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Re: British horsemeat scandal - Focus remains unfocussed

In a recent spiegel.de article, I read that various advocacy-groups had warned about this some time before the scandal hit. They found that the amount of meat from horses slaughtered vs. the amount of horse-meat sold or exported (those numbers are easily available) did not add up by a large margin - hence they concluded that it must be "consumed" some other way - given all the recent meat-scandals, one doesn't have to be a genius to guess how that could "happen"...
My personal guess is that this has been going on for a *long* time - first probably as some sort of "insider"-trick and that it has spread in recent years till the practice got so widely used that the scheme is busted now.
What comes next - I honestly don't know. I lack the criminal energy to think what more could be messed up about our food...
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Old 26.02.2013, 01:25
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In a recent spiegel.de article, I read that various advocacy-groups had warned about this some time before the scandal hit. They found that the amount of meat from horses slaughtered vs. the amount of horse-meat sold or exported (those numbers are easily available) did not add up by a large margin - hence they concluded that it must be "consumed" some other way - given all the recent meat-scandals, one doesn't have to be a genius to guess how that could "happen"...
My personal guess is that this has been going on for a *long* time - first probably as some sort of "insider"-trick and that it has spread in recent years till the practice got so widely used that the scheme is busted now.
What comes next - I honestly don't know. I lack the criminal energy to think what more could be messed up about our food...
I by error got a piece of horsemeat instead of lamb. I only became aware of my error when trying to eat. It was miserable. And I threw it away. But beside the quality, WHO would eat "poodle-meat" or "terrier-meat" ??

So that it is easy to imagine that people for decades mixed horsemeat into beef or lamb. Just that I in recent years got the impression that the trade increasingly thought that people accepted horsemeat, which simply was not the case. Was horsemeat really delicious, the situation would be different. In reality the trade enjoyed to purchase horsemeat at 50% the price of lamb and sell it at 95% the price of lamb
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Old 26.02.2013, 11:33
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Just that I in recent years got the impression that the trade increasingly thought that people accepted horsemeat, which simply was not the case. Was horsemeat really delicious, the situation would be different.
Huh?

People eat and enjoy horse all the time!

What are you on about?

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Old 26.02.2013, 11:41
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Huh?

People eat and enjoy horse all the time!

What are you on about?

Tom
Not many, though. Even in Switzerland it seems to be something of a minority taste. Cows, deer and pigs simply taste better.
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Not many, though. Even in Switzerland it seems to be something of a minority taste. Cows, deer and pigs simply taste better.
Although there's more horse meat in our local supermarket than there is lamb.

No idea about the butchers as they hide everything away.
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No, they don't.

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In a recent spiegel.de article, I read that various advocacy-groups had warned about this some time before the scandal hit. They found that the amount of meat from horses slaughtered vs. the amount of horse-meat sold or exported (those numbers are easily available) did not add up by a large margin - hence they concluded that it must be "consumed" some other way - given all the recent meat-scandals, one doesn't have to be a genius to guess how that could "happen"...
My personal guess is that this has been going on for a *long* time - first probably as some sort of "insider"-trick and that it has spread in recent years till the practice got so widely used that the scheme is busted now.
What comes next - I honestly don't know. I lack the criminal energy to think what more could be messed up about our food...
Totally agree with you.
I also lack the criminal energy to think what else is messed up but I decided, since I know I would never be able to be a vegetarian, to only buy meat I can recognize, no minced meat, no ready meals (well, I rarely bought this stuff anyway).
Don't even want to think of genetically modified foods....
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Old 26.02.2013, 13:23
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In a recent spiegel.de article, I read that various advocacy-groups had warned about this some time before the scandal hit. They found that the amount of meat from horses slaughtered vs. the amount of horse-meat sold or exported (those numbers are easily available) did not add up by a large margin - hence they concluded that it must be "consumed" some other way - given all the recent meat-scandals, one doesn't have to be a genius to guess how that could "happen"...
My personal guess is that this has been going on for a *long* time - first probably as some sort of "insider"-trick and that it has spread in recent years till the practice got so widely used that the scheme is busted now.
What comes next - I honestly don't know. I lack the criminal energy to think what more could be messed up about our food...
Has anyone seen my pussy?
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I also lack the criminal energy to think what else is messed up but I decided, since I know I would never be able to be a vegetarian, to only buy meat I can recognize, no minced meat, no ready meals (well, I rarely bought this stuff anyway). .....
That can't be a bad thing. If one good thing comes out of this, it will be to get more people buying fresh meat rather than processed food; even better if it is locally produced as well.
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Not many, though. Even in Switzerland it seems to be something of a minority taste. Cows, deer and pigs simply taste better.
You sure about that?



Seems to me the British public might have been getting alternative cuts for a while now...
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Re: British horsemeat scandal - Focus remains unfocussed

It seems that horsemeat is the last of the problems if you buy South African Burgers

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...t-south-africa
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From "Titanic" Magazine:

More horsemeat found in british foods:
Charles in distress.
"Where's Camilla"
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Old 28.02.2013, 22:15
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Hopefully not Mozambican taxi drivers, though ...... as they were caught on "film", and can't now dispose of the evidence.
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Not necessarily in the meat-department.
Maybe we get something with eggs again.
Oh, wait. It already happened:
http://www.google.ch/search?hl=de&gl....1.VfqIGE9_c-k

But actually, that one is really only a variation of the 2011 willful-mislabeling scandal (Remember? Stuff from Italy labeled as "Bio" wasn't really "Bio" - who'd have guessed? A country where up to 50% of the GDP is generated outside the "official" economy, but every celery and every onion is accounted for... yeah, right. (Sorry, Italians - I don't blame you specifically, more the mentality of the people who buy this...).

Consumers vs. Food-Industry:
https://www.google.com/search?q=I+wa...w=1395&bih=855

Consumers vs. Reality:
https://www.google.com/search?q=I+wa...w=1395&bih=855
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Re: British horsemeat scandal - Focus remains unfocussed

So, here's one for those of you who still believe McD's to be the devil incarnate:

No horsemeat in McD's supply

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So, here's one for those of you who still believe McD's to be the devil incarnate:

No horsemeat in McD's supply

Knew that all along. McD's are control freaks over their goods so at least we (I) knew it wouldn't be a problem for them. There's a delicious irony (pardon the pun) about this, as they tend to source as much as possible from within national borders in strictly controlled environments.

Anway, reading the article, this could be a real benefit to the farming industries in the UK and possibly across Europe with people looking to source reliable meat from local sources with better control over food supply chains...
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Re: British horsemeat scandal - Focus remains unfocussed

Thénardier's song in Les Miserables;

Food beyond compare. Food beyond belief
Mix it in a mincer and pretend it's beef
Kidney of a horse, liver of a cat
Filling up the sausages with this and that


How true.
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Re: British horsemeat scandal - Focus remains unfocussed

The adverts for Pepperoni sausages in individual wraps in the UK says 'it's a bit of an animal' and the question always comes to mind -which bit of which animal?
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The adverts for Pepperoni sausages in individual wraps in the UK says 'it's a bit of an animal' and the question always comes to mind -which bit of which animal?
I wouldn't dare guess
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