that my covers don't quite hit the spot, most consumers of these kind of stories are female and they don't want cover art they want to see bare chested guys holding a broad.
Ah well, they say it takes about 20 to 30 stories out before you get noticed, so I have put the order for my luxury yacht on hold for a while.
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Old 21.09.2015, 17:37
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Re: The writers thread, show us your work.

Congratulations on your publications.

They say it might take years to build overnight success, but no one can take away that feeling of holding your book(s) in your hands, seeing all the hard work paying off in a big way

A couple of self-promo tips one of my first publishers gave me:

Print out postcards with your book cover and a short blurb. You can hand them out to libraries, churches, indy bookstores, colleagues, random people you strike up a conversation with..

Put together reading appearances at local libraries, coffee shops, bars, conventions, colleges etc.

Do blog tours. Get in touch with other authors&reviewers and kindly ask them to host you. You can let them interview you, offer a sample of the book and so on. Prepare a media kit.

Host giveaways to local colleges, churches, libraries, bookstores, writers you admire and readers. Use social media to promote these events.

This one is rather hard without an established publisher on your side but approach local newspapers, TV and radio and ask them to feature you and your book. A unique book, especially one that has a connection to the local community is likely to get attention from the media.

And finally, stay in touch with your favorite writers, as well as your readers. For example, if you write SciFi, try to talk to at least one person per day on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram etc who mentions s/he reads SciFi.

Read other people's work in your genre and comment on it. I'm of the opinion that a good writer needs to be a major reader.

I wish you all the best for your future endeavors.
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Old 21.09.2015, 17:54
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Re: The writers thread, show us your work.

True, but these are straight to Kindle and they are all about different ways to put "Tab A" int o "Slot B" so unless I hold a promo in a pornshop I doubt I´ll get much positive resonance by hosting giveaways to local colleges, churches, libraries, bookstores:-)
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Old 22.09.2015, 18:46
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Re: The writers thread, show us your work.

Congratulations on getting finished work out there!


However... I don't think it's a coincidence that Justine Elyot and EL James' covers look like they do. There's a reason that following the phenomenal success of Terry Pratchett and JK Rowlings (and publishers finally realising that they weren't just being read by kids or a niche market) that they also produced front covers that were a little more sophisticated, more "art", to use your word. Many books with hard-to-categorise genres increasing seem to opt for the simpler cover approach - We are Simply Beside Ourselves by Karen Joy Fowler being one. And there's one I remember that is actually part of the zombie-thriller sub-genre that looks like its anything but from the cover (it's black and yellow and quite "pretty" I suppose) but I cannot for the life of me remember what the thing is called.... Anyway, my point is that if we are not exactly going to judge a book by its cover then we at least need to be attracted by it. Or, when it comes to certain genres, we want to be able to read them on the tram/train/plane/in our Nan's house without people rushing to judgement... whether they be they zombie-themed, YA, bodice-rippers, steampunk or, "adult." I'm voracious reader and genre really isn't an issue for me - I just have to be intrigued enough to read it - and like it or not, the cover, the blurb and then the first page has to sell it to me. It has to look like it knows its market, like it knows what it is. And it has to look professional.


So, from one "broad" who reads an awful lot - and a lot of awful - perhaps tweaking your next cover may be an idea?


BTW - I read your book that's currently on Kindle unlimited and "sneak peaked" the others. Happy to provide feedback here or via PM if you'd like any? At the risk of offending, and I already appear to be at the penny/pound border, did you edit the manuscripts yourself before uploading? Getting someone else to read your stuff (or reading it aloud, slowly) is an idea to catch any punctuations gaps etc. Don't get me wrong, it's easy to sit here typing this as I haven't got anything out in the world (nothing fiction, anyway) but it may help. As would a pricing rethink, based on the length of your novellas.


Hell, Dan Brown has made a killing - and in my opinion his editor should have been stripped of his editing pen...
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Old 22.09.2015, 18:57
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Re: The writers thread, show us your work.

The Girl With All The Gifts - M R Carey


(the book I couldn't remember earlier...)




Also, The First Fifteen Lives of Harry August (Claire North).

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Old 22.09.2015, 19:36
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Re: The writers thread, show us your work.

I had no idea they were on Kindle unlimited
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Re: The writers thread, show us your work.

Only one is - the Ferry one.
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Old 22.09.2015, 20:11
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Re: The writers thread, show us your work.

Thing with self editing, it's a lot like smelling your own farts, (you know what I mean) what works for you makes others retch, I convert the text to an audio file and upload it to the i-pod, as far as I can see it is the best way to self edit, you hear (most) spelling mistakes or (again most) plot holes or punctuation errors, but it can't completely get rid of some kind of human editing, but finding somebody that can do that kind of stuff is where things get difficult.
At the end of the day it's just modern day pulp that I do hope gets better in time.
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Re: The writers thread, show us your work.

Anything worth doing... as they say.


Lots of bestselling stuff is, arguably "pulp". But then again "pulp fiction" is also more than a Tarantino movie (prefer Reservoir Dogs myself...). Look at (looks around, checks, whispers) Twilight and it's red-headed step child "Fifty Shades..." Can't get much pulpier than either of them.




The thing with audio is, you can't hear punctuation.


Got your PM, will respond later.

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Re: The writers thread, show us your work.

I've self-published one novel, exploring the issue of 'spare' frozen embryos created as a result of the IVF process. Very much PG - not even the mildest swear word for me! I recently updated the cover following some feedback on here - can't remember who it was but they pointed me to fiverr.com and I got a much more professional cover for a very reasonable price. The book has recently been reviewed here (a friend of a friend so no bias involved).

Currently doing research for a detective novel - have a book on forensics from the wonderfully titled 'Howdunit' series of guides for writers sitting waiting to be read!

I'm also planning on writing something more personal based on my experiences as a Christian with depression. Not saying that I have anything unusual happen to me or anything like that - its just that sadly I have come across many well-meaning Christians who have very rigid views on mental illness, treatment etc. ("Are you fully trusting in the Lord to heal you?"), as well as many well-meaning medical professionals who have very narrow views on Christianity ("You're depressed because you're single, a Christian and weird.") I'd like to write something which explains how it feels to come up against both of these attitudes.

In case anyone's interested, here are my before (left) and after (right) book covers:
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Here's my book. Is the title snappy enough, do you think?

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I've self-published one novel, exploring the issue of 'spare' frozen embryos created as a result of the IVF process. Very much PG - not even the mildest swear word for me! I recently updated the cover following some feedback on here - can't remember who it was but they pointed me to fiverr.com and I got a much more professional cover for a very reasonable price. The book has recently been reviewed here (a friend of a friend so no bias involved).

Currently doing research for a detective novel - have a book on forensics from the wonderfully titled 'Howdunit' series of guides for writers sitting waiting to be read!

I'm also planning on writing something more personal based on my experiences as a Christian with depression. Not saying that I have anything unusual happen to me or anything like that - its just that sadly I have come across many well-meaning Christians who have very rigid views on mental illness, treatment etc. ("Are you fully trusting in the Lord to heal you?"), as well as many well-meaning medical professionals who have very narrow views on Christianity ("You're depressed because you're single, a Christian and weird.") I'd like to write something which explains how it feels to come up against both of these attitudes.

In case anyone's interested, here are my before (left) and after (right) book covers:


The "after" one is brilliant - excellent choice. Beautiful, and very "current..."


Congratulations on being published. And I'm sorry you've had some trouble. And that sounds a LOT more trite/patronising than it is meant to... Mental illness (and attitudes towards it) needs a wider discussion, I'd agree.


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Here's my book. Is the title snappy enough, do you think?

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I suppose "meandering journey" would be a little pedestrian... and not as awesomely alliterative.


I had to Google "catamite"...
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