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19.08.2012, 23:02
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| | | Is history about to repeat itself? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/f...-the-euro.html
What does this snake know?
Is he trying to destroy the Euro to clean up like his predecessor did to the UK?
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19.08.2012, 23:24
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| | | Re: Is history about to repeat itself? http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/15/bo...pagewanted=all
If you have not read this book yet, you should.
History is very clearly in the process of repeating itself. The book is scary accurate! Its not Michael Lewis, but very readable.
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20.08.2012, 00:28
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The article is great though thank you
Fiat currency purely doesn't work, printing your way out of a crisis is never a solution either, the only ones to benefit are the unknown beneficiaries of the central banks…
The central banks owners now own the world, what they do with it is yet to be seen, however if you relate the world and everything in it to the way a bank does business it doesn't bode well for the assets (us)…
When you mention the NWO people switch off, ram their head in the sand or ridicule you, quite understandable for those that do not want to see any disturbance to the status quo, but it's coming that's for sure, the Euro collapse followed shortly by the USD will start it…
Maybe it will take a WWIII to bring it in as the remaining populace after it will tire of anything else apart from peace at all costs…
We are living in unprecedented times, countries going bankrupt to individuals, who would have thought it?
Conquer by debt with money you never had to lend….
Brilliant concept, horrifying consequences !
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20.08.2012, 00:34
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| | | Re: Is history about to repeat itself?
Guessing you saw this already? | Quote: | |  | | | The article is great though thank you 
Fiat currency purely doesn't work, printing your way out of a crisis is never a solution either, the only ones to benefit are the unknown beneficiaries of the central banks…
The central bankers owners now own the world, what they do with it is yet to be seen, however if you relate the world and everything in it to the way a bank does business it doesn't bode well for the assets (us)…
When you mention the NWO people switch off, ram their head in the sand or ridicule you, quite understandable for those that do not want to see any disturbance to the status quo, but it's coming that's for sure, the Euro collapse followed shortly by the USD will start it…
Maybe it will take a WWIII to bring it in as the remaining populace after it will tire of anything else apart from peace at all costs…
We are living in unprecedented times, countries going bankrupt to individuals, who would have thought it?
Conqueror by debt with money you never had to lend….
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20.08.2012, 06:28
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| | | Re: Is history about to repeat itself?
I am reading a good book "Treasure Islands" which explains how Keynes' theories are correct, how the USA kept the UK just short of bankruptcy during the war, and brought about the destruction of the British empire. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Treasure-Isl...5439748&sr=1-1
Keynes was a great believer of capital controls, and points out that in the early seventies most of the world removed controls on capital, and since then we have had big recurring problems, with almost zero growth. The one country that has growth, also has control on its capital, and that is China.
The author claims it is the offshore funds and the avoidance of taxation which have destroyed the system. Africa would be rich and not require aid if they could achieve a realistic taxation. Instead by internal company sales the profits end up in offshore countries like Switzerland and the Cayman Islands where the taxes are lowest.
The author also claims that 95% of capital movement in the world does not result in new investments, it is simply speculative movement of asset ownership, with new wealth moved to countries with low taxation.
Basically: the rich have stolen our assets and are not giving them back.
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20.08.2012, 07:35
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| | | Re: Is history about to repeat itself? | Quote: | |  | | | Africa would be rich and not require aid if they could achieve a realistic taxation. Instead by internal company sales the profits end up in offshore countries like Switzerland and the Cayman Islands where the taxes are lowest. | | | | | All good methodical economics, but since when have we had beaches in Switzerland to make us "offshore"?
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20.08.2012, 07:55
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| | | Re: Is history about to repeat itself? | Quote: | |  | | | All good methodical economics, but since when have we had beaches in Switzerland to make us "offshore"? | | | | | Its off shore for Britain
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20.08.2012, 08:09
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| | | Re: Is history about to repeat itself? | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | a) 130 million? You've got to be kidding ... That might move the Zimbabwe dollar; in the Euro market, that's like a dog pissing against the wind.
b) Why would you think he knows anything? Half the world is shorting the Euro right now...
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20.08.2012, 09:10
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| | | Re: Is history about to repeat itself? | Quote: | |  | | | a) 130 million? You've got to be kidding ... That might move the Zimbabwe dollar; in the Euro market, that's like a dog pissing against the wind.
b) Why would you think he knows anything? Half the world is shorting the Euro right now... | | | | | Agree - the SNB have been spending over a billion per day supporting the euro (against the CHF); 100+M is peanuts
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20.08.2012, 09:33
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| | | Re: Is history about to repeat itself? | Quote: | |  | | | a) 130 million? You've got to be kidding ... That might move the Zimbabwe dollar; in the Euro market, that's like a dog pissing against the wind.
b) Why would you think he knows anything? Half the world is shorting the Euro right now... | | | | | Your right there, $130 mil is a drop in the ocean compared to his families wealth, estimated at over £100 trillion and that's on the conservative side…
What is worth noting is why now?
Like you said half the world is shorting the € why would he show himself now in the media?
He owns the media, it's a piddly sum hardly worth mentioning…
This family have not become the wealthiest in the world by helping old ladies across roads, the are ruthless, mean and their history is soaked in blood…
There may be trouble ahead !
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20.08.2012, 10:07
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20.08.2012, 10:15
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| | | Re: Is history about to repeat itself?
The Rothschilds are wealthy, to be sure, but " over a hundred trillion" and " wealthiest in the world"?
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20.08.2012, 10:35
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Keynes stole half his ideas from Hjalmar Schacht. I dont think Schacht would have agreed with what the book is saying.
Sounds like a bitter conspiracy book to me.
I work quite a bit in Africa. In my opinion the governments there are not balanced. They are based on one person or a couple of people with central power.
Tax revenues would have gone to 10 or 20 peoples piggy banks.
These theories are all shit.
Look at Bernanke. He has been spouting Keynsian ideas in Japan since 1995!!!!!!!!!!! They have been doing quantitative easing since 1998.... Bernanke has ALWAYS failed.
These Keynsians are only right when governments have no debt. | Quote: | |  | | | I am reading a good book "Treasure Islands" which explains how Keynes' theories are correct, how the USA kept the UK just short of bankruptcy during the war, and brought about the destruction of the British empire. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Treasure-Isl...5439748&sr=1-1
Keynes was a great believer of capital controls, and points out that in the early seventies most of the world removed controls on capital, and since then we have had big recurring problems, with almost zero growth. The one country that has growth, also has control on its capital, and that is China.
The author claims it is the offshore funds and the avoidance of taxation which have destroyed the system. Africa would be rich and not require aid if they could achieve a realistic taxation. Instead by internal company sales the profits end up in offshore countries like Switzerland and the Cayman Islands where the taxes are lowest.
The author also claims that 95% of capital movement in the world does not result in new investments, it is simply speculative movement of asset ownership, with new wealth moved to countries with low taxation.
Basically: the rich have stolen our assets and are not giving them back. | | | | | | 
20.08.2012, 10:41
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| | | Re: Is history about to repeat itself?
Its a common fact amongst the HNW community that Ken Dart (and his family) are the wealthiest in the world.
They invented something called Styrofoam.
Rothschilds have the printing press, but they dont own more of the US Federal Reserve than JP Morgan. So if JP Morgan cant print $5Bn to save their bad CDS bets then why would the Rothschilds be able to print 100Tr?
FYI, since 1914 there has only been $60tr of USD's ever created, and with so many people paying back loans in the US that has dropped by about $6Tr over the last 4 years.
The housing stock of the USA is $34Tr.....
My guess is that the Rothschilds have a yard or two, but thats it. | Quote: | |  | | | Your right there, $130 mil is a drop in the ocean compared to his families wealth, estimated at over £100 trillion and that's on the conservative side…
What is worth noting is why now?
Like you said half the world is shorting the € why would he show himself now in the media?
He owns the media, it's a piddly sum hardly worth mentioning…
This family have not become the wealthiest in the world by helping old ladies across roads, the are ruthless, mean and their history is soaked in blood…
There may be trouble ahead ! | | | | |
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20.08.2012, 10:42
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| | | Re: Is history about to repeat itself? | Quote: | |  | | | Your right there, $130 mil is a drop in the ocean compared to his families wealth, estimated at over £100 trillion and that's on the conservative side… | | | | | I think you mean Billion, not trillion... and that might not be so conservative either. The big money is in technology these days, and financial services. the old rich families are too old now, and their money is split among hundreds of great grandchildren....
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20.08.2012, 10:49
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Zuger, your inbox is full.
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20.08.2012, 10:59
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Sorry, try now | Quote: | |  | | | Zuger, your inbox is full. | | | | | | 
20.08.2012, 11:16
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| | | Re: Is history about to repeat itself? | Quote: | |  | | | I think you mean Billion, not trillion... and that might not be so conservative either. The big money is in technology these days, and financial services. the old rich families are too old now, and their money is split among hundreds of great grandchildren.... | | | | | Here is $500 trillion written in 2008, it was thought then than this amount could be vastly under estimated, they wont allow an audit and a great portion of their wealth is in gold, that doesn't take into account that they are also believed to be majority shareholders in ALL of the world's central banks…(but we will never know that because they will not disclose). http://jubilee2012.50webs.com/the_ho...rothschild.htm
They are very secret about all of their affairs so no one can estimate correctly, I doubt styrofoam or any techies guys can get anywhere near this type of wealth even if this is vastly exaggerated...
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20.08.2012, 11:20
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The Rothschilds have been lending to Kings and nations for over 200 years, they don't dilute their wealth, it all gets handed to the oldest boy heir who favours his siblings…
There is a wealth of info about them in the public domain, except their wealth, read it for yourselves, it is interesting.
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20.08.2012, 11:23
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| | | Re: Is history about to repeat itself? | Quote: | |  | | | Your right there, $130 mil is a drop in the ocean compared to his families wealth, estimated at over £100 trillion and that's on the conservative side…
What is worth noting is why now?
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There may be trouble ahead ! | | | | | Or maybe he is trying to drive the market in the direction he wants?
"Names" like his/him can affect the markets, given that they are all based on the whims of bankers and their ilk rather than any cold hard facts.
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