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11.02.2007, 00:17
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from 13.2 most travellers with BA are allowed only 1 bag, BA is to charge 21£ - 120£ per extra bag (> 290 CHF !).
Their press release is interesting : "Where it is clear that a passenger cannot manage one bag, we will let them check in an additional bag (or more) provided the total weight is within the 23 kg limit."
clear to whom ? how ? will they introduce medical checks at check in ?
other airlines to follow ?
small wonder Ryanair are the market leaders in Europe. I look forward to the day they move into the long haul market.
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11.02.2007, 01:18
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| | | Re: British airways latest ripoff | Quote: | |  | | | from 13.2 most travellers with BA are allowed only 1 bag, BA is to charge 21£ - 120£ per extra bag (> 290 CHF !). | | | | | Does this mean one checked luggage bag? Not a weight restriction, but a number of bags restriction? That's silly. I'll stick with AirNZ to get home, I think.
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11.02.2007, 01:23
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BA are normally ok with bagage allowances. As long as you havent got a 40Kg 8x8m suitcase they should be ok. I once got away with 2 bags totalling over 30 kilos when i moved out here... but wouldent from Switzerland as the check in staff at Geneva are right miserable ****s ecspecially mid week
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11.02.2007, 02:14
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depends on the type of the flight (short or long haul), where are you going to and what the pilot had for breakfast.
you can get all the details at http://www.britishairways.com/travel...y/public/en_ch | 
11.02.2007, 11:26
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Its another way for BA to rip off their passengers; interesting that if you start your journey in USA then you are still allowed 2 bags up to 23kgs as they don't want everyone to switch to US airlines; so it's just screwing Brits and other passengers starting flights in Europe with BA
they also reduced the maximum weight of a bag from 32 to 23 kgs at the sametime as the new charges - but if you fly long haul 1st or business class you can check in 3 bags
when you think BA has so many other hidden charges eg fuel surcharge, security charges, etc it is amazing they want to squeeze more fom their passengers already p'd off by the threat of strikes, baggage disputes, and other bad management lead issues that disrupt travelling with BA
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11.02.2007, 11:57
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| | | Re: British airways latest ripoff http://www.britishairways.com/travel...y/public/en_gb
I'd like to know when airlines are going to start weighing passengers with their bag(s). This is surely the fairest system, say 100Kg per person including baggage...
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11.02.2007, 13:11
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Easyjet have also recently introduced a charge for a second bag, I think its £10, and they have reduced the total weight of all hold luggage combined to 23kg. On my last flight from London to Geneva I was charged £30 for my second suitcase.
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11.02.2007, 14:29
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American Airlines are also limiting luggage to 23 kg per bag but you can put the extra weight into a second bag which is what happened to us last year. Otherwise you need to pay for the overweight. Yes this is all about the airlines making extra revenue off the back of passengers.
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11.02.2007, 14:41
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Buy a sack, sling all your bags in it then zip the thing up. | 
11.02.2007, 15:16
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| | | Re: British airways latest ripoff | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | That leaves me with about 10kg | 
11.02.2007, 15:44
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| | | Re: British airways latest ripoff | Quote: | |  | | | That leaves me with about 10kg | | | | | Luxury, you skinny git...
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11.02.2007, 16:00
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| | | Re: British airways latest ripoff | Quote: | |  | | | That leaves me with about 10kg | | | | | Seems fair to me. It's all about how much weight and thus fuel each passenger and their luggages consumes. We've obviously been subsidising you for too long.
(I'd be able to take on 20Kg BTW...)
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11.02.2007, 17:31
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| | | Re: British airways latest ripoff | Quote: | |  | | | they also reduced the maximum weight of a bag from 32 to 23 kgs at the sametime as the new charges - but if you fly long haul 1st or business class you can check in 3 bags | | | | | Thank god they changed to this after I left the US -- both bags were 31 kg. However, they changed their carry-on restrictions to unlimited weight - a la easyJet.
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11.02.2007, 20:00
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| | | Re: British airways latest ripoff | Quote: | |  | | | Luxury, you skinny git... | | | | | Thats 10kg BEFORE you count the luggage... | 
11.02.2007, 20:52
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| | | Re: British airways latest ripoff | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | ah yes, 100+kg but not fat and don't spill over the seat edges - I'm just tall and strong
To be honest, all this stuff puts me off travelling by plane for anything but business | 
11.02.2007, 21:04
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| | | Re: British airways latest ripoff | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | Airlines already have a quota per passenger for weight, it varies tremendously from airline to airline. For airlines based in the USA it's something like 95kg per passenger and for Asian airlines it's only 60kg. These are the figures that they use to calculate the take-off weight of the plane.
I don't agree that individual passengers should be weighed though, both me & the hubby are above average height so probably weigh more than the average person, why should we be penalised for our genes?
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12.02.2007, 10:07
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Its easy.... just follow the travellers mantra 'Take half the clothes and twice the money' I took one carry on for a 4 week trip to the US. I just bought clothes at Walmart (Cheap as chips) and threw them away when they were dirty).
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12.02.2007, 10:30
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| | | Re: British airways latest ripoff | Quote: | |  | | | Airlines already have a quota per passenger for weight, it varies tremendously from airline to airline. For airlines based in the USA it's something like 95kg per passenger and for Asian airlines it's only 60kg. These are the figures that they use to calculate the take-off weight of the plane. | | | | | I am not quite sure it varies that wildly. Current most used figures are 69k for females, 84k for males, or an all-inclusive 77k for adults; with children being 35 and infants 10k respectively.
There's a push towards either revising the average or actually weighing the passengers upon boarding (for small commuters) to get accurate weight and balance figures (subsequent to a crash partly attributed to the plane being overweight) - however I am not sure how far this has actually gone in fact.
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12.02.2007, 11:49
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| | | Re: British airways latest ripoff From ICAO website : Passenger weight. To convert aircraft passenger loads into weight loads, the number of passengers carried is multiplied by a factor representing the average weight of the passenger plus both normal baggage allowance and excess baggage. This conversion factor is left to the discretion of the operator. However, if no conversion factor is available, it is recommended that 90 kilograms be used. (See also passenger-tonne-kilometres performed.)
dave | Quote: | |  | | | I am not quite sure it varies that wildly. Current most used figures are 69k for females, 84k for males, or an all-inclusive 77k for adults; with children being 35 and infants 10k respectively.
There's a push towards either revising the average or actually weighing the passengers upon boarding (for small commuters) to get accurate weight and balance figures (subsequent to a crash partly attributed to the plane being overweight) - however I am not sure how far this has actually gone in fact. | | | | | | 
12.02.2007, 11:57
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I'm pleased that BA have done this. Their motivation may not be totally financial, but also environmental - less weight in the hold means less fuel. Even if this was not their motivation, it is still a good thing. Less bags may also mean less of a wait to reclaim baggage, which is also good.
The only time you need to take more than 23kg per person is when you are moving abroad for a reasonable length of time, and then you should be prepared to pay what it costs to bring the extra stuff.
I'd also previously thought of AbFab's suggestion of a weight limit of baggage + body weight for each person.
I've always liked the idea, but maybe that's just because I'm average or just below. It is completely fair, but possibly a bit de-humanizing, which is why I expect that most airlines would not do it. However, the bigger people are already paying more money for the additional gas/petrol they need for their car (it might not be much, but over the long term, it can add up to a significant amount) and possibly also because of the bigger car that they choose to drive, so why shouldn't they do the same in a plane? The only difference is that the cost difference is way more obvious when it is stated on the plane ticket.
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