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Re: Indian rape case.

The sudden publicity is certainly a good thing. Sad part is that stuff like this has happened for a long time, with very little interest from public. I saw some list of similar crimes in past, and quite a few known attackers didn't even see jail, although they murdered the girl/woman at the end (even at police station!). Everybody cries for death penalty for this attack, but what about thousands of those before? It's just a strange "popularity" wave.
Another thing - India is huge. HUGE. 1.1 billion people and rapidly growing. Women are just gaining equality in large cities, in rural areas it's still middle ages, especially in lower castes (yes, been there for a while, seen that). With such amount of people, at the end there will be many crimes including murders, rapes, kidnappings etc. But per capita I don't see any drama.
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Re: Indian rape case.

This is what I hate about religion:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-23388205

But with clerics who make comments like "They spread vulgarity and spoil men's fasting in Ramadan" it's no wonder women are seen as nobodies and only worth raping. Would someone please explain to me how being covered from head to toe in clothing spreads vulgarity. You can't see anything for Allah's sake! And why does having a man with you make it all right? This isn't religion, it's simply about being able to boss women around.

Still, at least they've managed to jail some of them:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-23390078
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This is what I hate about religion:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-23388205
It only gets better: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23381448

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Yes, Tom, I posted that BBC report as a separate thread. Can't say much because it makes too incoherant for words.
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Re: Indian rape case.

The four men are guilty and will be sentenced tomorrow, http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-24028767
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Re: Indian rape case.

All four sentenced to death, while the law was amended to allow the death penalty in such cases:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-24078339
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Re: Indian rape case.

Judge Yogesh Khanna said the case fell in the "rarest of rare category", rejecting pleas for a lighter sentence.

In other words, they'll be put to death but any other rapists won't. Then death sentence option will quietly be forgotten. Men putting men first again.
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Re: Indian rape case.

what a sad and horrific case. With all the minor things that we complain about living here in the West (esp. as women), we really need to be grateful sometimes for what we take for granted as it certainly isn't that way in much of the world.
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Judge Yogesh Khanna said the case fell in the "rarest of rare category", rejecting pleas for a lighter sentence.

In other words, they'll be put to death but any other rapists won't. Then death sentence option will quietly be forgotten. Men putting men first again.
Well many countries consider death sentence being uncivilized. So no matter how the girl died, in most countries in this world they would not have been sentenced to death and still you are not satisfied? What exactly are you asking for?
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In other words, they'll be put to death but any other rapists won't. Then death sentence option will quietly be forgotten. Men putting men first again.
I didn't realize that the death penalty for rape was on any civilized country's to-do list for gender equality.
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I didn't realize that the death penalty for rape was on any civilized country's to-do list for gender equality.
It should be. After all it's almost impossible for a woman to return the rape favour.
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It should be. After all it's almost impossible for a woman to return the rape favour.
And because women don't often rape men, men raping should be killed. Is this your suggestion? I've never been raped but I fear there are much worse crimes out there than this.
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And because women don't often rape men, men raping should be killed. Is this your suggestion? I've never been raped but I fear there are much worse crimes out there than this.
It wasn't just a simple rape was it? After the 6 men raped her, they inserted a metal bar, and this damaged her so much she died from internal injuries.

One man, the bus driver, hung himself in his cell. A second was only 17 and he is doing time in a correction facility, and these four will be executed.
I am happy with that result, justice is seen to be done.

Did you see the report from the UN about rape in Asia? It is endemic! UN report on Asian rape statistics
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And because women don't often rape men, men raping should be killed. Is this your suggestion? I've never been raped but I fear there are much worse crimes out there than this.
Like what? Only murder tops it in my book.
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Re: Indian rape case.

@sbrinz: Totally understand and agree that this was the worst possible case and they should be sentenced to the highest possible punishment. But what we are now (at least I am) discussing is the general aspect of if rape should be a case for death sentence
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Like what? Only murder tops it in my book.
Maybe you'll have to broaden your view then. There are many, many cruelties in the world out there that go far beyond a one time mistreatment.

So what about women that claim that a man have raped her, that send him to prison for years and later he has to live on social welfare until he (prematurely) dies? Should we sentence her to death as well?

http://www.20min.ch/ausland/news/sto...igung-17718049
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Maybe you'll have to broaden your view then. There are many, many cruelties in the world out there that go far beyond a one time mistreatment.

So what about women that claim that a man have raped her, that send him to prison for years and later he has to live on social welfare until he (prematurely) dies? Should we sentence her to death as well?

http://www.20min.ch/ausland/news/sto...igung-17718049
Yes, why not? She's ruined a life, effectively murdered him.

Sorry, but I'm a bit blood thirsty. I see no need to keep proven rapists and murderers alive for the rest of their lives while they cost honest, hard working citizens money to keep them there. I may be agnostic but I agree with the bible on this one - an eye for an eye, a death for a death. Rapists should be physically castrated, none of this chemical castration rubbish. Let them feel some of the pain their victims went through.
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@sbrinz: Totally understand and agree that this was the worst possible case and they should be sentenced to the highest possible punishment. But what we are now (at least I am) discussing is the general aspect of if rape should be a case for death sentence
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Maybe you'll have to broaden your view then. There are many, many cruelties in the world out there that go far beyond a one time mistreatment.

So what about women that claim that a man have raped her, that send him to prison for years and later he has to live on social welfare until he (prematurely) dies? Should we sentence her to death as well?

http://www.20min.ch/ausland/news/sto...igung-17718049
On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 the most serious, where would you put rape and where would you put a false rape claim?
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On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 the most serious, where would you put rape and where would you put a false rape claim?
I guess that depends on what is the result of the false rape claim. Lets take the case described. A woman claims she has been raped. The man gets sentenced 5 years which was apparently deemed adequate at that time. The man is imprisoned for 5 years because he always claims that he has not done it. After that no one would give him a job and after a year living on welfare he dies of a heart attack. Now the woman is being sent to prison for 5 and a half years because they found her guilty of lying and basically ruining that mans life.

I think overall both sentencing's (is this correct?) are fair. What do you think?
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