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Old 20.05.2011, 21:55
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In the U.S. the papers are saying DSK is accused of forced oral sex and trying to remove the woman's panties, which is probably considered "attempted rape" and "sodomy". They cut a bit of the hotel carpet the other day looking for DNA evidence. I'm guessing sperm, if it is mixed with her saliva, and she has any skin from him under her finger nails, he is probably in trouble. A immigrant African Muslim woman, if she is soft spoken will make a very sympathetic witness in New York I would guess, especially since this guy is a "big shot" and foreign, and French. Lets face it, look at the stereotypes, it does sway folks, even if subconsciously. We will have to wait until the trial for the facts to come out, but here is what I know:

1) This guy has a bad reputation with women. Maybe flirting to him is sexual harassment to an American, that is very likely, but it won't come off good in an American courtroom if they can introduce evidence of his past (I doubt it, but it is possible).

2) The guy fled the scene, or so it looked like, but I have heard that he already booked the flight ahead of time. Still, the found him because he called the hotel having left something there. Was he in a hurry to leave?

3) The guy did say he had something consensual sex with this woman, but at first he said he was not there. He said he was with his daughter. At least that is what his lawyer said to the media.

4) He was on suicide watch in prison. Why? A normal man accused of something he didn't do, at this state would be defiant, not suicidal.

I do not know if he did it or not, but I think it is more than plausible since he has already admitted to having a consensual relationship with this woman.

If he is not guilty, then he is a fool. Who gets sloppy like that with a hotel maid he does not know? He could have hired an escort or something. I wouldn't want that idiot leading my country he obviously takes risks on the verge of stupidity. He knows he has enemies doesn't he? He knows Sarkozy and maybe even the Germans would like him removed from the picture.

If he is guilty, and I think that is also likely, he deserves to do 5 years in prison in upstate New York. he might get sentenced to more but he won't serve the entire time, that's the way the system works in the states. American prison is not some European resort prison where you can have all your stuff, books, tv, clothes, etc. He will do "hard time". He will have to serve time in isolation or he himself might end up raped. :-O some folks would like to blackmail him too, kill a famous guy, etc.
What is your source for his admission that he had consensual sex with the hotel maid in New York?
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Old 20.05.2011, 22:07
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oulala!

Part 1:
Does anyone needs to reply to your question, seriously?

So when you "attempted to shag" some girls, did you had consent even before starting the attempt? Please share with us your proceedings, are you:

a. Sending them a recorded mail 2 weeks before saying your intentions and arranging a meeting?
b.Saying your intentions during the first drink: "hello I'm Mr Rss, will it be ok if I shag you after the drinks? I would not want to risk attempting to shag you!
c.Avoiding any physical contact with your date just in case it's seen as "attempted to shag"?
d.Letting the girl do everything just in case you attempt to shag her?



Part 2:
You're off topic.
Have you realised "Sauter" was the expression used by 15 "friends" of the "popular TV host"?
Forget the defense, the current trial because that was not related to "SAUTER".

If you would read the other posts instead of a aligning yours...
I'm talking about the actual time right before, and attempting to shag would involve a physical act, not chatting girls up at the bar. And even if you did and they were cool with you they can take away their consent at any time.
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Who gets sloppy like that with a hotel maid he does not know?
That's an easy one to answer: most French men with power, and with just any woman. Exceptions possible but you'll have a hard time convincing me.
There is absolutely no possible understanding between Americans and French about sex. DSK was in the US, and in Rom, do like the Romans...
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Old 21.05.2011, 00:31
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What is your source for his admission that he had consensual sex with the hotel maid in New York?
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...#ixzz1Mcs7LvN0

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France's leading presidential candidate may have pounced on a Manhattan hotel maid -- but she wanted it, his lawyer asserted in court yesterday, hinting at what could be an explosive defense.
"The evidence, we believe, will not be consistent with a forcible encounter," said Ben Brafman, the high-powered lawyer of IMF chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn, at the suspect's sensational arraignment in a packed criminal courtroom.
A source close to the defense later told The Post, "There may well have been consent.
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Leaking things from sources "close to the defense" is not strange in America, it is normal.

In any case the lawyer did not deny anything happened, they just said "oh there was no force" and then it leaked that it was likely consensual. Uhm...

Obviously if someone didn't even touch the woman they would say that they would not say 'there was no force". lol
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Old 21.05.2011, 02:53
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Lawyers are bound ethically to provide the best possible legal defense for their clients. Communication between defendant and lawyer would be privileged. His lawyers will try to disprove "beyond a reasonable doubt" which is not the same as proving totally innocent.
And the defence lawyer will of course try to press through the position that there is no real proof, and a lot of exaggeration
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Old 21.05.2011, 10:46
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http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...#ixzz1Mcs7LvN0





Leaking things from sources "close to the defense" is not strange in America, it is normal.

In any case the lawyer did not deny anything happened, they just said "oh there was no force" and then it leaked that it was likely consensual. Uhm...

Obviously if someone didn't even touch the woman they would say that they would not say 'there was no force". lol
k, not so sure about the Post as a source, but anyway, this guy is too much. He goes on about loving his wife, and his total innocence,then it may turn out that he had consensual attempted sexual encounter with a maid in a hotel. I think people are reading into his lawyers words and trying to drum up stories before the trial.
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Old 23.05.2011, 15:30
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Re: D. Strauss-Kahn IMF Director accused of sexual assault

Just read a fascinating (well, to me at least ) Op-Ed column in the NY Times, Who Will Play Strauss-Kahn?:
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To most Americans, the tale of Dominique Strauss-Kahn probably seems like fodder for a “Law and Order” episode, or maybe a cable-TV message movie. He’s just another high-profile man behaving badly, part Arnold Schwarzenegger and part Ben Roethlisberger and more obscure than both.

But the story of the I.M.F. director charged with sexually assaulting a hotel maid is actually a natural fit for a more high-minded genre. In the hands of the right screenwriter, Strauss-Kahn’s arrest could be the central thread in one of those sprawling, complex, kaleidoscope-of-globalization movies that aspire to Oscar glory. Think “Traffic” or “Syriana,” “Crash” or “Babel”: the kind of movie that leapfrogs around the planet, shifting from place to place and perspective to perspective in an effort to bring an entire Big Issue into focus.

Instead of the war on drugs or race relations in Los Angeles, though, the subject of this movie would be the potential collapse of the European Union.
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Old 23.05.2011, 22:19
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Re: D. Strauss-Kahn IMF Director accused of sexual assault

From today's newspaper

"DNA samples taken in the Dominique Strauss-Kahn case have confirmed traces of sperm on the maid's dress, according to reports.
The New York Police sent the test results to French authorities on Sunday where they allegedly confirmed the trace. The results are expected to be made public shortly. "

If true this would be a significant step?
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Re: D. Strauss-Kahn IMF Director accused of sexual assault

This is getting more grotesque by the day. They must be taking lessons from Berlusconi.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ly-Guinea.html

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Old 24.05.2011, 16:23
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This is getting more grotesque by the day. They must be taking lessons from Berlusconi.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ly-Guinea.html
Well just sitting around waiting for the trial will likely cost a million or two; might as well pay the maid off instead
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Dominique Strauss-Kahn told a New York City hotel maid, “Don’t you know who I am! Don’t you know who I am?” while pinning her down during the alleged sexual assault, law enforcement sources close to the investigation told FoxNews.com.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/05/23...ed-sex-attack/

...ah, of course, with politician-types it's all about the power and the gloryhole
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Re: D. Strauss-Kahn IMF Director accused of sexual assault

Here we go again...

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An Egyptian businessman has followed in the footsteps of pervy Frenchman Dominique Strauss-Kahn - sexually abusing a maid in a swanky Manhattan hotel, police said Monday night.

Mahmoud Abdel-Salam Omar, 74, former head of the Bank of Alexandria and now chairman of a leading Middle Eastern salt company, is accused of locking the 44-year-old hotel employee inside his $900-a-night room at The Pierre on E. 61st St. off Fifth Ave.
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Old 31.05.2011, 11:20
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Here we go again...
Question is "are these isolated incidents or just the tip of an iceberg of previously unreported incidents of bankers regularily taking advantage of hotel employees?"
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From today's newspaper

"DNA samples taken in the Dominique Strauss-Kahn case have confirmed traces of sperm on the maid's dress, according to reports.
The New York Police sent the test results to French authorities on Sunday where they allegedly confirmed the trace. The results are expected to be made public shortly. "

If true this would be a significant step?
I read that the signicant step is that he ejaculated. Raped or consensual?
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Old 31.05.2011, 12:45
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I read that the signicant step is that he ejaculated. Raped or consensual?
That goes into my "too much info" book. 70 yr old man ? gross
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Question is "are these isolated incidents or just the tip of an iceberg of previously unreported incidents of bankers regularily taking advantage of hotel employees?"
Maybe there's something lost in translation when offering "Maid Service".
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This is getting more grotesque by the day. They must be taking lessons from Berlusconi.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ly-Guinea.html
So at last, someone has admitted to reading the Daily Mail.
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I read that the signicant step is that he ejaculated. Raped or consensual?
Ah
so the maid walked in to clean the place
was immediately overcome with lust for this 70 year old man
& then went into the 2 humped camel routine

Probability on a scale of 1 to 100 somewhere in the negative numbers?
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Ah
so the maid walked in to clean the place
was immediately overcome with lust for this 70 year old man
& then went into the 2 humped camel routine

Probability on a scale of 1 to 100 somewhere in the negative numbers?
I don't believe it, but I'd guess the defence will spin it;

so the maid walked in to clean the place
Immediately thought "Ker-ching!"
& then went into the 2 humped camel routine
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Maybe there's something lost in translation when offering "Maid Service".
I suppose when you pay $3K or more a night for a room you might think the staff would bend over backwards to please?
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