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43 killed, 2 survive as Russian charter flight crashes

A Yak-42 has crashed after failing to climb out after takeoff from Yaroslavl, bound for Belarus, with members of the Lokomotiv Yaroslavl hockey team on board, heading for their first match of the season against Dynamo Minsk. After it struck the ground, parts of the aircfafr ended up in the adjacent river.

The Emergency Ministry at Yaroslavl reported 37 passengers and 8 crew were on board, that the 43 killed included 26 recovered from the river, and that 2 survivors have been taken to hospital.

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Re: 43 killed, 2 survive as Russian charter flight crashes

Lokomotiv Yaroslavl officials have confirmed that the majority of the club's roster have been killed in the crash. Those on board included players from Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Latvia, Germany, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Canada and Sweden.
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Re: 43 killed, 2 survive as Russian charter flight crashes

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Old 07.09.2011, 21:09
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Re: 43 killed, 2 survive as Russian charter flight crashes

Man, that sucks, poor families. Reminded me of the rugby team from Uruguay and flight 571 (the guys who got stuck in the Andes for over 2 months).
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Re: 43 killed, 2 survive as Russian charter flight crashes

They're stating that the Yak 42 never gained adequate height and struck an antenna, not sure if they meant the ILS or nav aids.

The "experts" at Pprune haven't stated anything plausible yet. Very sad.

The Guardian reports as follows:
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Re: 43 killed, 2 survive as Russian charter flight crashes

Out comes the Annex 13...

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Man, that sucks, poor families. Reminded me of the rugby team from Uruguay and flight 571 (the guys who got stuck in the Andes for over 2 months).
Reminds me of the Manchester United Basel crash back in 58

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/d...00/2535961.stm
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Reminds me of the Manchester United Basel crash back in 58

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/d...00/2535961.stm
I think your confusing/mistaking Basel for Munich.
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Old 07.09.2011, 23:15
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Re: 43 killed, 2 survive as Russian charter flight crashes

Am hearing that the tower observed slow acceleration of a/c and rotation virtually at end of runway. Two possibilities that thus immediately come to mind are engine problem and subsequent failure to abort before V1, and major configuration error.

Either way, hitting antennae does not sound like root cause; a quick check of the plates for the airport reinforces this opinion...
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Yes and No. The Manchester United crash was in Munich. The Basel crash described here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/brizzle...ed/2078378692/
involved a Vickers Vanguard of Invicta International Airlines

For reasons I cannot remember, the media compared the Invicta crash to the one in Munich
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They're stating that the Yak 42 never gained adequate height and struck an antenna, not sure if they meant the ILS or nav aids.

The "experts" at Pprune haven't stated anything plausible yet. Very sad.

The Guardian reports as follows:
The investigators of course will try to find out WHY the Yak-42 hit that airport antenna.

Really sad !
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Yes and No. The Manchester United crash was in Munich. The Basel crash described here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/brizzle...ed/2078378692/
involved a Vickers Vanguard of Invicta International Airlines

For reasons I cannot remember, the media compared the Invicta crash to the one in Munich

That'll be a rather roundabout way of you saying "Oops, I got it wrong", will it, Wolli?
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Re: 43 killed, 2 survive as Russian charter flight crashes

The accident investigators task is to establish the causes of the accident and their objective is prevention.

The fact that it collided with an antenna may or may not be a causal factor.

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Re: 43 killed, 2 survive as Russian charter flight crashes

Hope the Russians sort their shit out before the 2018 World Cup. Domesetic flights in Russia are somewhat of a hazard as they are at the moment.
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Old 08.09.2011, 08:55
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Hope the Russians sort their shit out before the 2018 World Cup. Domesetic flights in Russia are somewhat of a hazard as they are at the moment.
Not correct. Their domestic accident history has always been pretty appalling since they started flying, period. If you look back at the overviews of all of their types, it started going wrong way back when with the Li-2, then IL-14s plowing their trade. The IL-18 had somewhat of a more successful career, but the jet age wasn't kind with Tu-134 and Tu-154 fatalities amongst the highest for turbojet types, not just in the former Soviet Union, but with previous East Bloc countries and Iran. Other types such as the IL-62 were never commercial successes, but homegrown designs were the only types available for state owned and operated Aeroflot.

This rather atypical story from October 13, 1977:

CCCP-87948 Yak-40 departed Rostov-na-Donu for a domestic flight to Nikolayev, however the cargo hatch had not been securely closed prior to departure. Shortly after take off the hatch opened and seats 2A, 2B, 3A and 3B which were affixed to the cargo hatch complete with passengers, dropped out of the airplane hanging upside down directly into the airstream. A mother and her small boy in seats 3A & 3B slipped out of their seatbelts and fell to their deaths. The man in seat 2A was also having a bad hair day as he had to cling to his seat for dear life all the way through the emergency landing. When all was said and done, Mr. 2A was awarded compensation of only 100 roubles to cover the cost of new clothing and a public expense fund paid for the burial of the deceased mother and child.

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Re: 43 killed, 2 survive as Russian charter flight crashes

It seems they are blaming on poor fuel as the cause of the accident.

According to Rianovosti "The aircraft failed to gain the required engine takeoff speed and fell from a low height on a Volga riverbank. Refueling the plane with low-quality fuel is seen as a priority reason for the engine malfunction"

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20110908/166519463.html
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CCCP-87948 Yak-40 departed Rostov-na-Donu for a domestic flight to Nikolayev, however the cargo hatch had not been securely closed prior to departure. Shortly after take off the hatch opened and seats 2A, 2B, 3A and 3B which were affixed to the cargo hatch complete with passengers,
What cargo hatch has seats attached to it O_o ?
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Re: 43 killed, 2 survive as Russian charter flight crashes

Just quoting from the accident report. The Yak-40K has a port side side door (from pax windows 2 and 3) which presumably lowers down for direct access when operating in a combi mix. If that whole side door wasn't secure then the whole rows adjacent would be pulled with it. Never having loaded a YaK-40, I'm not certain of the procedure of affixing the seats to either the floor or rails or even maybe a slide in pallet type affair.

Here's your Cyrillic homework for the day:

http://www.airdisaster.ru/database.php?id=847

If you have a way of translating, here's a neat way of ruining your day:

http://www.airdisaster.ru/database.php?y=all
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This rather atypical story from October 13, 1977:
Where did you get this from? It's not in the list of notable accidents involving Yak-40s and the only relevant page google turns up is this one.

Besides, dodgy cargo doors aren't just a Russion phenomenon.


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Nope, just a dodgy safety record.
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