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...read the book the policeman in charge of the investigation wrote...the book "the truth of the lie" I'll sum it up for you. the parents are guilty as hell.
Maddy case must be reopened: Cop who led the botched Portuguese hunt calls on authorities to act
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Goncarlo Amaral is being sued by the McCanns but even so sided with the couple after Portuguese authorities refused to reopen the case.
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Old 03.05.2012, 13:27
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The Portuguese police have said they will not reopen the investigation unless there is credible evidence, which the British police believe there is. They are talking with the Portuguese.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17930706
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but just in case you don't want to read the book "the truth of the lie" I'll sum it up for you. the parents are guilty as hell.
I haven't read the book (do I really need to??) but having read enough about it in the general press my gut tells me that they couldn't have killed their own daughter, disposed of the corpse in a foreign country, kept on a mask of perfect innocence for 5 years whilst outfoxing some of the most experienced police and private detectives in the world.

And by continuing to lobby and push for further investigations, aren't they doing the exact opposite of what guilty parents would do? You might call it diversionary but the police forces in both countries are dying to close the book on this, and yet the McCanns refuse to let it rest. Are they doing that so they look innocent, and why should they care if the case is closed??

Again, it just doesn't add up unless they are complete and utter psychopaths.
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Old 03.05.2012, 13:31
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Goncalo Amaral, the policeman in question, has made a lot of money out of his book, which he wrote after he was thrown off the case. He has no evidence to back up what he claims.
I have no interest in bad repping you, I groaned you because I couldn't believe your attitude, the McCanns made the worst mistake of their lives, one I am sure they will never forgive themselves for.
This thread is to remember Madeleine and other missing children. They all need to be found, the McCanns are simply trying to find their daughter.

Oh come off it!! he gave the book away for free after the mcanns got an injunction over it, so how did he make money.

Look, you have your opinion and its not going to change no matter what, if you want the other side of the story read the book, the policeman has a lot less to gain then the mcanns have to lose, really, the books an eye opener, I've heard and read the parents side of the story, and I've heard and read the police side of the story, and the police side make a whole lot more sense then the parents

The english press made out the policeman was some sort of idiot, which helped the mcanns no end - funny they hired a press officer eh?, he wasn't allowed to say anything at the time (by law) so the only way to get his side of the story was to write a book when he left the police force, which the mcanns promptly (and at great cost to the search for maddie fund) got banned - a ban that was overturned.

so please, read the book with an open mind, then comment
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I haven't read the book (do I really need to??) but having read enough about it in the general press

Like these headlines?

"The bungling cop who led the botched Madeleine McCann investigation"

Remember they hired a press manager to put headlines like this out, the policeman had no such luxury as he wasn't allowed to comment.

You know this is pointless, If you defenders read the book, or where even willing to read the book then we could debate the issues, but hey, they are doctors, they must be ok, I mean no doctor has even done anything stupid or bad, have they????
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I am not here to debate issues or argue with you.
Five years ago Madeleine went missing. She needs to be found. I for one will be thinking of her.
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my personal hunch is that this case is much like the Benet-Ramsey case in the States or the Van der Sloot case in Aruba - the authorities likely have an understanding as to what happened, but lack the necessary evidence to proceed formally. none of which changes that fact that parents should always be doing more to protect their young children.
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Old 03.05.2012, 13:55
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The english press made out the policeman was some sort of idiot, which helped the mcanns no end
Well it is interesting that the cop who wrote the book (of which only ~200k copies where sold in Portugal alone, along with copies in other countries and TV shows all around), was indicted for another similar case where they apparently tortured people and apparently forcing a false statement.

Just reading the overview at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappe...deleine_McCann
will give one that impression already that it one big pile of stink.
Too many 'they said, we said' and other constructs which do not match up at all.

What I do not get is why an abductor would only take one girl along when two younger siblings, which tend to be more docile and easier to sell (unless one goes the childporn route) are there too in arms reach, three is better than one when one is selling kids on and taking these risks already, one would think.

This is one of those many cases where the truth will likely never be known.

Only conclusion I can say: it sucks to be the parents, they will take really good care and watch over the other two kids they still have. (if Maddy got dropped out of the window and they covered it up, or if she was really abducted)
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They should have been charged with child neglect.
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Like these headlines?

"The bungling cop who led the botched Madeleine McCann investigation"

Remember they hired a press manager to put headlines like this out, the policeman had no such luxury as he wasn't allowed to comment.

You know this is pointless, If you defenders read the book, or where even willing to read the book then we could debate the issues, but hey, they are doctors, they must be ok, I mean no doctor has even done anything stupid or bad, have they????
Again, there are people much more qualified than me (private detectives, amateur detectives, criminologists) who have pored over the evidence and to date nothing of any substance has come out. As for hiring press officers, quashing inflammatory books, their argument is that this all distracts from the efforts to find their daughter.

I would agree with you that they are not the most sympathetic looking individuals, often coming across as arrogant and aloof and their initial folly of leaving the kids unattended doesn't help them gain public support. However there is a world of difference between that and the cold blooded murderers you believe them to be.

Anyway, this thread is about the remembrance of Maddie and other lost children.. I for one will hug my little one a little tighter today
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Again, there are people much more qualified than me (private detectives, amateur detectives, criminologists) who have pored over the evidence and to date nothing of any substance has come out. As for hiring press officers, quashing inflammatory books, their argument is that this all distracts from the efforts to find their daughter.

I would agree with you that they are not the most sympathetic looking individuals, often coming across as arrogant and aloof and their initial folly of leaving the kids unattended doesn't help them gain public support. However there is a world of difference between that and the cold blooded murderers you believe them to be.

Anyway, this thread is about the remembrance of Maddie and other lost children.. I for one will hug my little one a little tighter today
where did I say they where cold blooded murderers?? something happened to the child, something they where ultimately responsible for and instead of coming clean , and risking losing there jobs as a GP and heart surgeon they made up a laughable story, milked the public for there sympathy and cash and are still wasting police time and money
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Being myself a victim of abduction as a child, I still thank the sky that I was found and not sold.

Now as a mother, I pray everyday that won't happen to my kids.
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my personal hunch is that this case is much like the Benet-Ramsey case in the States or the Van der Sloot case in Aruba - the authorities likely have an understanding as to what happened, but lack the necessary evidence to proceed formally. none of which changes that fact that parents should always be doing more to protect their young children.

exactly, what the police and governments (uk and portugal) are not saying is just as important as what they are saying
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Surely there must be enough taped interviews of the McCanns to detect
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where did I say they where cold blooded murderers?? something happened to the child, something they where ultimately responsible for and instead of coming clean , and risking losing there jobs as a GP and heart surgeon they made up a laughable story, milked the public for there sympathy and cash and are still wasting police time and money
But how do you know this?
The worst thing they are guilty of is being naive and leaving their children alone. You are suggesting they harmed Madeleine. Where is the evidence?
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Anyway, this thread is about the remembrance of Maddie and other lost children.. I for one will hug my little one a little tighter today
Well said Castro, now please can we stop this witch hunt.
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Old 03.05.2012, 14:34
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But how do you know this?
The worst thing they are guilty of is being naive and leaving their children alone. You are suggesting they harmed Madeleine. Where is the evidence?
The policeman in charge suggested it, well more then that he outright says it, and if he had the hard evidence those two would be rotting in prison.
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Well said Castro, now please can we stop this witch hunt.
Its a witch hunt because people don't believe the same thing as you???
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Its a witch hunt because people don't believe the same thing as you???
No, you can believe what you like, but you talk as if they are definitely guilty of harming their child. There is no evidence, that is why their 'arguido' status was dropped.
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There is no concrete evidence that the mother and father did anything to harm their child, but they are guilty of neglect, they left a small child alone un-attended, they should serve some jail time for that fact alone.
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