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Indian rape case.

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/fea...223203757.html. Feel quite sad for what this poor woman suffered and that too in the capital.
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Re: Indian rape case.

I heard on the news yesterday that Indian politicians held an immediate debate, and some wanted the death penalty for rape. However, there seems to be a record number of rapes in Dehli and it's time it was stopped.

Some further information, added later,

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-20765364

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Re: Indian rape case.

The student passed away - what a pity!

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A female student gang-raped on a bus in India's capital Delhi has died at a Singapore hospital, doctors say.

The 23-year-old had arrived in Singapore on Thursday after undergoing three operations in a Delhi hospital.

"She had suffered from severe organ failure following serious injuries to her body and brain. She was courageous in fighting for her life for so long against the odds but the trauma to her body was too severe for her to overcome,"
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Old 29.12.2012, 00:27
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Re: Indian rape case.

Since the woman has died, I suppose the attackers will be charged with murder.

Rape is disgusting, cowardly, demeaning and should be harshly punished. Good for all those women and men who are now demanding change.

May the victim rest in peace.
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Re: Indian rape case.

On Wednesday, a 17-year-old girl from a village near Patiala, in Punjab, killed herself six weeks after she was abducted, drugged and gang-raped by three men.

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http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/p.../1/239910.html
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Re: Indian rape case.

psychopaths with guns in usa and psychopaths with p**** in India
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I am appalled and ashamed, is there no value of human life? I hope people do not stop the protest and change should begin, enough talk.
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Re: Indian rape case.

Rape cases are horrible where ever it happens in the world and I know this won't go down very well in EF, but capital punishment is justified for those who are proven guilty. Imagine if that was your mother, wife, sister or daughter?

This crime is very serious culturally in Asia more than anywhere else in the world, as the woman would be stigmatised for life and some even commit suicide of the shame. Some won't even report it and suffer in silence, which also happens in the western world.
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Re: Indian rape case.

May she rest in peace...and justice comes to her soon.
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Rape cases are horrible where ever it happens in the world and I know this won't go down very well in EF, but capital punishment is justified for those who are proven guilty. Imagine if that was your mother, wife, sister or daughter?

This crime is very serious culturally in Asia more than anywhere else in the world, as the woman would be stigmatised for life and some even commit suicide of the shame. Some won't even report it and suffer in silence, which also happens in the western world.
I was lucky enough to never been raped. But I have been attacked.

I do not agree with capital punishment. Dead, the rapist doesn't pay for his actions. Dead, he gets away from a long and horrible life of punishment, humiliation and shame.

Death penalty is never a true punishment.
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I was lucky enough to never been raped. But I have been attacked.

I do not agree with capital punishment. Dead, the rapist doesn't pay for his actions. Dead, he gets away from a long and horrible life of punishment, humiliation and shame.

Death penalty is never a true punishment.
I think you should ask this question to the victim if they agree with capital punishment.

The jails in western world are almost better than Travelodge, so I doubt they will be living a horrible life with xbox in their rooms.

Without the death penalty, the guilty person can walk free after serving time.

The death penalty is there as a deterrent, and it works very well in countries where it is applied than countries where it is not applied.

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I was lucky enough to never been raped. But I have been attacked.

I do not agree with capital punishment. Dead, the rapist doesn't pay for his actions. Dead, he gets away from a long and horrible life of punishment, humiliation and shame.

Death penalty is never a true punishment.
Jail isn't first and foremost for punishment. It's to protect the public.
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I think you should ask this question to the victim if they agree with capital punishment.

The jails in western world are almost better than Travelodge, so I doubt they will be living a horrible life with xbox in their rooms.

Without the death penalty, the guilty person can walk free after serving time.

The death penalty is there as a deterrent, and it works very well in countries where it is applied than countries where it is not applied.
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Well, I didn't say to send them to jail and have a confortable life. I said to keep them alive to make them suffer. I have good ideas of punishment...
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The death penalty is there as a deterrent, and it works very well in countries where it is applied than countries where it is not applied.
Do you have references to support this claim?
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Re: Indian rape case.

I doubt the rate of this sort of crime is going 'higher' in India. Far more likely that it's going unreported... if this brings change in the way rapes are reported and handled, that's a good thing, but most cases (80-90%) the perpetrator gets away with it, lack of evidence, lack of belief in the victim, persecution of the victim, juries not wanting to believe...

Most rapes happen between people who know each other. The 'drag someone of the street' type gets lots of media coverage, because it's rare and not taboo.
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Re: Indian rape case.

I don't think the nature of the punishment matters when conviction rates are low at around 25%, and the general lack of sensitivity by the police administration in handling such cases.

Capital punishment is not a deterrent if the perpetrators know that they can get away with it.
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I doubt the rate of this sort of crime is going 'higher' in India.
I fear it will go higher, due to one of India's other hidden issues: Gendercide. Whereas gender imbalance in China has stabilised, it is widening in India. At last census, in the age range of 6 and under, there were 914 girls to every 1000 boys. This is not natural by any means.

To combat this, a society has to look at the broader issues, and in India it is extremely complicated. You have thousand-year old traditions colliding with modern world riches, employment opportunities, and expectations, combined with a huge variation in education and wealth distribution. The resulting poverty, emancipation and disposession will drive people to crimes they would not normally commit. The punishment is rarely a deterrent in violent crimes, as primitive urges take over in moments of opportunity.

You can apply an punishment you like, but the paradox of disposession will prevail.
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Re: Indian rape case.

Anything related to Rape and any kind of atrocities on human being is terrible. What happened to poor girl is really very sad and shameful for the whole country. I feel outrageous at the whole situation.

Having said that if you look at the whole region Indian subcontinent the situations have been like that for very very long. The reason these crimes have attracted attention now is because of 2 things:
1. Very open and strong media in India. Every incidence is reported and accountables are bashed.
2. Lot of awakening in India. Everyone for last 1.5 decades is talking about growing middle class and importance of education in India. Some of the products of these generations are now youths and they need answers and more accountability.

In last decade number of people have come and done largely a peaceful protest. I can count more than 5 protest where 10s of thousands have come out peacefully to make a point.

So the point I am making is these things are not new to the subcontinent or many other developing countries around world, just that now in India it is not acceptable any more. These issues becoming national issues shows that the government has to be more accountable otherwise they will be threatened by the people. I see this as huge step forward. Now next time the administration as well as culprits will feel more heat. May be some bureaucrats and politicians will be thrown out.

This is the only way system can clean itself and is first step towards becoming more mature society. Intolerance for social injustice and atrocities on poor.

Like always even here there will be lot of pain before system cleans itself. But my hear goes out to the victim and the family of the victim. May god give them more strength. R.I.P Amanat..
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Re: Indian rape case.

Something obviously needs to change regarding the treatment of women in Indian society. Apart from the rape problem, many Indian women are also forced into prostitution -- not to mention the problem with wife-burnings, etc.

I'm not sure if the dowry system is still in place in India, but I think it has somehow caused (some) Indian men to think of women as being expendable. (e.g. kill your wife so you can re-marry and get another dowry).

It's just very sad and unfortunate that it required the rape of this woman and the loss of her life for this issue to finally be brought to full attention.

May she rest in peace.
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