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17.03.2010, 14:32
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Everyone looking for an apt should read the relevant threads on how to do it - it helps massively in your search! From the rest it's just luck and perseverence I guess.
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17.03.2010, 15:15
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| | | Re: Interesting Apartment Application Interview. Legal? | Quote: |  | | | I actually had the same questions asked by a couple of agency, both in person and on applications forms, I don't think they are a prerogative of the landlords.. | | | | | It sounds like it is normal getting asked if you have pets. but is not. They just could tell you not to have a dog, cat or whatever. But it is not their busines if you have snakes, spiders or a normal number of guinea pigs. And also it is not their job to judge someone because a shaved head and driving heavy motor bikes only because there is a housing shortage.
If there wouldn`t be a discrimination and racism act, advertisement would probably look lik this.
Apartment to let:
To a friendly good earning person in higher position. No foreigners, no pets at al. Likes to stay over the weakend in St. moritz. Not maried, no kids, no musician. no hyperhidrosis of feet, medical assessment required, no smokers and tenant should not be at the rented place as much as possible, there is an attendance recorder etc.
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17.03.2010, 15:45
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| | | Re: Interesting Apartment Application Interview. Legal? | Quote: | |  | | | It sounds like it is normal getting asked if you have pets. but is not. They just could tell you not to have a dog, cat or whatever. But it is not their busines if you have snakes, spiders or a normal number of guinea pigs. | | | | | speaking as a landlord, it is my business to ask you if you have a pet and what kind. whether you have a hamster locked in a cage that does nothing but sleeping all day or a wild cat that will scratch my 16th century oak beams to sawdust makes a hell of a difference for me (as a landlord).
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17.03.2010, 16:06
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| | | Re: Interesting Apartment Application Interview. Legal? | Quote: |  | | | speaking as a landlord, it is my business to ask you if you have a pet and what kind. whether you have a hamster locked in a cage that does nothing but sleeping all day or a wild cat that will scratch my 16th century oak beams to sawdust makes a hell of a difference for me (as a landlord). | | | | | I do think historical buildings are not the avarage rented out places. I assume cats would not be a problem if the tenant covers up the beams, also the most owners are too fussy about tenants despite there is everything regulated in the contract and tenancy law. If you have to ask the tenant if he would drink a glass whisky or red wine sometimes, because of being afraid staining the 200 year old wooden floor you should not rent out the place. It could hapen they burn down the house because of a forgotten candlelight.
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17.03.2010, 16:24
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| | | Re: Interesting Apartment Application Interview. Legal? | Quote: | |  | | | I do think historical buildings are not the avarage rented out places. I assume cats would not be a problem if the tenant covers up the beams, also the most owners are too fussy about tenants despite there is everything regulated in the contract and tenancy law. If you have to ask the tenant if he would drink a glass whisky or red wine sometimes, because of being afraid staining the 200 year old wooden floor you should not rent out the place. It could hapen they burn down the house because of a forgotten candlelight. | | | | |
are you arguing for the sake of it?? the owner can rent THERE house to whoever THEY please.
And given that any half decent place will have multiple people going for it I'd say they can afford to be choosey.
If you did spill red wine on his floor and stained it then it would be upto you to get it sorted, thats what deposits and insurance are for, your arguments make no sence, do you even live here??
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17.03.2010, 16:43
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| | | Re: Interesting Apartment Application Interview. Legal? | Quote: |  | | | If you did spill red wine on his floor and stained it then it would be upto you to get it sorted, thats what deposits and insurance are for, your arguments make no sence, do you even live here?? | | | | | That is what I am trying to say, most of the things are regulated and the owner should not be interested if the tenant smokes 1time in a year a cigar or likes to cook hot spicey curry.
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17.03.2010, 16:44
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| | | Re: Interesting Apartment Application Interview. Legal? | Quote: | |  | | | That is what I am trying to say, most of the things are regulated and the owner should not be interested if the tenant smokes 1time in a year a cigar or likes to cook hot spicey curry. | | | | | you are not a landlord...
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17.03.2010, 16:50
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| | | Re: Interesting Apartment Application Interview. Legal? | Quote: | |  | | | That is what I am trying to say, most of the things are regulated and the owner should not be interested if the tenant smokes 1time in a year a cigar or likes to cook hot spicey curry. | | | | | Well if i was a landlord i would prefer a certain kind of tenant. If i get loads of applications i would reject those i dont like. My house my rules. Housing situation is so bad here i can do whatever i want
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17.03.2010, 16:50
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| | | Re: Interesting Apartment Application Interview. Legal? | Quote: | |  | | | That is what I am trying to say, most of the things are regulated and the owner should not be interested if the tenant smokes 1time in a year a cigar or likes to cook hot spicey curry. | | | | |
spilling wine and leaving a place that stinks of smoke, pets or spicey food is hardly the same.
would you rent somthing that cost 600k+ chf out to someone you thought might damage it or cause you hassle when you have someone else who wants it who wont? (at least in your mind)
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17.03.2010, 18:23
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It should be common sence that tenants are alowed to use the rented place. The tenant law defines everything about smoking and staining floors where tenants are bound to pay for repairs or for painting the apartment.
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17.03.2010, 18:28
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| | | Re: Interesting Apartment Application Interview. Legal? | Quote: | |  | | | It should be common sence that tenants are alowed to use the rented place. The tenant law defines everything about smoking and staining floors where tenants are bound to pay for repairs or for painting the apartment. | | | | | do you have a source of the tenants law?
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17.03.2010, 18:40
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When I lived in Zollikon, I rented a room, so the case was different. If you rent an expensive room: 1000 or over, no problem.
If there are so much applications, so much questions like "Are you pregnant or planning to be pregnant?" "Is your wife EU citizen?" and so long application interviews, WHY DON'T THE LANDLORDS JUST RAISE THE PRICE?
With the prices a lot higher, the landlords will earn more (the will also retain a warranty deposit fee too) and it will be like in London or Barcelona, or anywhere: current month, month in advance, warranty deposit fee, some other charges (i.e agency fee, contract registration stamp), EU papers, AND NO LONG INTERVIEW PROCESSES, NO OFFENSIVE questions.
It will be very first come first served. You'd say. OK I like the flat: Here is a copy of my passport, the money and tomorrow morning I´m in.
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17.03.2010, 20:01
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| | | Re: Interesting Apartment Application Interview. Legal? | Quote: | |  | | | When I lived in Zollikon, I rented a room, so the case was different. If you rent an expensive room: 1000 or over, no problem.
If there are so much applications, so much questions like "Are you pregnant or planning to be pregnant?" "Is your wife EU citizen?" and so long application interviews, WHY DON'T THE LANDLORDS JUST RAISE THE PRICE?
With the prices a lot higher, the landlords will earn more (the will also retain a warranty deposit fee too) and it will be like in London or Barcelona, or anywhere: current month, month in advance, warranty deposit fee, some other charges (i.e agency fee, contract registration stamp), EU papers, AND NO LONG INTERVIEW PROCESSES, NO OFFENSIVE questions.
It will be very first come first served. You'd say. OK I like the flat: Here is a copy of my passport, the money and tomorrow morning I´m in. | | | | | So in other words try to price families out of the apartments... nice
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17.03.2010, 20:08
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| | | Re: Interesting Apartment Application Interview. Legal? | Quote: | |  | | | As for the question - my tenant preferences are none of your business.
My previous post summarised everything I had to say about it, and personal drilling further will give you nothing. | | | | | Trust me, I'd only find hatred and intolerance if I drilled any further
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17.03.2010, 20:12
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| | | Re: Interesting Apartment Application Interview. Legal? | Quote: | |  | | | Definitely noisier than couples who dont.
And how is my post not making sense along with ullainga's that deserved a groan? Oh thats coming from a tit-for-tat groaner, who've not bothered to introduce himself to the community. Pleasant chap. | | | | | Definitely noisier than couples who dont? Who don't what?
Makes little sense, a couple can be noiser then a couple with kids and vice versa.
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17.03.2010, 20:22
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| | | Re: Interesting Apartment Application Interview. Legal? | Quote: |  | | | questions like "Are you pregnant or planning to be pregnant?" "Is your wife EU citizen?" | | | | | If you think the owner prefers not to get children in the house you are alowed to lie, masquerader skills could help. It is definetely not their busines if you plan to be pregnant as long the flat is suitable to have children. Of course in a flat share probably a breach of contract if you mutliply yourself, you will have to find something else.
There are some circumstances where a family is favored.
I don`t know about the question if married or not or what citicienship the spouse has. But i doubt it is the owners busines asking about the citicienship of the partner.
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17.03.2010, 20:28
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Most people don't seem to get that landlords cannot raise rents at will in order to get only the "cream" of tenants, that's exactly the point why they are so choosy, because demand by far outweighs offer in some areas. Get some basic facts straight before arguing on here please.
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17.03.2010, 20:45
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| | | Re: Interesting Apartment Application Interview. Legal? | Quote: | |  | | | all things being equal. Would you pick a black candidate or a white candidate? And why does it matter if they have a car? | | | | | This ones easy.
If the landlord has a space or spaces that they want to rent and you don't have a car then they will not put you on the short list. Alternatively, if the landlord doesn't have space(s) for a car that you do have they won't want you on their short list either because you will want to park you car outside in the "visitor only spots!"
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17.03.2010, 20:54
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| | | Re: Interesting Apartment Application Interview. Legal? | Quote: |  | | | because you will want to park you car outside | | | | | It could be how the owner thinks, but you also could find a parking spot near the house.
Another reason car owners are discriminated is, some people just hate people who drive cars even they sometimes use cars by them self.
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