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Hi there,
We have given the required three months notice to move out of our apartment. We rent it directly from the Landlord, but is has been registered legally.
I would like to know what is the correct amount of notice the Landlord is supposed to give us to bring potential tenants through to have a look?
our land lord had been calling us and asking us if he can bring people in to have a look from anywhere from fourteen hours notice, to one hours notice.
In Australia the Landlord has to give twenty four hours notice in writing to come in the Rental Property .
So what are the Rules here?
Cheers Joanne
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Hi there,
We have given the required three months notice to move out of our apartment. We rent it directly from the Landlord, but is has been registered legally.
I would like to know what is the correct amount of notice the Landlord is supposed to give us to bring potential tenants through to have a look?
our land lord had been calling us and asking us if he can bring people in to have a look from anywhere from fourteen hours notice, to one hours notice.
In Australia the Landlord has to give twenty four hours notice in writing to come in the Rental Property .
So what are the Rules here?
Cheers Joanne
The rule is at your convenience.

Your busy, tell him.

Better yet, identify one day in each of your three months that suits you, and tell him to schedule all appointments for then.
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Re: Landlord Bringing Potentional through Our Apartment

Hi thanks for that. so there are no set Rules on this?.we are moving out on the 17th January, so I think he is panicking because he only advertised it a couple of weeks ago.Not our problem really.
My husband is concerned that if we don't let him come in at random with people , that the Landlord is going to give us grief when we move out.

We had heard horror stories about what Landlords do to tenants when they move out of a property regardless if they have been good tenants or not.
As you can imagine we are packing and the place is a mess, I don't think the Landlord is doing himself any favors presenting it like that. I am certainly not going to run around and clean up at nine am on Sunday Morning. I am feeling inclined to stay in bed during the Inspection!
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Re: Landlord Bringing Potentional through Our Apartment

As your husband has correctly stated you will reduce the risk of grief if you are flexible and cooperate. If the time you get told is no good best to reply with a suitable alternative rather then a no.

When we moved a few years back the place was advertised and it was our responsibiltiy to show the potentials so consider yourself lucky the owner is actually coming to do this.
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Re: Landlord Bringing Potentional through Our Apartment

Of course being flexible and cooperative is preferable but also is being reasonable.

Merely stating, "it works for me if we can agree one or two days out the month" or whatever you personally prefer, so you can plan in advance to ensure the place is in a condition you feel comfortable with and/or so you can simply not to have to worry about him wanting to pop round at any given time.
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Re: Landlord Bringing Potentional through Our Apartment

As someone who is looking for an apartment...

I actually prefer it when an advert states a time (e.g. 2 evenings a week) when can just show up unannounced to view the apartment. Saves me the hassle of ringing up the landlord / current tenant, trying to find a date and time that suits us both etc. It also means, should the miracle happen and I actually find an apartment, I don't have to worry about cancelling any visits.

I don't think that once or twice a month is 'enough' (from the landlord's point of view)... but why don't you suggest two or maybe three evenings a week when the landlord can come and people can just turn up? You could always go out... And from your point of view you won't have to keep the flat tidy at all times in case of an unexpected visit.

If you're concerned about having problems when you move out, can I suggest that you join ASLOCA / Mieterverband / ASI (tenant's association)? They might be able to give you advice on the whole visit front too.
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As someone who is looking for an apartment...

I actually prefer it when an advert states a time (e.g. 2 evenings a week) when can just show up unannounced to view the apartment. Saves me the hassle of ringing up the landlord / current tenant, trying to find a date and time that suits us both etc. It also means, should the miracle happen and I actually find an apartment, I don't have to worry about cancelling any visits.

I don't think that once or twice a month is 'enough' (from the landlord's point of view)... but why don't you suggest two or maybe three evenings a week when the landlord can come and people can just turn up? You could always go out... And from your point of view you won't have to keep the flat tidy at all times in case of an unexpected visit.

If you're concerned about having problems when you move out, can I suggest that you join ASLOCA / Mieterverband / ASI (tenant's association)? They might be able to give you advice on the whole visit front too.
It only takes one or two open visits, that's the point
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As someone who is looking for an apartment...

I actually prefer it when an advert states a time (e.g. 2 evenings a week) when can just show up unannounced to view the apartment. Saves me the hassle of ringing up the landlord / current tenant, trying to find a date and time that suits us both etc. It also means, should the miracle happen and I actually find an apartment, I don't have to worry about cancelling any visits.

I don't think that once or twice a month is 'enough' (from the landlord's point of view)... but why don't you suggest two or maybe three evenings a week when the landlord can come and people can just turn up? You could always go out... And from your point of view you won't have to keep the flat tidy at all times in case of an unexpected visit.

If you're concerned about having problems when you move out, can I suggest that you join ASLOCA / Mieterverband / ASI (tenant's association)? They might be able to give you advice on the whole visit front too.
My point was that we are leaving on the 17th January which is in ten days. It is not our fault that the Landlord has left it late to advertise. I don't think we should have to Tidy up, or go out in the Freezing Cold whilst he brings people through. I dont understand why there are no set rules for having our privacy invaded when we are trying to move out. I object to have to be living in fear that if we dont placate. he will be petty about giving us our Bond back. I am not one bit sorry to be leaving this Anal Retentive Country where foreigners are considered second class citizens. and I don't give a Continental who disagrees with me.
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I am not one bit sorry to be leaving this Anal Retentive Country where foreigners are considered second class citizens. and I don't give a Continental who disagrees with me.
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Go'on girl, get it off your chest. All the best with your move.
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My point was that we are leaving on the 17th January which is in ten days. It is not our fault that the Landlord has left it late to advertise. I don't think we should have to Tidy up, or go out in the Freezing Cold whilst he brings people through. I dont understand why there are no set rules for having our privacy invaded when we are trying to move out. I object to have to be living in fear that if we dont placate. he will be petty about giving us our Bond back. I am not one bit sorry to be leaving this Anal Retentive Country where foreigners are considered second class citizens. and I don't give a Continental who disagrees with me.
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Hahahaha whoop whoop love it!

It does have that element to it

Back to the issue: yeah I am surprised it's been left so late by the landlord, but as you say, hardly your issue if you have given correct notice etc.

With regards to the deposit, this has been stored correctly in an account in your name accessible/released by mutual sign off on Abschluss rechnung I assume?
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My point was that we are leaving on the 17th January which is in ten days. It is not our fault that the Landlord has left it late to advertise. I don't think we should have to Tidy up, or go out in the Freezing Cold whilst he brings people through. I dont understand why there are no set rules for having our privacy invaded when we are trying to move out. I object to have to be living in fear that if we dont placate. he will be petty about giving us our Bond back. I am not one bit sorry to be leaving this Anal Retentive Country where foreigners are considered second class citizens. and I don't give a Continental who disagrees with me.
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Wow. You require an actual law to dictate to you when and how you have to provide access to a rental property rather than being an adult and just speaking to your landlord about when it convenient for you both?

Really?
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My point was that we are leaving on the 17th January which is in ten days. It is not our fault that the Landlord has left it late to advertise. I don't think we should have to Tidy up, or go out in the Freezing Cold whilst he brings people through. I dont understand why there are no set rules for having our privacy invaded when we are trying to move out. I object to have to be living in fear that if we dont placate. he will be petty about giving us our Bond back. I am not one bit sorry to be leaving this Anal Retentive Country where foreigners are considered second class citizens. and I don't give a Continental who disagrees with me.
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It would appear you have bigger issues hanging over you than this...I've found it interesting to often see a correlation between the way people think about situtations (ie. "having our privacy invaded" and the number of problems they then tend to experience and thus feel victimized.

Look at it this way...if you were the landlord, would you not appreciate someone being cooperative if you were trying to find a replacement renter, and would you not be more inclined to let some small things go on the inspection because they were decent with you ?
No one says you have to clean up, as you are getting ready to move it will surely be understood things are going to be a bit of a mess, no one says you have to stand outside during the visit.

For gods sake, take a step back and release some of that anger, you'll live longer or at the very least have less strife with others
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Wow. You require an actual law to dictate to you when and how you have to provide access to a rental property rather than being an adult and just speaking to your landlord about when it convenient for you both?

Really?
So far our Landlord has made three appointments over the past week, giving us one hours notice, including New Years Eve and New Years Day when we had family over. and not to mention the other last minute appointments that ended up being No Shows. I think we have been more than Adult about this!. But thank you for your comment, I hope your landlord never brings people to your door when you are in the Shower!
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So far our Landlord has made three appointments over the past week, giving us one hours notice, including New Years Eve and New Years Day when we had family over. and not to mention the other last minute appointments that ended up being No Shows. I think we have been more than Adult about this!. But thank you for your comment, I hope your landlord never brings people to your door when you are in the Shower!
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This bit of information changes the picture, wish it had been known earlier. I would be equally upset if things like that happened.

I think you would be within your rights to set conditions such as not on holidays and must be organized more than x hours in advance.
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How about a friendly "yes, that is okay," when the timing is okay with you, and a polite "No, I am sorry, we need to make a different time," when the time does not suit you. You are under no obligation to agree to every request he makes and I would certainly be saying no if it was when I had visitors, was eating, showering etc. And I would not ( do not) answer the doorbell if I am in the bathroom.

As far as the mess goes, you do not have any obligation to be doing a mad tidy up before each visit.

It's interesting to see the different approaches different landlords have to reletting. I have been intrigued to find that instances where I know apartments have been empty for literally months, with landlords being very casual about doing repainting etc before even bothering to advertise, or advertising with such basic info and no photograph, that it can hadly be considered marketing.
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In this case, I would simply just say "No, AYFKM?? It's NYE/NYD - call in advance and we'll agree a date/time".
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Re: Landlord Bringing Potentional through Our Apartment

Check your contract as it should state notice periods for landlord entry.

But even with that, ours has showed up at our door twice with zero notice. Four people came to look at the bathrooms to do renovations. Even after nicely explaining the first time it would be helpful to us to receive notice, they did it again a week later.
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Re: Landlord Bringing Potentional through Our Apartment

Some people seem to be missing the point.

It is not reasonable to call up a few hours before.

It is not the op's responsibility to solve the landlords problems. I'm not advocating being an arse, but the landlord is being a bit of an arse in my opinion judging by the spontaneous and ill thought out requests of viewings at the drop of a hat.

Pick a day and slot of 2 hours where everyone he finds or is interested can come view. He will surely have enough applicants to choose from.
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Check your contract as it should state notice periods for landlord entry.

But even with that, ours has showed up at our door twice with zero notice. Four people came to look at the bathrooms to do renovations. Even after nicely explaining the first time it would be helpful to us to receive notice, they did it again a week later.
Thank you for that, this is how it is here. I know I am not in Australia, but I think the Uk, have much the same rules. I am aware we can say No, but we run the risk of rubbing the landlord up the wrong way, and he may be mean and petty when doing the final Inspection. It that seems to be an accepted fact here. Quite disgraceful.
We have two inspections today, the last ones looked in our bedroom cupboards and pulled open the dresser drawer, even though the apartment does not come with any Furniture!. The landlord did not say a word. I was gobsmacked. But One must be Adult about such things `Really"!
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Re: Landlord Bringing Potentional through Our Apartment

I forgot to mention that the potential tenant that came through, wanted to take photos of the apartment, with us and our stuff still in it. I said no, that there were actually still photo's on the Internet from when we rented the apartment. But he went ahead and took some photos anyway. I have never experienced such an invasion of privacy in my life. it is outrageous. Cant wait to be back in a country where tenants are respected. Thank God we own our our home in Australia.
Happy New Year Everyone.
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