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Re: Anyone else a complete BBC Wildlife / Attenbrough nut?

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I haven't heard of this Attenbrough guy. Is he in the same league as Marlin Perkins and Jim? Better than the Crocodile Hunter? When is he on and what channel?
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Education is of course the best way to stop over-population-
There is no over population
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Re: Anyone else a complete BBC Wildlife / Attenborough nut?

I am not a particular fan of BBC Wildlife documentaries, though I have nothing specific against David Attenbourough.

My main concern with the documentaries are that they are so artificial. They create an impression that is nothing like the reality. They use artificial sound effects, slow motion or speeded up film, scenes filmed in captivity all passed off as reality. The filming may have taken many months yet creates the impression that it is almost in real time.

Overall it portrays an unrealistic view of wildlife. I much prefer to see the less glamorous and more realistic films. To me is is like a lot of photography these days that is manipulated with photoshop, HDR and other trickery
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I am not a particular fan of BBC Wildlife documentaries, though I have nothing specific against David Attenbourough.

My main concern with the documentaries are that they are so artificial. They create an impression that is nothing like the reality. They use artificial sound effects, slow motion or speeded up film, scenes filmed in captivity all passed off as reality. The filming may have taken many months yet creates the impression that it is almost in real time.

Overall it portrays an unrealistic view of wildlife. I much prefer to see the less glamorous and more realistic films. To me is is like a lot of photography these days that is manipulated with photoshop, HDR and other trickery
Whaaaatttt?

We have learned more about animals in the last 10 years of these "new and fancy" techniques than in the previous decades put together! It's not there just for fancy effects, they show specific animal traits in a way which was before simply never even possible, and the slow motion scenes allow us to examine in minute detail the most important parts of animal behaviour. It is true progress and really tells a story in a way which older filming techniques simply didn't allow.

So yeah, I must respectfully disagree.
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The filming may have taken many months yet creates the impression that it is almost in real time.
Well done. The most ludicrous thing I have read for ages.

If for example, you knew anything about the snow leopard, for example, you'd realise that firstly it was really rare, and secondly incredibly elusive, and thirdly, only living in some of the harshest and most remote places on this earth.

So, if it takes the BBC cameramen two years to film five minutes worth of footage of the snow leopard, would you rather sit through one million, fifty-one thousand and two hundred minutes of footage and pray you are awake for the fleeting moment in those two years where the snow leopard appears, or be happy to have that done for you and just watch five minutes of the said snow leopard?
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Whaaaatttt?

We have learned more about animals in the last 10 years of these "new and fancy" techniques than in the previous decades put together! It's not there just for fancy effects, they show specific animal traits in a way which was before simply never even possible, and the slow motion scenes allow us to examine in minute detail the most important parts of animal behaviour. It is true progress and really tells a story in a way which older filming techniques simply didn't allow.

So yeah, I must respectfully disagree.
Some of the techniques may be justified and are educational. My concern is when the use of special effects or not on location filming is used without making it clear.

There have been many examples of fake filming. Here are just a few examples

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/t...man-warns.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/f...ir-david-96593

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...fake-patagonia

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Some of the techniques may be justified and are educational. My concern is when the use of special effects or not on location filming is used without making it clear
If you had the DVDs (like me), you'd be able to see footage of the techniques used to make the films.

Do you think they use CGI or something or are you getting David Attenborough wildlife documentaries confused with Jurassic Park, or Alvin and the Chipmunks?
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Some of the techniques may be justified and are educational. My concern is when the use of special effects or not on location filming is used without making it clear
I know what you mean, I noticed it today in The Hunt when they used some comic sound effects on a preying mantis getting snaffled by a gecko. However for me it only adds to the filming, and I personally think it is abundantly clear that in the occasional instances they use it that it is not the animals real sounds.

BBC Wldlife are able to portray comedy and drama in their wildlife documentaries like no other, and in my eyes it's a good and engaging thing.
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Some of the techniques may be justified and are educational. My concern is when the use of special effects or not on location filming is used without making it clear


[authoritative whisper]... and here, in the middle of the Serengeti, we are privileged to witness a rare sight: the Blue Hatted Guggle Bird taking its first sip of water as part of its mating ritual, a ritual which takes place only once every ten years... numbers of the guggle bird are dropping rapidly every year, as a direct consequence of the overwhelming hordes of little African babies being born every minute - millions upon millions of the teeming little horrors, mouths agape, feeding on the resources of our finite planet like locusts, voracious octopodes or squirrels. If we don't stop them soon, then we'll all be DOOMED! DOOMED! WE CRAWL ON OUR KNEES TO OUR DOOM! WHAT'S FOR SUPPER, MOTHER? YOU LOCKED US IN THE CELLAR AND FED US WITH PINS... LIKE A FLY TRAPPED IN A BOTTLE... BLACK! ALL BLACK! BLACK!
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and here, in the middle of the Serengeti, we are privileged to witness a rare sight: the Blue Hatted Guggle Bird taking its first sip of water as part of its mating ritual, a ritual which takes place only once every ten years... numbers of the guggle bird are dropping rapidly every year, as a direct consequence of the overwhelming hordes of little African babies being born every minute - millions upon millions of the teeming little horrors, mouths agape, feeding on the resources of our finite planet like locusts, voracious octopodes or squirrels. If we don't stop them soon, then we'll all be DOOMED! DOOMED! WE CRAWL ON OUR KNEES TO OUR DOOM! WHAT'S FOR SUPPER, MOTHER? YOU LOCKED US IN THE CELLAR AND FED US WITH PINS... LIKE A FLY TRAPPED IN A BOTTLE... BLACK! ALL BLACK! BLACK![/I]
I think that even I would have sussed that one
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Re: Anyone else a complete BBC Wildlife / Attenborough nut?

Personally I thought it was great in the Planet Earth documentary that David Attenborough managed to capture on film that baby penguin dancing:

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Guys, DB's intentions were, rather predictably, to engage in a light spot of Sunday evening trolling, get people riled, and then go and have his evening tea. This appears to have succeeded, but the sooner you stop rising to the obvious bait (it has to be said Odile, you are a sucker for that, heh) then the sooner we can focus on talking about the focus of the thread, his long years of work as part of the BBC wildlife series. I'll be back when that happens.
Arrghh poor you- I must apologise- Agreeing with me could seriously damage your street cred.

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I am not a particular fan of BBC Wildlife documentaries, though I have nothing specific against David Attenbourough.

My main concern with the documentaries are that they are so artificial. They create an impression that is nothing like the reality. They use artificial sound effects, slow motion or speeded up film, scenes filmed in captivity all passed off as reality. The filming may have taken many months yet creates the impression that it is almost in real time.

Overall it portrays an unrealistic view of wildlife. I much prefer to see the less glamorous and more realistic films. To me is is like a lot of photography these days that is manipulated with photoshop, HDR and other trickery
There's Youtube for what you're after.
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