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Old 17.05.2011, 00:39
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The key here is timing. For the elections, it absolutely does not matter if he did it or not - he will most likely miss the socialist pre-elections. And which party member would seriously vote for a candidate locked up in a New York prison hoping he is innocent? Not when it comes to a presidential campain. The twist is that DSK was known for his, er, "weakness" and there are few people with more enemies in France right now... Sarkozy must have been afarid of him and many socialists did not want him to be the candidate either.

I am normally not buying any conspiracy theories, but this event is just too bizarre to be true without anything hidden underneath. The one guy that could become dangerous for the president rapes a hotel cleaner just before the pre-elections... and on the other side is a president that was unscrupuluous before when he misused the secret service to spy on journalists he did not like.
all correct, but the person who possibly profits most is Ségolène Royal, whose chances to regain the Socialist candidacy were ruined by DSK, and how now in in the race again.
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Old 17.05.2011, 00:50
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Re: D. Strauss-Kahn IMF Director accused of sexual assault

Segolene Royal's ex husband holland has more chances. Tonight he is even given the favorite. And before Royal there is Aubry to thing about!
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Old 17.05.2011, 01:06
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what i don't understand is that they can make such a statement when the DNA results will not be found until another 3 days.

But it is true that they found some scratching on his body which showes that he might have been involved in a fight!

The other thing I don't understand is why would he have phoned the sofitel on his way to the Airport to ask them to return to him the mobile phone he'd forgotten in his room? He was supposed to have left in a rush and the last thing he would have wanted was for the police to trace him and locate him at the airport with a phone call?
DNA - Why 3 days? If the pressure is on then they can get a preliminary result very quickly (for example - Bin Laden); maybe not good enough for evidence in a court of law but enough to give a good indication - then they can do the full procedure at their leisure.
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Old 17.05.2011, 02:48
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Ok, but still would have loved to see his face.
Me to
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all correct, but the person who possibly profits most is Ségolène Royal, whose chances to regain the Socialist candidacy were ruined by DSK, and how now in in the race again.
haha.
Not a chance.

She screwed herself "a few too many" times.
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Old 17.05.2011, 10:13
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DNA - Why 3 days? If the pressure is on then they can get a preliminary result very quickly (for example - Bin Laden); maybe not good enough for evidence in a court of law but enough to give a good indication - then they can do the full procedure at their leisure.
Why should the New York police hurry? That costs money and de-prioritizes other analyses. He may be a well-known person on the world stage, but the fact of the matter is that he's accused of a simple (note: not saying unimportant, far from it) crime, and there's no reason for the cops to do anything other than follow standard process.
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They do the room once the client has left the room not before. She was (wrongly) told by an employee that room was empty
HAHA-
Yes.
The staff member working there for 3 years, very reliable, that everyone "vouch for".
Everyone vouched for her too:


Or for her:

The little angel with cute eyes, bending the head. The right angle to make her poorly victim.



So that cleaning lady was there 3 years?
It is said against that man that he was famous for such incidents in the same Sofitel hotel, New York.

So that cleaning lady, 3 years there, never ever heard from the colleagues he was "dangerous"? She entered his room without even checking if he was in?
She did not hear the shower?
Also what about the room key, he was hidden inside, no lights?
What about the doors? I never been in a hotel where they close the doors during cleaning. Never.



Bullocks-
The managers hardly knows her because they don't give a damn and they don't discuss with them. They are cleaning their rooms in a rush and go home.

Also it's really strange that she entered his room like that.



But medias... crapmixing and spreading all the time.

We need not forget that:

Looking less "cute" and a bit more aggressive than the nice make up version.


Or that monster above.

Or that one:

Who said 10 years after he tried to rape her in a crappy TV popular show. She never reported it to be scared to be seen as the "woman against the politician".... Women and fame....


The point is to stay away from the stereotype "women are victims" because they are as capable of men.
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Old 17.05.2011, 10:30
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HAHA-

The little angel with cute eyes, bending the head. The right angle to make her poorly victim.



So that cleaning lady was there 3 years?
It is said against that man that he was famous for such incidents in the same Sofitel hotel, New York.

So that cleaning lady, 3 years there, never ever heard from the colleagues he was "dangerous"? She entered his room without even checking if he was in?
She did not hear the shower?
Also what about the room key, he was hidden inside, no lights?
What about the doors? I never been in a hotel where they close the doors during cleaning. Never.



Bullocks-
The managers hardly knows her because they don't give a damn and they don't discuss with them. They are cleaning their rooms in a rush and go home.

Also it's really strange that she entered his room like that.



But medias... crapmixing and spreading all the time.

We need not forget that:

Looking less "cute" and a bit more aggressive than the nice make up version.


Or that monster above.

Or that one:

Who said 10 years after he tried to rape her in a crappy TV popular show. She never reported it to be scared to be seen as the "woman against the politician".... Women and fame....


The point is to stay away from the stereotype "women are victims" because they are as capable of men.
Have you ever been in a $3k per night suite? Which door are you referring to? How come you know so many facts, maybe you should call the prosecutors office and let him know !
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Old 17.05.2011, 10:33
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Have you ever been in a $3k per night suite? Which door are you referring to? How come you know so many facts, maybe you should call the prosecutors office and let him know !
No, fair enough-

It's just observation against the quick stereotypes I see everywhere:
"she is a victim", "they are always victims".

You right the suite is different probably- so the door thing is irrelevant.


The inspectors are doing their investigation. In the meantime let's avoid spreading stereotype crap on women.
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Old 17.05.2011, 11:15
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Re: D. Strauss-Kahn IMF Director accused of sexual assault

Whatever, the guy is now an accused sex offender in a New York jail.
I would not want to be in his shoes.....
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Old 17.05.2011, 14:00
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Even if he's proven innocent it's over for him. What a terrible image.
The Tarpeian rock is so close to the Capitoline hill.

Look at the guy to the left of DSK...I like his tie, very colorful hehe and his blazer...2 sizes bigger than it should be hehe
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Old 17.05.2011, 14:10
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Re: D. Strauss-Kahn IMF Director accused of sexual assault

So, the alibi changed. Now the defense is that it wasn't a "forcible encounter". So, certainly something happened between them. It's turning into a "he said, she said". Doesn't look too good for him, I must say.
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So, the alibi changed. Now the defense is that it wasn't a "forcible encounter". So, certainly something happened between them. It's turning into a "he said, she said". Doesn't look too good for him, I must say.
Yeah because whatever true or not, he is not in the "legal system" mechanic. Where one has to think differently than " I did it/ I Did not do it". Especially when some terrible consequences can happen based on an important evidence: a witness statement.

Perjury is possible and can have extremely influence on the jury...

Still not defending the guy, I let the inspectors do their job.
But I quite dislike seeing comments on how "she is the victim" immediately.
Because after all he might be innocent.
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Old 17.05.2011, 14:40
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HAHA-
Yes.
The staff member working there for 3 years, very reliable, that everyone "vouch for".
Everyone vouched for her too...
I didn't recognise any of those women, so it's difficult to get your point.
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I didn't recognise any of those women, so it's difficult to get your point.
1st one is the multi recidivist who kidnapped and killed young girls.
Marc dutroux's wife.
She's been released early probably because she was a poor victim, innocent etc... Then oops she did it again.

2nd one is florence cassez. The one who lived over a year with a man in mexico. In his very luxury house, where he kept kidnapped people. Of course she did not know and she never wondered where the money's from (you know, as in Disney's story she was just the ignorant princess).
So when they got caught, she claimed she knew nothing at all. Then the media campaigned for her by spreading those pictures where she is nicely maked up, victim, poor baby eyes. Lot of retards defending her; it's also the reason why relationships France/Mexico are tense (because french crap accused Mexican police of lying).
So second "innocent victim" that many people need to defend.

3rd one is the terrible victim of DSK rape. She said how he layed her on the floor while she has her turtle neck tshirt, unbuttoned her bra, and tried to rape her while she was debating. (don't ask how nobody know). She had no marks or anything and no bruises under that approx 100KG man.
But yet 10 years after she nicely warned other women by telling her story, I mean the 100% entirely true facts, to a crap popular TV show.
Of course she has not been to the police station because she did not want to be seen as the "woman having problems with a politician".


So those women are innocent victims abused by terrible men.
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Old 17.05.2011, 17:07
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Look at the guy to the left of DSK...I like his tie, very colorful hehe and his blazer...2 sizes bigger than it should be hehe
That's not too big, but an "American cut suit"... I learned it on EF: Suggestions for Men's Suit shopping?

Men in terribly wrong sized suits seems to be an American phenomenon and since this picture is taken in NYC...
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Re: D. Strauss-Kahn IMF Director accused of sexual assault

What I fail to understand is, why is he sent to rough Rikers Island jail?

He could very well be a serial criminal and deserve to be there, but he has not been convicted yet. After conviction, yes.
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What I fail to understand is, why is he sent to rough Rikers Island jail?

He could very well be a serial criminal and deserve to be there, but he has not been convicted yet. After conviction, yes.
If I am not mistaken, in theory in the US you have to prove you are not guilty. While in France you are innocent until proven guilty*.

*of course that's in theory, the guy is already "guilty" for 60% of retar...erm the french population.
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If I am not mistaken, in theory in the US you have to prove you are not guilty. While in France you are innocent until proven guilty*.

*of course that's in theory, the guy is already "guilty" for 60% of retar...erm the french population.
You're mistaken. That'd be a rather backwards system of justice - you might want to go back to unrelated and irrelevant examples of ... whatever it was you were trying to claim.
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What I fail to understand is, why is he sent to rough Rikers Island jail?

He could very well be a serial criminal and deserve to be there, but he has not been convicted yet. After conviction, yes.
He was refused bail wasn't he? So they think he might do a runner.

The US did just have an extraditiion case with Switzerland after another high profile guy jumped bail many years ago over a rape.
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