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Re: Swiss insurance? pay the bills in Germany or France

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They were lied to, they were told that it would lower premiums.

And people vote for Trump and Obama as well, so I'm not sure that I understand your point?

Tom
Odile summarized my point perfectly.


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If insurance weren't mandatory, there would always be people who wouldn't have it, be that due to not having the money to pay for it or not wanting to pay for it. Taking a risk or not having the money with consequential non-insurance would end up with people being in for a big surprise if tragedy hit. What would happen to them in case of illness?
Currently, if you can't afford it there are subsidies etc. to help you pay. This way everyone is covered in case they fall ill.
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Health care options anc costs have exploded since, here, there or anywhere. No-one quite saw it coming.

However, what do you suggest should be done with people who would choose not to have health and accident cover, or who could not afford to pay for it? Ask them to show the card on entrance to hospital and put them in the cellar to die, if they are not insured? What about the children? Let them die too if their parents are too stupid to pay for them, or just can't?

GJ's point is that the majority saw the above would be a real problem, and that it is a much fairer system.
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Old 29.03.2016, 22:04
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You've said this before many times- and it shocks me every time. Not everyone is able to put aside 1000s or 10s of 1000s and more, in case they or a member of their family is struck by a terrible disease with massively expensive treatment, or has a terrible accident - often through no fault of their own- and costs in millions. That is what solidarity is about, and it makes totalo sense to me (writing this from my hospital bed after an expensive operation. When I had my car accident at 19 and spent over 6 months in hospital and 2 years of rehab- my parents just couldn't afforded to pay).
Apropos I had a problem with a Swiss guy who did not pay his bills. During my investigation I found he had not paid his health insurance for 15 years but still got treated.

Do not understand how such people live their daily lives; I suffer severe guilty feelings when I am only days late in paying.
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Old 29.03.2016, 22:07
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Health care options anc costs have exploded since, here, there or anywhere. No-one quite saw it coming.
Why? There is no rationale for it.

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what do you suggest should be done with people who would choose not to have health and accident cover, or who could not afford to pay for it?
Same as when it was optional, i.e. payed out of a special fund.

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