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Re: D. Strauss-Kahn IMF Director accused of sexual assault

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For some reason, I can't read DSK without thinking about Motorfahrzeugkontrol.

Should I seek help?
Did you tried to rape your motorfahrzeugtkontrol garagist???
That's what you are saying???

New car, excitement... we know! it's over.

You knew what you were doing, so now you have to face the consequences !
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Old 20.05.2011, 14:47
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Umm, no...

'Sauter' is always consensual. And it does not mean 'jump on me' (except to those who use google to understand French).
As this was a reference to my French, thank you very much btw, I consulted a native French speaker, and was confirmed the following:

"Definitely a sexual expression, not quite as strong as rape but close. No consent the way it is said, no equivalent in English, but something like he tried to fu*k me."

Is it clear now, st2lemans?

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Old 20.05.2011, 14:57
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As this was a reference to my French - thank you very much btw.
Is it clear now, st2lemans?
Yes Very clear!


He said "(except to those who use google to understand French)" which clearly means your french is horrible. Someone should attack you and insert a leek in your bottom. Your nasty cr@p we all hate you. Your language skills are worse than a dog's language skills.



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Satisfied now?


PS: change french consultant or try to listen more carefully because it's wrong again.
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Old 20.05.2011, 14:58
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As this was a reference to my French - thank you very much btw. I consulted a native French speaker, and was confirmed the following:

"Definitely a sexual expression, not quite as strong as rape but close. No consent the way it is said, no equivalent in English, but something like he tried to fu*k me."
Yes, that is how I have always understood it.

But f..king is not normally rape, and that (the 'f' word) is the word I would use to translate 'sauter'.

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Old 20.05.2011, 15:02
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Re: D. Strauss-Kahn IMF Director accused of sexual assault

@Coursebou, as I told you before:

Stop trolling.

Your attempts are seriously boring.
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Old 20.05.2011, 15:07
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Re: D. Strauss-Kahn IMF Director accused of sexual assault

I would translate "il a essayé de la sauter" by "he made her a sexual offer". There is no indication of how romantic or violent the offer was, it is just not in it.
One would ask to very close male friends after a night out "alors, tu as essayé de la sauter?" like one ask "so, did you made a move on her?" - it's a perfectly normal thing to do on a night out when done right. The discussion may just be on how it is supposed to be right.
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@Coursebou, as I told you before:

Stop trolling.

Your attempts are seriously boring.

So i'm failing then if I only "attempt"?
Is that similar to your failure to read/write my nickname properly, or to translate french properly or to interpret "except to those who use google to understand French" as an attack? Or maybe it's like confusing a sexual interest with rape?


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So i'm failing then if I only "attempt"?
Is that similar to your failure to read/write my nickname properly, or to translate french properly or to interpret "except to those who use google to understand French" as an attack? Or maybe it's like confusing a sexual interest with rape?


BTW.. What does your profile name means in which language. I tried google translate and it gives "Crossbow" as the nearest match. And why did you return?

Just out of curiousty.. not trying to "sautee" you.
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Old 20.05.2011, 15:28
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I would translate "il a essayé de la sauter" by "he made her a sexual offer". There is no indication of how romantic or violent the offer was, it is just not in it.
One would ask to very close male friends after a night out "alors, tu as essayé de la sauter?" like one ask "so, did you made a move on her?" - it's a perfectly normal thing to do on a night out when done right. The discussion may just be on how it is supposed to be right.
Exactly that's what I said earlier. But it's good to repeat because MR GoogleTranslate does not seems to get it.

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We don't know the details about those "attempts".
We just know that apparently the girls said litterally "Il a essayé de me sauter" which is totally different than "he attacked me" or "he tried to rape me".
So as a french speaker I am telling you that's not "attempted rape".
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I would translate "il a essayé de la sauter" by "he made her a sexual offer". There is no indication of how romantic or violent the offer was, it is just not in it.
One would ask to very close male friends after a night out "alors, tu as essayé de la sauter?" like one ask "so, did you made a move on her?" - it's a perfectly normal thing to do on a night out when done right. The discussion may just be on how it is supposed to be right.
You mean like a chatup line that didnt work?

Imagine if there would be a law against that! Police would be having a tough time arresting people every weekend in bars and clubs!
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Old 20.05.2011, 15:32
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I would translate "il a essayé de la sauter" by "he made her a sexual offer". There is no indication of how romantic or violent the offer was, it is just not in it.
One would ask to very close male friends after a night out "alors, tu as essayé de la sauter?" like one ask "so, did you made a move on her?" - it's a perfectly normal thing to do on a night out when done right. The discussion may just be on how it is supposed to be right.
Yes, now that I think of it, 'baiser' is the equivalent of the 'f' word, and 'sauter' is more like 'get laid', i.e. not as strong.

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Old 20.05.2011, 15:38
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BTW.. What does your profile name means in which language. I tried google translate and it gives "Crossbow" as the nearest match. And why did you return?

Just out of curiousty.. not trying to "sautee" you.
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Re: D. Strauss-Kahn IMF Director accused of sexual assault

Dont try it with me chum...

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You mean like a chatup line that didnt work?
I mean that it is possible in French to have a sentence expressing your sexual intentions without discribing the means you use to express them.
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I mean that it is possible in French to have a sentence expressing your sexual intentions without discribing the means you use to express them.
The last time I was so confused was when a girl asked me "Do you want to come?"
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Old 20.05.2011, 16:07
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Re: D. Strauss-Kahn IMF Director accused of sexual assault

So can we agree that "Do you fancy a shag?" does not constitute rape, attempted or otherwise?
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So can we agree that "Do you fancy a shag?" does not constitute rape, attempted or otherwise?
For a Nation who have a wife for the evening and a mistress for the lunch break, they have made the whole expression thing way too complicated!
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Old 20.05.2011, 16:12
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So can we agree that "Do you fancy a shag?" does not constitute rape, attempted or otherwise?
As long you you do not propose to jump anybodys bones, you should be safe...
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Old 20.05.2011, 16:37
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The last time I was so confused was when a girl asked me "Do you want to come?"
Why? It's a pretty simple scenario isn't it? A yes/no answer is fairly routine under these circumstances, the latter may require some inane thoughts however; so I've been told.
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Re: D. Strauss-Kahn IMF Director accused of sexual assault

In the U.S. the papers are saying DSK is accused of forced oral sex and trying to remove the woman's panties, which is probably considered "attempted rape" and "sodomy". They cut a bit of the hotel carpet the other day looking for DNA evidence. I'm guessing sperm, if it is mixed with her saliva, and she has any skin from him under her finger nails, he is probably in trouble. A immigrant African Muslim woman, if she is soft spoken will make a very sympathetic witness in New York I would guess, especially since this guy is a "big shot" and foreign, and French. Lets face it, look at the stereotypes, it does sway folks, even if subconsciously. We will have to wait until the trial for the facts to come out, but here is what I know:

1) This guy has a bad reputation with women. Maybe flirting to him is sexual harassment to an American, that is very likely, but it won't come off good in an American courtroom if they can introduce evidence of his past (I doubt it, but it is possible).

2) The guy fled the scene, or so it looked like, but I have heard that he already booked the flight ahead of time. Still, the found him because he called the hotel having left something there. Was he in a hurry to leave?

3) The guy did say he had something consensual sex with this woman, but at first he said he was not there. He said he was with his daughter. At least that is what his lawyer said to the media.

4) He was on suicide watch in prison. Why? A normal man accused of something he didn't do, at this state would be defiant, not suicidal.

I do not know if he did it or not, but I think it is more than plausible since he has already admitted to having a consensual relationship with this woman.

If he is not guilty, then he is a fool. Who gets sloppy like that with a hotel maid he does not know? He could have hired an escort or something. I wouldn't want that idiot leading my country he obviously takes risks on the verge of stupidity. He knows he has enemies doesn't he? He knows Sarkozy and maybe even the Germans would like him removed from the picture.

If he is guilty, and I think that is also likely, he deserves to do 5 years in prison in upstate New York. he might get sentenced to more but he won't serve the entire time, that's the way the system works in the states. American prison is not some European resort prison where you can have all your stuff, books, tv, clothes, etc. He will do "hard time". He will have to serve time in isolation or he himself might end up raped. :-O some folks would like to blackmail him too, kill a famous guy, etc.
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