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now this is serious...( Kids sent to foster homes )

a humble request to the mods : please do not change the title

now this is SERIOUS and RIDICULOUS at the same time. ...children sent to a foster home by Norway authorities

http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/in...-lateststories

i really feel shocked and horifying

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Old 17.01.2012, 11:00
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a humble request to the mods : please do not change the title and move this thread

now this is SERIOUS and RIDICULOUS at the same time. ...children sent to a foster home by Norway authorities

http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/in...-lateststories

i really feel shocked and horifying

If that is the only reason, then I find it shocking too.

BTW: What I don't understand is why you put it into Living in Switzerland/Daily Life and insist it should not be moved?
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Re: now this is serious...

Do you have any other links to this? Sounds rather ridiculous and one sided so far...
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Old 17.01.2012, 11:00
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Re: now this is serious...

I find myself in the very strange position of defending a possible future mod action

this is not related to living in Switzerland ( or even Sweden ) "Living in Switzerland > Daily life"

and the title says nothing regarding the content.

ok.. I think I'll go slap myself around a little now..



( altho I do agree with you it's stupid and a bit horrifying )
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Old 17.01.2012, 11:03
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Re: now this is serious...

I agree with all the members above. It doesn't belong into daily life but in international affairs.

I find it horrifying too. I wish to know the whole story though...
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Old 17.01.2012, 11:04
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I find myself in the very strange position of defending a possible future mod action

this is not related to living in Switzerland ( or even Sweden ) "Living in Switzerland > Daily life"

and the title says nothing regarding the content.

ok.. I think I'll go slap myself around a little now..



( altho I do agree with you it's stupid and a bit horrifying )
Exactly what I was thinking. This is nothing to do with Daily life in Switzerland. And I'm also a bit confused why the OP is insistent that the thread not be moved.


Anyway, it's a horrible story. Let's hope the Norwegian authorities come back to their senses and reunite this family.
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Old 17.01.2012, 11:06
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Re: now this is serious...

2 sides to every story

so the children where in the same bed as the parents, does this mean that the whole family where in a 1 room bedsit? not exactly the best conditions for 2 adults and 2 children
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Re: now this is serious...( Kids sent to foster homes )

please move to the relevant section...otherwise the news is getting sidelined
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Do you have any other links to this? Sounds rather ridiculous and one sided so far...
I can't find any links to this in legitimate news sources ( i.e. The Sun, or The Daily Mail ) but it's all over Norwegian and Indian News links.
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Re: now this is serious...

that does not at all mean this authorizes you to take the kids away...if it is ok for the family it is perfectly fine...
it is about traditions...habits...customs...one might not be comfortable with the kids in the other room...it is just a personal choice

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so the children where in the same bed as the parents, does this mean that the whole family where in a 1 room bedsit? not exactly the best conditions for 2 adults and 2 children
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Re: now this is serious...( Kids sent to foster homes )

I absolutely don't believe this is the full story and the real reason the children were taken away. Searched Norwegian media and the child protective services have not commented once what the reasons for taking away the children were.

And the issue at the moment does not seem to be about giving the children back, but if they should be sent back to India to live with relatives or rather be placed with Norwegian foster parents - surely if the reasons were so ridiculous, any court would give the children back to the parents immediately.
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that does not at all mean this authorizes you to take the kids away...if it is ok for the family it is perfectly fine...
it is about traditions...habits...customs...one might not be comfortable with the kids in the other room...it is just a personal choice
Of course...if that's what the actual reasons were. I note a distinct lack of information on this coming from a source other than the parents.
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I can't find any links to this in legitimate news sources ( i.e. The Sun, or The Daily Mail ) but it's all over Norwegian and Indian News links.

NDTV is one of the most reliable and best news channel in India
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Old 17.01.2012, 11:21
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that does not at all mean this authorizes you to take the kids away...if it is ok for the family it is perfectly fine...
it is about traditions...habits...customs...one might not be comfortable with the kids in the other room...it is just a personal choice

of course it isn't ok if its ok for the family! what a silly statement!!

Its perfectly fine in some countries to perform female circumcision, that doesn't make in right! and would result in prison in most other countries in the world. (for example)

Its perfectly fine in some places to send 5 year olds out to work in sweat shops for 20 hours a day for pennies, again, try that here, see what happens to you.
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so like Fox news, or the daily mail then?
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Re: now this is serious...( Kids sent to foster homes )

according to Norwegian media:

-children were placed, in emergency, with foster parents.
- this decision was confirmed by the court.
- child protective services have refused to comment what the reasons were.
- children's uncle came to Norway to take the children to India, but this was refused by Norwegian authorities, as according to the authorities, the request has to go through proper channels and they cannot simply send the kids to India with the uncle. This has caused all the uproar and issue, as according to the parents' lawyer, they are concerned that the children will lose their culture and language.

I can't find any reliable sources stating what the reasons for taking away the children were.
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of course it isn't ok if its ok for the family! what a silly statement!!

Its perfectly fine in some countries to perform female circumcision, that doesn't make in right! and would result in prison in most other countries in the world. (for example)

Its perfectly fine in some places to send 5 year olds out to work in sweat shops for 20 hours a day for pennies, again, try that here, see what happens to you.
does that sound equal to you...female circumcision...child labour and what happened here
please don't mind but now youuu sound ridiculous to me
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does that sound equal to you...female circumcision...child labour and what happened here
please don't mind but now youuu sound ridiculous to me

the only people who really know what happened are the parents, and the authorities, legally the authorities are not allowed to say what happened, so all you have is what the parents are saying, so hardly an unbiased view now is it.

the authorities don't take children away from there family without a very good reason, and without many many visits and chances to change (unless the kids are in imminent danger), so this really is a non story, sorry
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the only people who really know what happened are the parents, and the authorities, legally the authorities are not allowed to say what happened, so all you have is what the parents are saying, so hardly an unbiased view now is it.

the authorities don't take children away from there family without a very good reason, and without many many visits and chances to change (unless the kids are in imminent danger), so this really is a non story, sorry

the amount of disturbance this news has caused in my mind... i definitely do not want to argue with you
excuse me please
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the amount of disturbance this news has caused in my mind... i definitely do not want to argue with you
excuse me please

really, think about it, do you really think its only about sleeping in the same bed and feeding by hand, do you really think the norwegian authorities would risk an international incident for something so trivial??

There is more to this story then the parents are telling, if you think otherwise then you are very naive
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