The General iPhone Thread and FAQ - Page 3

HAT · #41 04.07.2008, 21:42

	Quote:	ElJeFe
	It's the loudness of the data when you download mp3's. Classical music mp3's typically have lower volume than death metal mp3's. Just ****ting ya, actually it's the AMOUNT of data you download/upload, typically measured in periods of 1 month.

What kind of data volume are we talking about, if we surf for say 1hr per day?
Estimates please.
I am unfamiliar with handheld devices surfing the net.

Very interested to buy a new iPhone 3G, with GPS.

What would be an ideal data volume package from say Swisscom?
HAT

xaphod · #42 04.07.2008, 22:50

(New question)
I have a contract with Swisscom through my place of work - my work mobile is my main mobile (I only have the one). Two questions...

1) anyone know if i'm allowed to march into a store once they get iphones in stock and just pay to upgrade? Perhaps i'm not allowed because it is a corporate/business acct?

2) anyone know how to figure out which business plan i'm on and when it expires (ie. how eligible i am for an upgrade) ? I don't get a bill...

cheers.

Jonnyinter · #43 04.07.2008, 23:35

So now that both the plans are otu can someone please be really helpful and recommend me a plan from either swisscom or orange? What I will probably do most is: Texting, Surfing the web and downloading things from the application store. Can anyone recommend a plan from either swisscom or orange for me? I was thinking about getting the iPhone Optima 100 from Orange or the NATEL Liberty Grande from Swisscom. Also I am under 27 years of age so would I go best with the iPhone Optima 100?

Panzerboy · #44 05.07.2008, 00:16

	Quote:	Jonnyinter
	So now that both the plans are otu can someone please be really helpful and recommend me a plan from either swisscom or orange? What I will probably do most is: Texting, Surfing the web and downloading things from the application store. Can anyone recommend a plan from either swisscom or orange for me? I was thinking about getting the iPhone Optima 100 from Orange or the NATEL Liberty Grande from Swisscom. Also I am under 27 years of age so would I go best with the iPhone Optima 100?

If you talk a lot on the phone, then go with Optima 100. I will personally go with Optima 30. I only hope the 3G Orange network is good enough. Swisscom used to be really really bad, they've just upgraded before Euro 2008, but now it's really really fast (where I work it's faster than our WiFi, but that's because the WiFi is ****ty :-).

Still, I will go with Orange. Price is smaller and they offer the 12 month contract. With Swisscom I would have had to take the most expensive plan, with Orange I can go with the cheapest (because the amount of data is the same).

Panzerboy · #45 05.07.2008, 00:18

Does anybody know if any of Orange or Swisscom plans allow the access to external Exchange servers with the "private" (non-business) plans?

I know both the companies offer hosted Exchange for the business customers, but I just want to access my company's Exchange server.

Jonnyinter · #46 05.07.2008, 00:46

Ok thanks also do you know where I can get an unlocked one in Zurich?

Panzerboy · #47 05.07.2008, 01:07

	Quote:	Jonnyinter
	Ok thanks also do you know where I can get an unlocked one in Zurich?

There're won't be any official unlocked iPhones. At least, not yet. Maybe in France, where apparently the law mandates the mobile operators to sell unlocked phones.

Jonnyinter · #48 05.07.2008, 01:17

oh my god why dont i live in france?! Hahaha no i think ill just get the orange contract. But in the end when the contract is over do i get to keep the iphone? If I do I'll unlock it (in 1-2 years time a jailbreak sort of thing is bound to be able to be done on an iphone 3G) and just use it as a normal phone.

dawiz · #49 05.07.2008, 06:54

	Quote:	Panzerboy
	Does anybody know if any of Orange or Swisscom plans allow the access to external Exchange servers with the "private" (non-business) plans? I know both the companies offer hosted Exchange for the business customers, but I just want to access my company's Exchange server.

AFAIK both Orange and Swisscom will allow access to Hosted Exchange solutions (like live.mail2web.com)

peter

dawiz · #50 05.07.2008, 06:56

	Quote:	Jonnyinter
	Ok thanks also do you know where I can get an unlocked one in Zurich?

It's not clear yet whether the phone will be sold unlocked in Switzerland. Your best chance will be Dataquest - they're saying that they'll be selling the iPhone without contracts as well.

dawiz · #51 05.07.2008, 06:58

	Quote:	Jonnyinter
	So now that both the plans are otu can someone please be really helpful and recommend me a plan from either swisscom or orange? What I will probably do most is: Texting, Surfing the web and downloading things from the application store. Can anyone recommend a plan from either swisscom or orange for me? I was thinking about getting the iPhone Optima 100 from Orange or the NATEL Liberty Grande from Swisscom. Also I am under 27 years of age so would I go best with the iPhone Optima 100?

Are you under 26, too? Swisscom will offer some special deal for people under 26.

It really depends on how long you talk on the phone. Swisscom's per hour tariffs can be a real cost safer if you talk a lot on the phone.

Apart from that: if you plan on downloading things from the web just make sure you get a plan with 1gb of included data traffic.

peter

Panzerboy · #52 05.07.2008, 07:18

	Quote:	dawiz
	AFAIK both Orange and Swisscom will allow access to Hosted Exchange solutions (like live.mail2web.com) peter

Yeah, that I know

I just hope they don't lock access to other Exchange servers for non-business plans.

dawiz · #53 05.07.2008, 07:39

	Quote:	Panzerboy
	Yeah, that I know I just hope they don't lock access to other Exchange servers for non-business plans.

You mean Exchange servers for which there's already a business plan in place? (like your company's server for which there's a contract with Swisscom and which you'd like to use with a private plan as well?)

peter

Panzerboy · #54 05.07.2008, 07:44

	Quote:	dawiz
	You mean Exchange servers for which there's already a business plan in place? (like your company's server for which there's a contract with Swisscom and which you'd like to use with a private plan as well?) peter

Exactly. I have a work phone with a Swisscom contract (I suppose it is a business plan) and with which I access the Exchange server. However, since I don't talk too much on it (read: almost not at all), I would rather give it up and use my iPhone (which would be my own with a private plan) to access our Exchange server. In this way I don't have to carry 2 devices.

I am pretty sure my company will not buy iPhones for us, unfortunately.

dawiz · #55 05.07.2008, 08:13

	Quote:	Panzerboy
	Exactly. I have a work phone with a Swisscom contract (I suppose it is a business plan) and with which I access the Exchange server. However, since I don't talk too much on it (read: almost not at all), I would rather give it up and use my iPhone (which would be my own with a private plan) to access our Exchange server. In this way I don't have to carry 2 devices. I am pretty sure my company will not buy iPhones for us, unfortunately.

Sorry, no idea if they'll allow that - but it's worth a try, I guess. According to Swisscom, they won't be blocking anything but who knows whether that includes servers they themselves already make money off.

Are you allowed to forward your company e-mail to another address? mail2web's Personal Exchange service (the paid version) allows you to define different "default from" addresses so your co-workers wouldn't see that you're using a different account. I'm doing that at work - but then we don't use Exchange.

peter

Polorise · #56 05.07.2008, 08:17

	Quote:	dawiz
	Sorry, no idea if they'll allow that - but it's worth a try, I guess. According to Swisscom, they won't be blocking anything but who knows whether that includes servers they themselves already make money off. Are you allowed to forward your company e-mail to another address? mail2web's Personal Exchange service (the paid version) allows you to define different "default from" addresses so your co-workers wouldn't see that you're using a different account. I'm doing that at work - but then we don't use Exchange. peter

we do & you can access mail via PDA / Smartphone via web access / webmail, Panzerboy, just ask your techies to give you an account. I use this a lot.

Panzerboy · #57 05.07.2008, 08:21

	Quote:	Polorise
	we do & you can access mail via PDA / Smartphone via web access / webmail, Panzerboy, just ask your techies to give you an account. I use this a lot.

Yeah, I know, I already do that with the phone the company gave me (a Nokia N82). I just hope I could do that with my private iPhone as well, without having to buy a business plan.

Polorise · #58 05.07.2008, 08:23

	Quote:	Panzerboy
	Yeah, I know, I already do that with the phone the company gave me (a Nokia N82). I just hope I could do that with my private iPhone as well, without having to buy a business plan.

whyever not ... its browser based, nothing to stop you ....

Panzerboy · #59 05.07.2008, 09:13

	Quote:	Polorise
	whyever not ... its browser based, nothing to stop you ....

Aaah, but I don't want to use OWA. The new iPhone 3G will have native support for Exchange in its own mail client (based on Active Sync). But AFAIK, the operators can block this feature and unlock it only for business plans.

So the question is: will Orange and Swisscom do this or not?

Polorise · #60 05.07.2008, 09:17

	Quote:	Panzerboy
	Aaah, but I don't want to use OWA. The new iPhone 3G will have native support for Exchange in its own mail client (based on Active Sync). But AFAIK, the operators can block this feature and unlock it only for business plans. So the question is: will Orange and Swisscom do this or not?

with you ... however, as far as I can see, there is no business plan planned .... if it shifts data & handsets, I would lean towards this feature being available . IMHO
however, we are talking Swiss MNO's so don't hold your breath. Best bet would be to pop into an Orange store / Swisscom shop, then again, my last purchase of a Blackberry was tortuous.