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Old 11.02.2016, 14:19
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Re: McDonalds for your health

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Let's say a stew serving is 300ml.
No let's say it's not. That is a minuscule amount. Shall we go back to my five litres?


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Heating that, thoroughly, on the stove will take considerably longer than individually zapping each serving.
Will it? - Dangerous cold spots can occur in food in a microwave (which as I mentioned before), don't occur in stove-top cooking).

So, you'll need to take eat portion out of the microwave periodically and give it a stir, and then put it back in again. Shall we say you need to do this three times for each helping?

So, for each of your five helpings, we need to open the microwave door, and close it (apart from the last time) five times.
So that's 21 times to open the door and 20 times to close it.
Plus each pot needs to stand for a few minutes after heating.
And, what happens to the first person's food by the time the last person's is ready? Is it cold or do you all eat separately as well?

And this is better?


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Since you're heating slowly on the stove, that gives more opportunities for bacteria to grow, emit their poisons and make you poorly.
I doubt that happens in reality and if it were the case then those 'slow-cookers' that some people feel the urge to buy must be absolute killers and there can't be anyone left alive who has actually used one.
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Old 11.02.2016, 14:25
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So, you'll need to take eat portion out of the microwave periodically and give it a stir, and then put it back in again. Shall we say you need to do this three times for each helping?
A single stir during a 3 or 4 minute re-heat is perfectly adequate, if necessary at all.
You're just creating pedantry for the sake of it.
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Old 11.02.2016, 14:35
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A single stir during a 3 or 4 minute re-heat is perfectly adequate, if necessary at all.
Are you saying the cold spots don't occur?

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You're just creating pedantry for the sake of it.
No, not really. I'm just trying to understand some people's weird definition of 'better.'

Better for me would be 'easier':

Chuck all in saucepan - full-power induction until starting to boil. Turn down, lid on, forget for fifteen minutes. Stir. Eat.

I'll give you an example:

My espresso machine is a bit of a faff to use:
One needs to grind the beans,
One needs to tamp the grind.
One needs to pre-heat the cup.
One needs to brew the coffee.
One needs to knock out the coffee from the porta filter.

So, a bit of a faff but is it better? Yes, because the coffee tastes better than coffee pods, for example.

So, with microwaves and saucepans, why is a microwave better?

It's not safer.
The food doesn't taste better.
It's probably not quicker.
It involves more steps.
It involves more washing up (unless people eat out of the microwave containers).
According to NotAllThere, you have to cook five portions sequentially rather than all in one go.

So again, why is this better?
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Old 11.02.2016, 14:39
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Are you saying the cold spots don't occur?
In my experience, not all the time, no. If you heat it long enough at a high enough power, the whole dish is plenty hot enough, often too hot to eat immediately.

However, it all depends on the situation; if it's just for myself and maybe one or two others, I'd use the MW all the time. If it's a large pot of stew or curry for several people, then i'd stick it on the stove; the only worry would be not to let it burn.
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Old 11.02.2016, 14:42
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In my experience, not all the time, no. If you heat it long enough at a high enough power, the whole dish is plenty hot enough, often too hot to eat immediately.
I thought cooking baked beans was "idiot-proof" - turns out that's not the case - as we witnessed someone microwave them for 15mins at University.

The following day posters were up from building management indicating "that cooking in the microwave should be closely monitored".
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Old 11.02.2016, 14:46
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Re: McDonalds for your health

Now we've mentioned cold spots in microwaves, shall we talk about hot spots now and how microwaves can be dangerous for warming baby milk?
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Old 11.02.2016, 14:49
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Re: McDonalds for your health

I live by my microwave---for many years didn't even have a stove.


back on topic---McDonalds French fries taste terrible micro-zapped warm, but KFC is still pretty good the next after a zap.
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Old 11.02.2016, 14:53
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Re: McDonalds for your health

Talking of the hazards of MW ovens...
When I was working in the genetics lab in an Oxford hospital, one of the consultant genetics professors was a certain John Edwards, famed for the discovery of Edwards' syndrome, trisomy 18. A brilliant, brilliant man, but your typical absent-minded professor. His wife was going away for a few days and left him instructions on how to use the MW, stating explicitely NOT to use it to boil an egg, so being a typical scientist, he did exactly that.



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(He also left an entire human brain in a box on a London bus, but that's another story).
Was it yours?

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So, with microwaves and saucepans, why is a microwave better?

It's not safer.
The food doesn't taste better.
It's probably not quicker.
It involves more steps.
It involves more washing up (unless people eat out of the microwave containers).
According to NotAllThere, you have to cook five portions sequentially rather than all in one go.

So again, why is this better?
i guess if you are re-heating a single portion of food which you already put into a microwavable container and which you eat out of, you:

- save amount of stuff to be washed (pot to cook, thing to stir while in pot, dish to put finished food on)
- save time if it can be zapped in a few minutes
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Was it yours?

It was my second brain.
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I live by my microwave---for many years didn't even have a stove.

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I cooked on a little multi-fuel stove for two years (many used kerosene).

I didn't even have a microwave.

It wasn't better.
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i guess if you are re-heating a single portion of food which you already put into a microwavable container and which you eat out of, you:

- save amount of stuff to be washed (pot to cook, thing to stir while in pot, dish to put finished food on)
- save time if it can be zapped in a few minutes

You're just making yourself look sad and lonely now.
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It was my second brain.
What? The one from your head?
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You're just making yourself look sad and lonely now.
i thought it was already too late for that
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i thought it was already too late for that
But Tom telling you that you "sad and lonely" is far more important than thinking it yourself.
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But Tom telling you that you "sad and lonely" is far more important than thinking it yourself.
ok. i'm going to go and cry into my microwaved tupperware now.
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No let's say it's not. That is a minuscule amount. Shall we go back to my five litres?
"Let's say" is a term used to introduce a specificity into a general argument. If you prefer you can have 800ml per person. The argument stands nonetheless.

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And this is better?
Beats food poisoning.

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I doubt that happens in reality ...
Since you missed the bit about eating together, I assume that either you missed the bit where I implied that I doubt the risk is that much higher, and you are clearing arguing for arguments sake. You silly troll - you'll need to be a little subtler than that.
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It was my second brain.
You are Steve Martin and I claim my 5 rappen.

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I doubt that happens in reality and if it were the case then those 'slow-cookers' that some people feel the urge to buy must be absolute killers and there can't be anyone left alive who has actually used one.
http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/sl...d-safety-guide

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