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Old 14.06.2012, 21:11
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

The Junta isn't giving up quickly - The Army can now arrest civilians (not that they didn't do it before, but now they the can do it legaly).

Maybe they will dig up Nasser...
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Old 14.06.2012, 22:19
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The Junta isn't giving up quickly - The Army can now arrest civilians (not that they didn't do it before, but now they the can do it legaly).

Maybe they will dig up Nasser...
You might also care to mention that SCAF has dissolved the Egyptian parliament & the most likely candidate to win the Presidential election is the last President appointed by Mubarek. The new President will have the benefit of no constitution & no Parliament to stop him doing whatever he wants to.

Strange revolution; seems to have evaporated somewhere

(to save people the trouble of reading the article)
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Old 14.06.2012, 22:52
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

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Mowvich was very proud of his friends catching the same kind of "spies" last year. Maybe he changed his mind (or his friends, or both).
Agree, but exactly the example you showed was a product of the Tantawi-chaps. The Egyptians, just as most Mediterraneans and Arabs, have a liking for conspiracy theories and intigues, and this of course is used by both sides.



These posters prove that the idea is not revolutionarily new
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Old 19.06.2012, 08:30
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

Interesting, the Muslim Brotherhood now claim to represent the "revolution"; as I recall they were practically invisible in those days?

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Old 24.06.2012, 16:54
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

We succeeded the first democratic process, we defeated the old regime......We're now the forefront of the opposition against Mulsim Brotherhood....revolution still continues
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Old 24.06.2012, 20:31
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We succeeded the first democratic process, we defeated the old regime......We're now the forefront of the opposition against Mulsim Brotherhood....revolution still continues
In a post a few weeks ago you voted for the MB, now you are in the opposition ?

The MB and the Army will now go thru the same phase as after the 1952 coup - fight behind the scenes for absolute power until a signle victor emerges.
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

it is really sad the MB representative won the elections.. I wonder what will happen to Copts (Christians of Egypt)...
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Old 25.06.2012, 00:38
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In a post a few weeks ago you voted for the MB, now you are in the opposition ?

The MB and the Army will now go thru the same phase as after the 1952 coup - fight behind the scenes for absolute power until a signle victor emerges.
Voting MB was just a tactical move not that i'm convinced....we needed an organized ally to stand against SCAF....that's how MB got +8 million extra votes....now we're back to opposition & gathering forces while they're busy fighting for power...this is how politics work
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Old 25.06.2012, 00:40
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it is really sad the MB representative won the elections.. I wonder what will happen to Copts (Christians of Egypt)...
Nothing will ever happen to Copts, this is something i can guarantee
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Old 25.06.2012, 07:34
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

That's alright then - there are plenty of examples of islamists leading their countries to prosperity, democracy and minority rights.
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Old 28.06.2012, 10:40
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it is really sad the MB representative won the elections.. I wonder what will happen to Copts (Christians of Egypt)...
I saw a statement that he will appoint a Christian vice president & a female vice president.

If he really does this it will be a positive first step.

Next steps will depend on how much power/influence such VPs would be allowed to have.
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

About minorities and the new regime:

Journalist sexually assaulted for 25 minutes by Egyptian mob celebrating Mubarak's downfall (+ video interview)

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If I was an Egyptian woman, I’d run now, a friend said at the weekend when it became clear that the Muslim Brotherhood had won Egypt’s presidential elections...
For all the atrocities committed under his rule, Iraqi women were better off under Saddam Hussein’s regime than they are now.
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Old 28.06.2012, 22:33
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Voting MB was just a tactical move not that i'm convinced....we needed an organized ally to stand against SCAF....that's how MB got +8 million extra votes....now we're back to opposition & gathering forces while they're busy fighting for power...this is how politics work
Mr Mursi is now President. There now is only ONE power limiting his rule and that is Marshal Tantawi and his group. Marshal Tantawi in a way is THE winner of the present situation. As people now have to accept HIS influence onto the leadership of Egypt. The shrewd and careful man never pushed things too much but always kept a calm attitude. At a particular moment of his choice, he will "save the nation"
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Old 05.08.2012, 21:45
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

This attack was bound to happen. The Egyptian police were killed by the weapons they allowed to smuggle to Gaza.
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This attack was bound to happen. The Egyptian police were killed by the weapons they allowed to smuggle to Gaza.
What about logic ? Weapons smuggled into Gaza could not have been used against Egyptian policemen ! So that it either is weapons smuggled into Egypt OR weapons produced in Egypt which got into "wrong hands". My guess is army weapons, or worse, police weapons.
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

Egypt turned a blind eye to weapon smuggling to Gaza and allowed Sinai to become a lawless place - as long as those weapons were used against Israel it didn't do anything to stop them.
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Old 06.08.2012, 12:29
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What about logic ? Weapons smuggled into Gaza could not have been used against Egyptian policemen ! So that it either is weapons smuggled into Egypt OR weapons produced in Egypt which got into "wrong hands". My guess is army weapons, or worse, police weapons.
About "Weapons smuggled into Gaza could not have been used against Egyptian policemen"

In the article quoted it states "According to Egypt's state news agency, the attack was the responsibility of militants from Gaza who entered Egypt through the tunnels beneath the border."

But I suppose they would say that?
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Egypt turned a blind eye to weapon smuggling to Gaza and allowed Sinai to become a lawless place - as long as those weapons were used against Israel it didn't do anything to stop them.
Sharm-el-Sheikh is NOT Israel. But the weapons used were smuggled into Egypt, most likely from Saudi Arabia. The Egyptian law-enforcers had a clear command to stop that smuggling as such weapons were frequently used against Egyptian police.

wrong you are if you believe that anything now willl change, as too many Egyptian law enforcers will close both eyes upon receipt of bribes also in future. You might also look round in Souks from the Atlantic to the Arabian Gulf (for example Sana'a The place you see on the second photo is the Bab al Yemen. Right behind the photographer to your right are market stands where you can purchase Kalashnikovs and comparable hardware
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About "Weapons smuggled into Gaza could not have been used against Egyptian policemen"

In the article quoted it states "According to Egypt's state news agency, the attack was the responsibility of militants from Gaza who entered Egypt through the tunnels beneath the border."

But I suppose they would say that?
Even IF so, I do not believe that those militants smuggled weapons back into Egypt as it is far easier for them to obtain the hardware inside Egypt. Pashosh is not too far from the point when assuming that the Egyptian law enforcers did not overwork themselves by hindering anybody from smuggling weaponry INTO Gaza. You might realize that the population of the Gaza Territory and of the el-Arish- Directorate is more or less the same. MENA, the Egyptian state news agency of course has to try to blame people from Gaza for what happened rather than locals. It may be this way or that way, I simply do not believe everything
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Sharm-el-Sheikh is NOT Israel. But the weapons used were smuggled into Egypt, most likely from Saudi Arabia. The Egyptian law-enforcers had a clear command to stop that smuggling as such weapons were frequently used against Egyptian police.

wrong you are if you believe that anything now willl change, as too many Egyptian law enforcers will close both eyes upon receipt of bribes also in future. You might also look round in Souks from the Atlantic to the Arabian Gulf (for example Sana'a The place you see on the second photo is the Bab al Yemen. Right behind the photographer to your right are market stands where you can purchase Kalashnikovs and comparable hardware
Morsi is now doing a surprisingly good job in this area of tackling Sinai based militants & removing opponents in the security services; let us hope he continues......
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