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Old 18.02.2013, 09:42
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I thought cats woud probaby taste more like pork.
They do a fair impression of chicken.
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Old 18.02.2013, 10:14
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They do a fair impression of chicken.
Should I..ahem..ask you how do you know?

For me, anything else than poultry, pig, lamb and beef has an odd taste..but I'm picky. My parents tricked me once into eating rabbit..I'll never forgive them.
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Old 18.02.2013, 10:56
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Re: British horsemeat scandal - Focus remains unfocussed

I love some of the quotes coming out over the weekend.

"We don't test for hedgehog either" was one of my favourites.

Lets be honest, the amount of money people are spending on "Meat" what the hell did they expect to find in their food??

Meanwhile, here in Switzerland, 300grams of high quality, locally sourced, minced beef (from a cow) can be had for <7chf - and is absolutely delicious.
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Old 18.02.2013, 11:16
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I love some of the quotes coming out over the weekend.

"We don't test for hedgehog either" was one of my favourites.

Lets be honest, the amount of money people are spending on "Meat" what the hell did they expect to find in their food??

Meanwhile, here in Switzerland, 300grams of high quality, locally sourced, minced beef (from a cow) can be had for <7chf - and is absolutely delicious.
What it says on the label maybe?
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Illegal? that tends to mean criminal.

Gang? I think it is deemed that the horsemeat is not being put into the foodchain by just one person.

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If that is the definition for usage, why are we not hearing about "criminal gangs" in all walks of life all the time. Many "illegal" acts are committed by more than "one" person, often involving a "chain of actor", yet when they are reported on it is not said to involve "criminal gangs", but when it refers to East Europeans then......
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Old 18.02.2013, 11:59
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What it says on the label maybe?
Which bit?

The rusk?
The water?
The added fat?
The "Meat"?

Cheap meat products are not clean meat. From the killing of the animals to the processing of the product is not a pretty story.

Doesn't stop it from tasting "good".

A little bit (or 100%) horse would be the least of my worries
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Old 18.02.2013, 12:06
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Which bit?

The rusk?
The water?
The added fat?
The "Meat"?

Cheap meat products are not clean meat. From the killing of the animals to the processing of the product is not a pretty story.

Doesn't stop it from tasting "good".

A little bit (or 100%) horse would be the least of my worries

You're a car man, you buy a nice new car and get it really cheap, the best deal you could imagine, its a 3.0 litre.
Six months later you discover is was only a 2.5 litre is that all right because you got it cheap?
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Old 18.02.2013, 12:13
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You're a car man, you buy a nice new car and get it really cheap, the best deal you could imagine, its a 3.0 litre.
Six months later you discover is was only a 2.5 litre is that all right because you got it cheap?
It's more the fact that although you are worried about the fact that it's only a 2.5 Litre instead of a three; you don't seem to be worried that although you thought you were driving a BMW, you were actually driving a re-badged Lada.
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Old 18.02.2013, 12:21
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Re: British horsemeat scandal - Focus remains unfocussed

Hubby saw a report over the weekend saying that while the German authorities were searching horse meat in beef meat, they came to a pretty disturbing results as something along 7% of kebab meat (dit halal) were found with pork in it...



Any German on this forum who saw that?
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Hubby saw a report over the weekend saying that while the German authorities were searching horse meat in beef meat, they came to a pretty disturbing results as something along 7% of kebab meat (dit halal) were found with pork in it...



Any German on this forum who saw that?
Not really surprising. In Turkey, the percentage is probably even higher.
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Old 18.02.2013, 12:31
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Hubby saw a report over the weekend saying that while the German authorities were searching horse meat in beef meat, they came to a pretty disturbing results as something along 7% of kebab meat (dit halal) were found with pork in it...



Any German on this forum who saw that?
No, but apparently they can only discover whether a piece of meat contains a specific animal if the lab tests for that particular animal.

Apparently, they last tested for horsemeat in the U.K. several years ago.

They only did it this time due to a tip-off.

If it's any help, in one sample of meat they fund traces of beef, pork, horse and chicken.

So, it's possible that a lot of halal beef and chicken has contained pork for some time.

If it's any consolation, they don't test for dog or cat or zebra.
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Not really surprising. In Turkey, the percentage is probably even higher.
No, it isn't.

The problem in turkey isn't to find pork in the meat but to find donkey meat. Not joking.
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No, but apparently they can only discover whether a piece of meat contains a specific animal if the lab tests for that particular animal.

Apparently, they last tested for horsemeat in the U.K. several years ago.

They only did it this time due to a tip-off.

If it's any help, in one sample of meat they fund traces of beef, pork, horse and chicken.

So, it's possible that a lot of halal beef and chicken has contained pork for some time.

If it's any consolation, they don't test for dog or cat or zebra.
Not a consolation really...
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Old 18.02.2013, 12:34
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The problem in turkey isn't to find pork in the meat but to find donkey meat.
And what's wrong with donkey meat?

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And what's wrong with donkey meat?
If the label says 'mutton', then...

... is it just me, or is this entire conversation a bit repetitive?
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It's more the fact that although you are worried about the fact that it's only a 2.5 Litre instead of a three; you don't seem to be worried that although you thought you were driving a BMW, you were actually driving a re-badged Lada.
Exactly. Cow or Horse, Ox or Nag, Cat or Dog, it does not really matter. What matters is that they have now clue where their stuff originally comes from, what quality it is and most importantly that they do not care at all about as long as it is cheap and mostly harmless.

PS: They, means producers and customers alike.

PPS: The news has it, that Hilcona, Lichtensteins largest convenience food producer, has its share in the 'scandal'.

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And what's wrong with donkey meat?

Tom
The label.

You know, like horse meat being called beef meat in Europe?
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PS: They, means producers and costumers alike.

The tailors are in on the scam, too?!
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Exactly. Cow or Horse, Ox or Nag, Cat or Dog, it does not really matter. What matters is that they have now clue where their stuff originally comes from, what quality it is and most importantly that they do not care at all about as long as it is cheap and mostly harmless.
There was a consumer show on BBC radio 4 the other day. A chap phoned in to talk.

He, in his naive way said that wouldn't it be possible for the cheaper burgers be made from a cheaper cut of beef than the more expensive ones.

What do people think goes on in these meat processing plants?

It's not just about the horse meat - it's the fact that people seem clueless as to what they're actually buying.

The horsemeat etc scandal has not had any victims healthwise but I welcome it as a wake-up call for both the industry, and for the consumers.
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I slowly start wondering which animals (especially the ones that are generally not kept in farms) we can find in processed meat.
It feels a bit like having Noah's arc, lots of diseases and most antibiotics to kill them.
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