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SUVA Insurance ( Dobbing in someone claiming Invalidity benefits )

I'm interested to know how and where can I report a false disablity pensioner,or the person who is "invalid" but sells cars, works in the garden etc.. Which normally couldn't be able to do if really is a disabled person. I've never done anything like this,but this man did a lot of the same reports to the others,so I think that it is just replied to it. I just need the right number,e-mail or service in SUVA insurance.
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Old 11.12.2011, 21:14
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Re: SUVA Insurance

Welcome to the forum. You mean you wish to dob someone in ? I note your location states Zürich although it appears you are posting from abroad.

http://www.suva.ch/english/

SVA Zürich: http://www.svazurich.ch/internet/de/home.html
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thank you..Yes something like that..right now I'm abroad..
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Re: SUVA Insurance ( Dobbing in someone claiming Invalidity benefits )

Maybe he has a mental or terminal illness that might not appear apparent?

I find it really hard to comprehend why anyone would deliberately go out of their way to cause problems for a neighbour (except to eat them), has the chap offended you in anyway or is it just your nature?
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Re: SUVA Insurance ( Dobbing in someone claiming Invalidity benefits )

What are they claiming for? I knew someone who was on invalidity insurance because they needed dialysis twice a week and the doctor decided they could only work 50%. But that didn't mean that they were bedbound the rest of the time. The person in question would have been quite able to tend the flower beds or sell a car.

So if you don't know exactly what the person is claiming for I would tread carefully...

And btw a really positive contribution for a first post...I don't think.
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Old 11.12.2011, 22:07
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I'm interested to know how and where can I report a false disablity pensioner,or the person who is "invalid" but sells cars, works in the garden etc..
The Daily Mail?
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Re: SUVA Insurance ( Dobbing in someone claiming Invalidity benefits )

How do you judge a person to be 'really' disabled ?
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Re: SUVA Insurance ( Dobbing in someone claiming Invalidity benefits )

why can't a disabled person sell cars or work in a garden?
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Re: SUVA Insurance ( Dobbing in someone claiming Invalidity benefits )

Maybe its the glass (or two) of wine I've had this evening or the rather trying day spent with my mother in law, but you have really pushed my button.

Why oh why do ignorant people believe that just because a person "doesn't look disabled" means they are not? Have you so very little lack of imagination? God forbid that any such mishap should happen to you or your family, because not only is it hard enough dealing with the problem itself but then ignorant people like you compound it by going around saying things like "but you don't look disabled/to have learning difficulties blah blah what ever".


PS This message is just as much intended for the nasty man who shouted as much in my face on Friday in Hieber's supermarket as it is for the OP. Sadly I don't think the Hieber's supermarket man will be reading this.
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Re: SUVA Insurance ( Dobbing in someone claiming Invalidity benefits )

Believe me,I am not a mole or something,I never was..But I know the whole situation about this person-He got that pension 10-15 years ago and now thinks that can do whatever he wants..I know who is he, what is he doing and he is known as THE SPY in his neighborhood..He goes around and reports everyone..if someone "sleeps too long"...so why can't he feel a little bit of Spying on his own?
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Re: SUVA Insurance ( Dobbing in someone claiming Invalidity benefits )

I'm quite sure that his case would be regularly reviewed with strict limitations. Given the way you describe this person...he probably knows 'every trick in the book'...
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Re: SUVA Insurance ( Dobbing in someone claiming Invalidity benefits )

I just want to activate the service that is reponsible for the control of pensioners like him - to call him and make some questions on that topic- only to show that next time has to thing how will be he behave to the others....that would be enough..
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Re: SUVA Insurance ( Dobbing in someone claiming Invalidity benefits )

I'm sorry, but your replies are making your motives more and more muddled... or are we actually now hearing the real reason for your question?

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I'm interested to know how and where can I report a false disablity pensioner,or the person who is "invalid" but sells cars, works in the garden etc.. Which normally couldn't be able to do if really is a disabled person. I've never done anything like this,but this man did a lot of the same reports to the others,so I think that it is just replied to it. I just need the right number,e-mail or service in SUVA insurance.
Ok, so in the above quote you are unhappy because, in your view, this man is not 'disabled' due to his capacity to do physical activity. Well, as others have pointed out, in this enlightened day and age most people recognise that a disability does not have to be physical, or even obvious to the causual observer. I know a lot of people who get invalidity insurance allocations... none of them are physically hanicapped. Oh, and for your information they have to undergo a stringent (and stresssful) reassessment process on a regular basis.

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Believe me,I am not a mole or something,I never was..But I know the whole situation about this person-He got that pension 10-15 years ago and now thinks that can do whatever he wants..I know who is he, what is he doing and he is known as THE SPY in his neighborhood..He goes around and reports everyone..if someone "sleeps too long"...so why can't he feel a little bit of Spying on his own?
But now the plot thickens... you are not unhappy with this person's 'tricking' the system, but with his bahaviour towards others... you feel he 'spies' on others so you want to do the same to him? Perhaps his behaviour is annoying, but his actions (that you describe here) do not in any way indicate that he's claiming false benefits...

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I just want to activate the service that is reponsible for the control of pensioners like him - to call him and make some questions on that topic- only to show that next time has to thing how will be he behave to the others....that would be enough..
So really you just want to 'teach him a lesson'... or pay him back 'in his own coin'? He's got on the wrong side of you, so you want to make some trouble for him by contacting the authorities...

I'm not going to say how that makes you appear, because I try to be polite on online forums... but thank you for clarifying that actually you're not motivated by a genuine concern that this person is claiming a disability pension on false grounds... but actually on a personal dislike for how this person conducts himself.

May I respectfully suggest that there are other ways of resolving this situation than by contacting the authorities with complaints that actually have nothing to do with your real issue with this person?
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Re: SUVA Insurance ( Dobbing in someone claiming Invalidity benefits )

The OP's username pretty much sums it up. It might have served better had they called themselves concernedcitizen but I think the intentions are clear when someone calls themselves angryman.
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Re: SUVA Insurance ( Dobbing in someone claiming Invalidity benefits )

TBH, I'm not sure why people are getting on the OP's back.

If he is right, then this man is defrauding SUVA, increasing our insurance premiums.

If he's wrong then SUVA will check their records and dismiss the report.

I'm not sure I'd bother reporting him myself (I'm a bad and lazy citizen), but if the OP feels like it, then fair enough.
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TBH, I'm not sure why people are getting on the OP's back.

If he is right, then this man is defrauding SUVA, increasing our insurance premiums.

If he's wrong then SUVA will check their records and dismiss the report.

I'm not sure I'd bother reporting him myself (I'm a bad and lazy citizen), but if the OP feels like it, then fair enough.
OP has clearly stated his motives, which are a bit off-putting really. It's not about caring whether the right thing gets done and fairness is metered out. It's about revenge.
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It's not about caring whether the right thing gets done and fairness is metered out. It's about revenge.
Yes, mixed in with a fair bit of ignorance on the subject, the sort of which often makes my life a misery.
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TBH, I'm not sure why people are getting on the OP's back.

If he is right, then this man is defrauding SUVA, increasing our insurance premiums.

If he's wrong then SUVA will check their records and dismiss the report.

I'm not sure I'd bother reporting him myself (I'm a bad and lazy citizen), but if the OP feels like it, then fair enough.
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