Holy cow !!!
After reading a little about this from the US I searched around and found this:

Totally amazing what the government employees are getting away with... acting on a hunch or gut feeling. Read some of the different cases in the different departments. Wow!

https://virtualparalegal.com/current-asset-forfeitures/

and where does it mention hunch or gut feeling ..?

Why in the world is this spam?

Do you feel personally attacked with my message above st2lemans? The internet makes it possible... get smart!

dino, there are numerous articles and even TV shows that show examples of this new fad for creating profit for the government. Without reading between the lines... you can be relieved of your own property or cash if the officers involved (of many different branches) feel you may be using the money in your wallet to buy drugs or support terrorism. Not to mention using your car to transport drugs... or storing illegal aliens in the basement of your home...

Basically, you do not have to be proven guilty to be relieved of your goods, property or money.

I think this is a major problem in the states. Try a google search and you will be surprised.

It's a link to some money-making site, not an article or other useful info.

Tom

Thank you Tom... that is a much more appropriate reply than crying spam!

Again, please google the term Asset Forfeiture. There is a scam going on in the states of recent, the link just happened to be one of the sites I found with cases.

A friend of mine was approached for witness questioning and was relieved of 17,000 dollars when he opened his wallet to get his drivers license out for ID. The police helped themselves to the money claiming "it could be used to buy drugs". My friend did not have any drugs on him, nor did he commit any crimes. Was just questioned as a witness to an accident.

My buddy had taken the money from his bank account to buy a used car the next day. There were no drugs involved... just criminal police that confiscated money that was not involved in a crime in the slightest way.

He has not seen the money since. The police claim it is being detained till further notice. This is one example of the reasons that I left the states and came back "home".

OK, I could have explained this up front... or given more details with the link. I thought, with the European news and the internet, that asset Forfeiture was commonly known. Sorry.
JC

PS: I was not in trouble in the US. I left on my own and was not deported.

never heard of asset forfeiture. Has your friend retained a lawyer? Sounds like a fishy story...hard to believe it could really be the whole story. What does approached for witness questioning mean, and this is done by a police officer and not a lawyer?

Thanks for your concern, good questions too.

My friend witnessed an automobile accident. When he was asked to identify himself he went for his drivers license. The police questioned him about what he saw then asked about the money... the police still had his drivers license in their possession. He was going to buy a used car the next day, but the cops didn't buy that and literally took the money.

Asset forfeiture is a trick the different agencies are using to gain revenue for their own support and use. Houses have been confiscated and sold for the money, cars confiscated and used as undercover police cars, money, material items, you name it. When I found out about this, then surfed the internet for other details... totally amazing. YouTube has a few fact revealing clips.

I am really surprised that it is not common knowledge here. Well, maybe this will help
JC

Thanks for the explanation - now I understand his situation... I seems like it should be totally illegal to retain his cash without probable cause, or maybe I have watched too many tv court shows...

Do you mind saying where in the US this has happened - I lived most recently in Upstate NY and have family in Texas, CA and FL and have never heard of this.

In the UK, cash over £1000 can be seized if there are reasonable grounds for suspecting that the cash is intended for use in unlawful conduct or it is recoverable property (i.e. proceeds of crime).

Seized cash may not be detained for more than 48 hours except by order of a magistrate.

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/h_to_k/i...e/#Toc39629394

This happened in the state of Tennessee, near Memphis.

Yes Mirfield, I noticed this too. Pretty much same in the US. Till recently, when the diverse agencies are seeing a form of revenue in their overpowering means and justifications.

Perhaps I am being hard on the topic, thanks to how close it hit with my friend. However, as I read into it and the numbers the agencies are collecting WITHOUT cause... it is blowing my mind at what they are getting away with.
JC

I had a client who had all of his money "confiscated" by the US authorities because the name on his operating company had one word in it that matched that of another terrorist linked company.

The money was being wired from Geneva to Luxembourg. The banks were sending US$'s so they had to go through a correspondence bank in NYC.

JP Morgan seized the assets of the 86 year old client and accused him of supporting terrorism. He is a well know Greek ship owner who was using the money to make a payment system for loans on his fleet. A project that I had been working on with him for several months.

The US Govt keeps the money at the treasury, without ANY trial. They have been trying to get it back for the last 3 years now. But the US investigation is still pending.

Its like Nazi Germany. Imagine making a bread and butter transfer, only to have the US Govt take it. Thats the world we live in.

The US World Police are very scary. They have powers that you cant even imagine.

Thank you Zuger for your confirmation!

Not only do the US supremacy have powers that we can not imagine, they abuse them in any form that works to their advantage.

Thank you Captain... that is a much more informative post than your first post with just a link to an obscure website with even more obscure links to some governmental PDFs.

Of you want us to notice a problem or topic it is best to briefly (other wise tl;dr;) explain to us what the problem is, how it affect people, and then link to evidences further reading etc. Do not let us to the whole googeling and searching stuff. Beacuse tb;dg; (Too bored; didn't google.)

In Germany money in your possession may be seized when it is in so called "Dealer's usual denominations / dealerübliche Stückelung" (lots of small bills). Unfortunately this may be the same as the so called "House wives mixture / Hausfrauenmischung" that comes out of German ATMs.


PS: Here is a video showing how US cops use made up pretenses to trick drivers into otherwise illegal searches


PPS: In Switzerland, Cops my use a Breathalyzer w/o probable cause.

Well, I think they just want to extort tax revenues globally. They fuq with Swiss bank transfers in the hopes they get info I think. There is talk that someone like Abu Dhabi or Qatar will create its own USD clearing system so no one has to go through NYC, but again, the US would then claim the UAE or Qatar as a Terrorist State. We have discussed this many times with bankers in the gulf, who have enough cash to create their own clearing system.

This is true, and nothing wrong with it (in my opinion). Reason is;
1. the Swiss police are not taking anything that is mine (except a little time) and
2. if I am not over the limit, there is nothing to hide

World wide except for the US, as with citizenship taxation, the rules are the same... probable cause leads to confiscation. My beef, is that the US is abusing this (given, some states and agencies are officially not doing this... on the surface).

This is the sad reality of a police state, meanwhile it's citizens believe they live in the land of freedom. History seems to be repeating the 1930's.