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Old 27.06.2011, 13:39
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Keep Monsanto out of Switzerland.

One thing that I really respect the Swiss for is that they have not allowed Monsanto to get a grip.
Here is the latest in their list of atrocities, this time about Round-up pesticide which I am sure is linked to contributing to Autism spectrum conditions:

http://thestir.cafemom.com/in_the_ne...dnt_care_about
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Old 27.06.2011, 13:42
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Re: Keep Monsanto out of Switzerland.

Nestle aren't exactly whiter than white.
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Old 27.06.2011, 13:44
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Re: Keep Monsanto out of Switzerland.

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One thing that I really respect the Swiss for is that they have not allowed Monsanto to get a grip.
Here is the latest in their list of atrocities, this time about Round-up pesticide which I am sure is linked to contributing to Autism spectrum conditions:

http://thestir.cafemom.com/in_the_ne...dnt_care_about
The problem is that 99% of all soybeans are GMO. That makes the world addicted to products that Monsanto creates. They need to make GM soybeans illegal.
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Old 27.06.2011, 15:02
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Re: Keep Monsanto out of Switzerland.

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One thing that I really respect the Swiss for is that they have not allowed Monsanto to get a grip.
Here is the latest in their list of atrocities, this time about Round-up pesticide which I am sure is linked to contributing to Autism spectrum conditions:

http://thestir.cafemom.com/in_the_ne...dnt_care_about
So people are finally giving up on the discredited 'mercury in the vaccinations' theory? What about the genetic theory?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/sc...y-1996221.html
How about that it seems to be heritable but that autistic children tend to be born to non-autistic parents? Your theories tend to be wish-based rather than science-based.
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Old 27.06.2011, 16:31
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Re: Keep Monsanto out of Switzerland.

Confused article mixing herbicides & genetically modified plants into one big pot.

The whole idea of genetically modified plants is to give them characteristics that they do not normally have, for example, resistance to insect attacks so they do not have to be sprayed with insecticides.

Monsanto muddied the water by producing GMO seeds which are resistant to the Roundup herbicide so allowing farmers to spray Roundup all over.
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Old 27.06.2011, 17:35
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Confused article mixing herbicides & genetically modified plants into one big pot.

The whole idea of genetically modified plants is to give them characteristics that they do not normally have, for example, resistance to insect attacks so they do not have to be sprayed with insecticides.

Monsanto muddied the water by producing GMO seeds which are resistant to the Roundup herbicide so allowing farmers to spray Roundup all over.
Monsanto have destroyed many small-holding farmers here in the US. There are famous cases where Monsanto GM grain has accidentally mixed with the grain from a small-holding. Monsanto Industrial spies find evidence of the mixing and then sue the unsuspecting farmer. GM grains are not only made resistant to certain pests but conversely some are produced as annuals only; the grain from the plant will not reproduce. If this was to somehow mix (I can't work out how!) with non GM crop, the result could be disastrous.
Anyway perhaps this is a better article, I just get fed up of quoting from Huff Post- it isn't as good as it used to be.

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Critics have argued for decades that glyphosate, the active ingredient in Roundup and other herbicides used around the globe, poses a serious threat to public health. Industry regulators, however, appear to have consistently overlooked their concerns
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_883578.html

Glyphosates are used in Switzerland, but I don't think that Nestle have the power of Monsanto, maybe I am wrong

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The comparison of the agricultural application and the seasonal concentration and load pattern in the main creek from March to November revealed that the occurrence of glyphosate cannot be explained by agricultural use only. Extrapolations from agricultural loss rates and from concentrations found in the urban drainage system showed that more than half of the load during selected rain events originates from urban areas. The inputs from the effluent of the wastewater treatment plant, the overflow of the combined sewer system and of the separate sewer system summed up to 60% of the total load.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...45653510007411
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Old 27.06.2011, 17:49
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Re: Keep Monsanto out of Switzerland.

I think with Syngenta's world headquarters located in Switzerland, it is safe to say that Monsanto hasn't got a chance in Switzerland.
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I just get fed up of quoting from Huff Post- it isn't as good as it used to be.
Ever since she sold it off to AOL, it went downhill. It's no longer cutting edge or original the way it once was.

Off topic, I know.
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Old 27.06.2011, 18:02
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Re: Keep Monsanto out of Switzerland.

Having worked on the GM Corn project briefly many moons ago and the shoddy, shoddy 'science' going on there with mostly contract folks in the lab, I can wholeheartedly support anyone keeping them far, far away. Folks who think Google is evil...have no idea what evil is.
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Old 27.06.2011, 18:06
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...this time about Round-up pesticide which I am sure is linked to contributing to Autism spectrum conditions...
Round up is a herbicide, isn't it?

Now you've made the link, of course it's now correct to say "is linked". You've just linked it. Btw, the EPA consider glyphosphates to be among the least harmful of weed-killers.
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Old 27.06.2011, 18:46
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Round up is a herbicide, isn't it?

Now you've made the link, of course it's now correct to say "is linked". You've just linked it. Btw, the EPA consider glyphosphates to be among the least harmful of weed-killers.
Yes you are right it is a very effective herbacide sorry about the confusion. However I read stuff like this and get confused:

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Monsanto’s Roundup Pesticide Link to Birth Defects Hidden from Public


http://www.organicauthority.com/blog...n-from-public/

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Cell-cycle dysregulation is a hallmark of tumor cells and human cancers. Failure in the cell-cycle checkpoints leads to genomic instability
and subsequent development of cancers from the initial affected cell. A worldwide used product Roundup 3plus, based on glyphosate as the
active herbicide, was suggested to be of human health concern since it induced cell cycle dysfunction as judged from analysis of the first cell
division of sea urchin embryos, a recognized model for cell cycle studies.
Several glyphosate-based pesticides from different manufacturers were assayed in comparison with Roundup 3plus for their ability to
interfere with the cell cycle regulation. All the tested products, Amega, Cargly, Cosmic, and Roundup Biovert induced cell cycle dysfunction.
The threshold concentration for induction of cell cycle dysfunction was evaluated for each product and suggests high risk by inhalation for
people in the vicinity of the pesticide handling sprayed at 500 to 4000 times higher dose than the cell-cycle adverse concentration
http://www.biolcell.org/boc/096/0245/boc0960245.pdf

So I think that it can act as a pesticide as well, although marketed as a herbicide and supposedly safe for pets.

I have been agonizing, about using it again. I hate to admit to using it in the past. I have a 1/2 acre to mange and it's tough. I used it and then tried to keep the birds off the patch, upset at them being poisoned. So I guess this recent news has clinched it, my hands are going to be red raw from pulling weeds. My neighbors in Switzerland wouldn't use it, so I ma kind of surprised that glyphosates are found in such high quantities in domestic run-off

As for the EPA declaring it safe- I am very critical on the relationship between big business and Governmental Administrative agencies such as the EPA. Monsanto's lobbyists must be amongst the slickest.
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