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Old 08.11.2016, 22:24
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I am quite good at managing pain, but this is the most painful experience I've had so far, I am probably just scared about this pain.

I will look for a specialist and see him instead of the GP to make sure I follow your advice and handle it properly.
Yes, sounds like you need a second opinion. A strain (as you described in your original post) is certainly painful but yours sounds worse than that.
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Old 08.11.2016, 22:57
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...I will look for a specialist and see him instead of the GP to make sure I follow your advice and handle it properly.
An update for you in case it helps - my GP has referred me to an orthopedic surgeon. It's probably overkill for "just" a badly sprained ankle (need an MRI to be sure about the ligament damage) but at least then I'll already be with a specialist and not have to get referred again to someone else.
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orthopedic surgeon

(need an MRI to be sure about the ligament damage)
Do you care to share the surgeon's contact?

Are you doing an MRI at what week? I read that it is needed to wait until the swelling is gone.

Thank you!
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Re: Accident, fell on the side walk because the home owner left wood on the floor

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When I was a small child my mother broke her ankle. She worked full-time as a waitress. She also had to care for two small children and her car was a manual transmission. No public transport where I'm from so she had to keep driving everywhere,
Seems like your mother was living in a thirld world country.
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Old 09.11.2016, 08:31
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Seems like your mother was living in a thirld world country.
Or rather, many of us here have it so good that we've forgotten what a struggle life was just a generation or two ago.
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Old 09.11.2016, 11:03
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Re: Accident, fell on the side walk because the home owner left wood on the floor

You mentioned a toddler at home. That's going to be a challenge all right, and I can definitely see why your doctor might prescribe additional help. When I had a bad sprain last year mine didn't, and we really struggled without it for the first couple weeks. And my two were still babies at that point, not walking everywhere and having to be chased after! I can really sympathize with your predicament.

Call SUVA - "I've been in an accident," (be prepared to give the case number from the accident form), "and the doctor has prescribed X amount of household and childcare help for X weeks. Can you please help me understand how much of this the accident insurance will cover?"

Unfortunately the answer is probably going to be "none of it." Normally they cover the medical side of home care (changing bandages on a wound etc) but do not cover the household help side, even when these are provided during the same visit by the same person.

Do you have any supplementary health insurance? Might be worth reading through the policy on that and/or giving them a call.

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A few ideas for managing without the extra help, if that turns out to be necessary:

Note: I don't know how big your kid is ("toddler" covers such a dramatic range of abilities) nor whether you have a boy or girl - so apologies if either the gender or the advice is off...

- YMMV but I found crutches to be totally impractical inside the house. There's never anywhere to park them that they won't fall over, or that the kids won't come and take them away to play with. So my crutches lived downstairs by the front door and I crawled up the stairs and then crawled or knee-shuffled my way around the house like some creature out of a horror film. But hey, it worked.

- You mentioned you work, so I'm assuming he is in daycare at least part of the week. Your big problem on those days - apart from getting to work yourself! - is going to be pickup and dropoff. The daycare can certainly help with the physical side of that, wrestling him into his coat and shoes... do you know any of the other moms well enough to ask for help getting to/from the bus stop? Especially if he is on foot, someone to hold his hand while crossing the road is bound to be a big help.

- How old is he? Out of the stroller already? Even if so: it won't hurt him to hop back in it again for a few weeks. I found using our jogging stroller as a granny-walker was a lot easier than walking on crutches - plus no danger of having to chase down a runaway. Of course the flip side is that getting it on and off public transport can be a nightmare, and even at home you have to have somewhere at ground level to park the thing...

- ... which is why you need to contact your neighbors. Explain that you have had an accident, are on crutches for the next 3-6 weeks (or whatever range the doctor anticipates), and so you will have to leave your stroller parked just inside the front door (or locked to the bike rack, or wherever is a convenient place in/around your building) since it's impossible right now to fold it and put it away in the cellar. You wish to thank everyone for their understanding and really hope that it will be for 3 weeks rather than the full 6. (As a side benefit this alerts the neighbors that you are struggling... you may be surprised how many step forward to offer help of one kind or another, once they are aware of the situation.)

- On weekends, and any other days you are at home with him, the biggest problem is going to be exercise. Get someone - a neighbor, another mom from the village playgroup, even hire a babysitter if you need to - but get SOMEONE to take him to the playground, ideally at least once a day, and really tire him out. Even if you have to tag along too (separation anxiety or whatever) you can just sit on a bench and let someone else be the one to chase after him, and he will get way more exercise than staying at home with you. More exercise means better meals, better sleep, and (in my experience so far) also fewer tantrums.

- Are there stairs in your building? Is he comfortable going up and down them safely? If not, you can use a baby carrier... you can strap him onto either your chest or back while sitting down on the sofa, and then crawl or crabwalk your way down the stairs with him attached. Alternatively if you feel he is ready, you can embrace this as the right moment for him to learn how to do stairs: you sit at the bottom of the uppermost flight of stairs (this way he can't go any higher or any lower, and you have a decent chance to catch him if he falls), and just let him practice going up and down, up and down, till he gets the hang of it.

- Other miscellaneous day-to-day logistics: if you usually lift him into his high chair, try parking an adult chair or even a little stepladder next to it and letting him climb up. Same goes for lifting him into his bed, if he still has the kind with sides. Buy some disposable changing mats and then you can change diapers (again, if he still wears them) on the floor or sofa, no need to lift him up to a changing table.

Sorry for the huge wall of text I hope some of it helps you, and I hope even more that insurance miraculously agrees to cover everything and so none of it's necessary!
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A few ideas

You are a rock star

I have family next 2 weeks to help out, thinking of how to cope beyond that time frame. Surgery is being considered as I seem to have torn an irreparable ligament.

I second the crutches thing, it's not my thing at all

Getting better and getting an MRI next week to see the size of the trouble...
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Re: Accident, fell on the side walk because the home owner left wood on the floor

After my accident, which required multiple surgeries and many months of crutches I was offered the assistance of Spitex. They were willing to help out in many ways. My problem was not that I needed to look after young children, but that I have pets.

Spitex said this was not part of their household duties. Preparing meals for young children would be, but feeding dogs was not.

Of course I argued and even wrote a letter of complaint. They said they were willing to help me out with my responsibilities at home, but then decided what was within their coverage.
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Re: Accident, fell on the side walk because the home owner left wood on the floor

Super list, Mathnut! Thanks.

To prevent crutches falling over, you can glue magnets onto the handles. This is an ad for a specific product, but I guess that's not necessary:
https://youtu.be/_p1IBWtcAKw
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Super list, Mathnut! Thanks.

To prevent crutches falling over, you can glue magnets onto the handles. This is an ad for a specific product, but I guess that's not necessary:
https://youtu.be/_p1IBWtcAKw
This is fab! Thank Goddess, I am out of crutches, where there is a will there is a way Results are good, ligaments just partially ripped, doctor says I need to start standing on my feet.

This guy is inspirational
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TEfM5Y8S5M

Another cool video on how to carry a drink with crutches https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YhD4URE5QU

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Results are good, ligaments just partially ripped, doctor says I need to start standing on my feet.
Get good physiotherapy. Someone who works with a mixture of passive (= the physio works on your body) and active (= you do the exercises the physio designs for you).

Typically, a doctor's prescription is for 9 sessions of physio, and with such a prescription (called "Verordnung" in German, with the root word "order", i.e. doctor's orders), the accident insurance or the medical insurance will cover the physiotherapist's bills. 9 sessions usually means one 30-minute session per week.

If you need more frequent physio, or need it beyond the 9th appointment, the doctor is allowed to extend the prescription.

If you cannot even make it to the physiotherapist's practice, he/she can visit you at home. However, for this to be covered by the insurance, the doctor must specify on "Verordnung" that"Domizilbehandlung" (= home treatment) is required.
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