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Dishwasher Service ??!!??

Hallo everybody!

I will move soon from my current house and I noticed that in my house contract is stated that I will have to service the Dishwasher. This is very usual!!!

Do you know of any law or reason to not do it (I would like to save 150-200chf)? The dishwasher works perfectly.

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Hallo everybody!

I will move soon from my current house and I noticed that in my house contract is stated that I will have to service the Dishwasher. This is very usual!!!

Do you know of any law or reason to not do it (I would like to save 150-200chf)? The dishwasher works perfectly.

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Just do it.

it will be nice for the next renters not to have to use your old dishwasher.....meaning all the stuff left behind in it.

On top of that you will have to prove that you have it done, especially cause it is in the contract......so nothing you can do
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Yeah just don't do it. My trumble drier doesn't dry clothes with the filter in. We mentioned this to the landlord who just said "clean it" (which we had done) and walked out. So we just removed the filter and use the machine without it

His pipes, not mine.
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Hallo everybody!

I will move soon from my current house and I noticed that in my house contract is stated that I will have to service the Dishwasher. This is very usual!!!

Do you know of any law or reason to not do it (I would like to save 150-200chf)? The dishwasher works perfectly.

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Re: Dishwascher Service ??!!??

Well..... as mentioned the dishwascher work perfectly and I will obviously clean it (including the filters).

It seems such a stupid thing that a guy will come, look at it for 10min ....charge me 150chf .....I rather avoid that. Especially because the landlord will check it again.
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Re: Dishwascher Service ??!!??

Seems you have signed the contract and this is a requirement. same as the previous person I guess. on we all go round and round.
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There is also another point which can contradict the request of the service.....

It is stated that I am not responsible for any renovation/reparation which is more that 1% monthly rent
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There is also another point which can contradict the request of the service.....

It is stated that I am not responsible for any renovation/reparation which is more that 1% monthly rent
I assume a "service" is not a repair (no broken) or renovation.
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There is also another point which can contradict the request of the service.....

It is stated that I am not responsible for any renovation/reparation which is more that 1% monthly rent
Unfortunately, I don't think the servicing will come under those headings - probably just more general wear and tear. I think go with the advice to just get it done (annoying though that is) as I remember reading one poster who got a complaint about fingerprints on the garage door (!!) during checkout. Better safe than sorry I would think.
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Re: Dishwascher Service ??!!??

I will do it ......annoying because it not very common...
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Re: Dishwascher Service ??!!??

I would find out what the servicing covers. If it's just a good clean then turn off all the "automatic" settings and run the machine empty at the hottest temperature it has.

Then clean all the filters and around the door seals etc.

That should do it.

Just say you have a friend who services dishwashers and they did it for you without a receipt for a good price.

I've had my dishwasher (in my place in London) for almost 10 years and never had it serviced. Nothing's wrong with it. Didn't even know that these things could be serviced - it's just a dishwasher.
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Re: Dishwascher Service ??!!??

You need to check what it means. Perhaps by clarifying the terms of your lease with these people: http://www.mieterverband.ch/

If some sort of formal annual servicing is required and this was included in your lease agreement, then the owner may require you to prove that you indeed paid for this service. Otherwise they may withhold a certain amount from your deposit when you move out.

In my old flat we were responsible for annual servicing of the heating system and had to prove at the end that we indeed paid for these checkups. I do not know about dishwashers, I never rented a flat with equipped kitchens, bought my own fridge/stove/dishwasher and I think it is a much better, hassle-free deal.
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Hallo everybody!

I will move soon from my current house and I noticed that in my house contract is stated that I will have to service the Dishwasher. This is very usual!!!

Do you know of any law or reason to not do it (I would like to save 150-200chf)? The dishwasher works perfectly.

Thanks
This service should have been carried out by the previous tenant before you moved in. Did you ask when you took the apartment on if it this was done? Sometimes in the case of very old machines the landlord says not to bother as they are prepared to replace the machine if something does go wrong.

The service actually protects you from the new tenant who claims it doesn't work when they move in. You know there are 10 days in which the new tenant can make a claim....if you don't have the service done you can be sure someone will be coming back to you about the diswasher.

You can shop around a bit for service. First call the manufacturer, give them the model and serial number of the machine and perhaps they can give you the service history. Besides the manufacturer, there may be a local appliance service company who will come and check it.It might be a bit less expensive. Be sure they fill out a form saying the check was done and give you a copy. You probably have to pay cash for the service and they should note on the paper that you have paid. This you need to give to your current landlord.

If you have your own washer/dryer, you have to service these too.
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Yeah just don't do it.
It doesn't work that way. The contract says it has to be done. Unless the machine is still under warranty or just had a service, there is really no way around it. That is just the way it is. When my clients move into apartments, I make sure the service was done. If it wasn't, I make sure my clients are covered in the event the machines break down.

A tenant not following the conditions in his contract is one reason why landlords don't want to rent to foreigners. There are enough foreigners complaining here about not being able to find rentals. Why would you go and advice not to follow the rules? Are you trying to make the situation for foreigners worse? Sounds like it to me.
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Just say you have a friend who services dishwashers and they did it for you without a receipt for a good price.
You are joking, right? The landlord will then just decide how much of the deposit to withhold for not getting the service done. He/she will be annoyed and then entire handover is going to go very badly. Are you going to be there to help this guy out? What is the point in comparing London to Zürich?
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So called "foreigners" running around wimpering and begging for an apartment while dumping huge quantities of cash on a country which without those "foreigners" would quickly sink back to it's roots of starvation selling it's best and brightest as mercenaries is why they get a hard time here. As has been discussed before it's the Swiss who need us, not the other way around and I feel a landlord asking for a 200chf service of a washing machine is a little unreasonable.

Having said that I apologise for this off topic rant.

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It doesn't work that way. The contract says it has to be done. Unless the machine is still under warranty or just had a service, there is really no way around it. That is just the way it is. When my clients move into apartments, I make sure the service was done. If it wasn't, I make sure my clients are covered in the event the machines break down.

A tenant not following the conditions in his contract is one reason why landlords don't want to rent to foreigners. There are enough foreigners complaining here about not being able to find rentals. Why would you go and advice not to follow the rules? Are you trying to make the situation for foreigners worse? Sounds like it to me.
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I didn't. I was stating that a dishwasher should work perfectly well without any type of regular "service".
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Should yes. The one in my house has broken down *twice* and it's only four years old - electrolux cr*p. We're putting a new kitchen in this year, so I'm getting a Miele.
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I will do it ......annoying because it not very common...

Quit whinging and just do it. You signed the contract, nobody forced you to sign it. You whinge before you sign, not after
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Hallo everybody!

I will move soon from my current house and I noticed that in my house contract is stated that I will have to service the Dishwasher. This is very usual!!!

Do you know of any law or reason to not do it (I would like to save 150-200chf)? The dishwasher works perfectly.

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It's fairly standard to have all the appliances checked by an engineer before you move out. This is especially the case with washing machines and dishwashers which are cronically and terminally affected by limescale build up, and if there is no water softener in the building you should be using an anti-calcaire treatment every time.

The only exception to this I think is if the appliances are more than 10 years old.

When you moved in the exiting tennant would have had this done for your benefit so stump up and have it done for the next person.... it's the way it works.
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So called "foreigners" running around wimpering and begging for an apartment while dumping huge quantities of cash on a country which without those "foreigners" would quickly sink back to it's roots of starvation selling it's best and brightest as mercenaries is why they get a hard time here. As has been discussed before it's the Swiss who need us, not the other way around and I feel a landlord asking for a 200chf service of a washing machine is a little unreasonable.

Having said that I apologise for this off topic rant.
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