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Old 02.07.2011, 16:07
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I don't think the public should care about the private life of a politician. How many times he was married or if he had an affair is not a factor when looking at his professional record. Peole would not care when employing somebody for a private company either - its the skillset and the experiences that count.
It's a perfectly valid opinion and I wouldn't argue with you for having that. After all it's your right and nobody is a saint. I daresay many would agree.

Speaking only for myself though, I can't be as black and white. For me it depends on the type of job.

When I employ a plumber, I don't care how many times he's been married or if he two times his wife. All I care about are his experience and technical skills. Ditto a popstar or sportsman. After all, I don't pay them and their behavior won't affect me.

However when I'm looking for a childminder, I want to know more. I certainly care more about their background and character.

And so, for me at least, when it comes to elected officials and political appointees, I am interested in how they behave off stage because that gives insights into the type of people they really are. Their fitness to lead goes beyond skillset and years of experience and onward into the realms of judgement and character. Why should it? Nothing to do with morals. But because things like judgement and character affect their decisions and through their influence, over the decision making of others. These decisions affect more than themselves. They affect me.

So I, for one, would take into consideration the behavior of public and elected officials off camera. Not least because these positions bring power.
What is it they say? Power is an aphrodisiac. I'd like to know if the person I'm voting for has the character, judgement and self discipline to be able to handle that, to use that power for the benefit of the public and not abuse that power to serve their own ends.

In the end, anyone eligible can run for office. It's up to the voters how they decide. That's how it should be.
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Old 02.07.2011, 18:09
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Re: D. Strauss-Kahn IMF Director accused of sexual assault

I must admit that I very much like how you compare a politician to a baby sitter...

Quite some of the probably better politicians do have some weaknesses and that includes morals. For example the Kennedies... did JFKs sexual escapades make him a less brilliant leader?
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The man lost his (very well paid) job, got pushed through the dirt on every last French paper on the front page for weeks... I think he cannot successfully come back so quickly - the majority of left wing voters are women and they might not entirely like his track record and attitude towards them - no matter if he raped or not.
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I am really not into conspiration theories, but Sarkozy is one of the guys that I would have on my list to be capable of planning this as a smear campaign.
The only country where "creative sexuality" is not a handicape for politics, it's France. No problem, he could be back on track next in september, but not the track he was beforeon, a new one. He just have such friends in the French media, so that it was in big letters everywhere when it happened. I don't think it matters that much to the French public what kind of sex he had and with whom. Even accusation against a former minister to have sex with young male adults in Marocco didn't catch on. Former president Giscard wrote a novel about him and Lady Diana in erotic terms, Chirac is shown on youtube doing some "charme" to an assistent just in the back of his wife who was holding a speech. just in front of his nose.. it's France. Sex is never a problem. Violence and injustice are however biggies: falsely accused and the guy is popular for the next couple of years no matter what.

Nobody beleaves in a French conspiracy, as noone thinks that Sarkozy would have so much influence in Amerika. It would have to be Americans who get it organized and followed through. No way Sarkozy has such friends in the US. The question is whether the IMF wanted to get DSK off the boat.... but the IMF didn't need such a complot for that: DSK candidate for the presidential elections means that he leaves the IMF, there was no doubt at all that he was leaving the place. To me, it was pure criminal doing for money. He just had bad luck with the timing.
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Old 02.07.2011, 23:00
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Well, he probably went to a hooker.
You're closer to the truth than you realise.

Turns out that this girl was offering extra "guest services" on the side. New York Post

Here's my shameless speculation as to what happened in that room:
So I reckon she offers DSK sex for money and being a sleazeball, he agrees. This his how the sex (oral) was consensual - it wasn't his French charm causing her to spontaneously drop to her knees. After receiving a BJ, an argument develops - maybe DSK thought he deserved more for his money?
DSK throws her out, hence the marks on her wrists, and threatens to report her to the hotel.
She goes to another room and cleans it. The hotel's electronic keycard system logs her entering the room. She starts to panic that she'll lose her job if he reports her and decides to pre-emptively lodge a complaint.
First she waits until DSK leaves his room. She then re-enters his room. (Again this was logged). Why? Maybe to remove a condom wrapper?
DSK checks out and doesn't report her. After all, prostitution is illegal in NY and he doesn't want the attention.
Then she reports a sexual assault to her supervisor. At this point she doesn't know who he is. The hotel do know who he is through and escalate to the police. Now it's out of her control. DSK is tracked down and arrested.
She then learns that he's wealthy and thinks there may be some benefit in pursuing the case. She calls her boyfriend in jail for advice.

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Re: D. Strauss-Kahn IMF Director accused of sexual assault

And Anne Sinclair? There she still is by his side, through it all. How does she manage? No matter what he did in this situation, and I'm with you on the last speculation, what's harder for me to understand is how she can smile in front of the cameras like that. I'd be .
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Old 03.07.2011, 00:39
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And Anne Sinclair? There she still is by his side, through it all. How does she manage? No matter what he did in this situation, and I'm with you on the last speculation, what's harder for me to understand is how she can smile in front of the cameras like that. I'd be .
Anne Sinclair wants to be France's first lady...that's her ambition and she's betting On the horse (stallion) DSK.
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Re: D. Strauss-Kahn IMF Director accused of sexual assault

I have a French friend who named his bull "DSK" 5 years ago.

I wouldn't want to be First Lady if it meant appearing loyal to that unlawful, randy bloke. It would seem that she has better options than that.
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I have a French friend who named his bull "DSK" 5 years ago.

I wouldn't want to be First Lady if it meant appearing loyal to that unlawful, randy bloke. It would seem that she has better options than that.
What did Hillary Clinton when the scandal Lewinsky started? Anne Sinclair is doing the same.
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I must admit that I very much like how you compare a politician to a baby sitter...

Quite some of the probably better politicians do have some weaknesses and that includes morals. For example the Kennedies... did JFKs sexual escapades make him a less brilliant leader?
Besides the Cuban Missile Crisis, what exactly did JFK do again?

Escalate us in Vietnam.

Get us into the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Sleep with a lot of women.

Largely ignored the Civil Rights Movements (in reality, although he talked really nice, did nothing...that was almost all Johnson).

Get shot.
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Old 03.07.2011, 11:37
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Besides the Cuban Missile Crisis, what exactly did JFK do again?

Escalate us in Vietnam.

Get us into the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Sleep with a lot of women.

Largely ignored the Civil Rights Movements (in reality, although he talked really nice, did nothing...that was almost all Johnson).

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Re: D. Strauss-Kahn IMF Director accused of sexual assault

According to a recent poll published Sunday 3 July:

- 49% of french in favour of DSK return in politics
- 45% of french against DSK his return in politics

Among the supporters of left parties:
- 60% support DSK's return to politics and goes up to 65% among socialist party supporters.
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Old 03.07.2011, 14:49
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Are you sure?

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Anne Sinclair wants to be France's first lady...that's her ambition and she's betting On the horse (stallion) DSK.
Frankly, I think she just loves him. She doesn't need to be first lady, she would be far less powerful and less respected as first lady than she ever was before. A French first lady is a human rights watcher and a haute couture ambassadeur... Anne Saint Claire deserves far better and she had it all before meeting DSK. And his unfaithfulness is nothing new either, she is an adult woman who is able to decide about her life, with or without him given those facts. But the Sofitelgate does not change anything to their relation, it was all known before and will be after. It seems perhaps a big scandal in other cultures, but in France, it's just the normal situation. It was not different with the other presidents and quite a few government big shots either. No scandal either when Michel Noir, ex minister said that the biggest problem for international business in Lyon is the lack of luxury call girls. Sex is never a problem in French politics.
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Are you sure?
I think the NASA was created under his presidency and as leader pushed the vision. Googlesearch gave the 25 May 1961 speech to the congress where JFK said:
"I believe that this nation should commit itself to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of landing a man on the moon and returning him safely to Earth."
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Re: D. Strauss-Kahn IMF Director accused of sexual assault

New Sexual Assault charges filed against SDK in France. LOL

He's done, as far as higher politics. Being rich, white, sexy, and French, I'm thinking folks will believe her.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/d...ex-charge.html
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Re: D. Strauss-Kahn IMF Director accused of sexual assault

It comes at the right moment to have the maximum "complot theory" effect in the media.
Already heard today: she was pushed by right wing just to make a come back impossible. Just in case the US case ends quickly. Rumours have started, be ready for good two years of them. In all directions.
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Re: D. Strauss-Kahn IMF Director accused of sexual assault

& now the new IMF director is being investigated over a 285 Million handout to a Sarkozy supporter achieved by by ordering a special panel of judges to arbitrate an out-of-court settlement.
A judicial inquiry will now examine Lagarde's decision to order arbitration instead of letting the Tapie affair be decided by the courts. It will also consider whether she refused expert advice to appeal against the huge payout, simply allowing Tapie to walk away with his cheque.

Lovely people these IMF presidents............
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Charges dismissed.
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Re: D. Strauss-Kahn IMF Director accused of sexual assault

"French press reports cited several unnamed sources as claiming prostitutes travelled to New York from France late last year and in May for sex sessions with the former International Monetary Fund chief."


Good to see people support home industries.
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Re: D. Strauss-Kahn IMF Director accused of sexual assault

"GerardDepardieu is to star as Dominique Strauss-Kahn in a film about thefall of the shamed former chief of the International Monetary Fund. "

Sounds like a cruel & inhuman punishment
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