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Old 11.02.2013, 21:20
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Old 11.02.2013, 21:23
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Old 11.02.2013, 23:52
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If you look at the time when I made the first post, I was reporting the information that was broadcast/published at that time - including 'criminal gangs' passing off horse meat as beef for inclusion in processed meat products in order to make a quick buck. The horses were reported to come from Romania, due to a surplus originating from horse drawn vehicles being banned from the highways.
As more details are discovered with time, than the facts may change ..... but that's not down to me, nor my responsibility.
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But for me, the thing of most concern, is the state of the fresh food market, being controlled by the power of the supermarkets, and driven by the consumer.

Whatever the outcome in this case, it is completely wrong that livestock from country A; are slaughtered and butchered in country B; to have the meat go for processing in country C; and the 'finished product' to be finally sold in country D.

If ever there was an argument for returning to old fashioned values and paying for quality occasionally, and not quantity daily, then this is it.
Whatever you insist you were reporting, it was false information. Romania has not so many horses as you imagine, not even horses for traction. Growing horses for consumption in big farms it's a relatively new thing, since some older EU member countries where eating horse meat is tradition, such as Italy, decided to invest in this area. Get your real facts, there's a lot of bullshit spread around. I, as a Romanian, I'm just amazed at the public imagery. Fantasy comes even from a French official, it's unbelievable. That law forbidding circulation of horses-pulled wagons on national roads (DNA- meaning big public roads) is old enough, since 2008 (or even older), and everyone could have noticed a drop or a change in using horses for traction, which was not the case.
Your speculations make me laugh but are a serious matter. Most importantly, horse meat is not consumed in any form in Romania. Those farms are only exporting this kind of meat, so you can imagine the price is made by the buyers, there's no internal market for that meat. I will repeat it again and again till someone would actually like to get real facts, not fantasies and speculations.

I agree with the second part of your post, with your concern I mean. The French bought horse meat and claim they only knew it was beef meat and labelled it accordingly...seriously? C'mon people, I'm thinking common sense now.

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Re: British horsemeat scandal - Focus switches to Romania

Horse meat scandal has now reached Switzerland - I heard on the radio this morning that Coop has removed certain lasagne from sale because of suspected Ross Fleisch content!
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Re: British horsemeat scandal - Focus switches to Romania

Later news on horse meat scandal. It seems the wrong labelling hasn't been done in Romania. But, of course, in the end it will not matter, the truth is always rewritten by the noisiest.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...91A14520130212
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Horse meat scandal has now reached Switzerland - I heard on the radio this morning that Coop has removed certain lasagne from sale because of suspected Ross Fleisch content!
It must be this one:

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The French bought horse meat and claim they only knew it was beef meat and labelled it accordingly...seriously? C'mon people, I'm thinking common sense now.
How can we (or a customs inspector) tell the difference between beef and horse meat?



I suppose there must be a way...
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Old 12.02.2013, 11:39
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Horse meat scandal has now reached Switzerland - I heard on the radio this morning that Coop has removed certain lasagne from sale because of suspected Ross Fleisch content!
Actually, I think it's the opposite. Hubby saw Findus lasagna on sale at Coop just last night. Better to sell it cheap than pull off the shelves.
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Re: British horsemeat scandal - Focus switches to Romania

As per my opinion Romanian horse meat is much more quality meat than other beef meat produced in several countries, except if UK did not add different chemicals to the prepared meat...Romanian horses grown in fields full of green grass (grazer), not like cows in many countries kept in corral ... muhaha, those who did not eat plain horse meat yet, i suggest them to try it! No fat meat for sure! )
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Actually, I think it's the opposite. Hubby saw Findus lasagna on sale at Coop just last night. Better to sell it cheap than pull off the shelves.
I think we've already agreed that Findus in Switzerland is not the same Findus as in the rest of Europe.

The Coop lasagne that I mentioned in my post is the one that's no longer available and was made at the same Luxembourg factory as others that contain horse meat.
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I think we've already agreed that Findus in Switzerland is not the same Findus as in the rest of Europe.
Find your humour button, honey. You don't find it the least bit amusing that the Findus lasagna scandal has erupted this week and yet that's exactly what's on sale at Coop? Same company or not, I thought it rather entertaining.
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Actually, I think it's the opposite. Hubby saw Findus lasagna on sale at Coop just last night. Better to sell it cheap than pull off the shelves.
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What troubles me is, will all this sh1t still taste as good, once the horse meat is removed?
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I think we've already agreed that Findus in Switzerland is not the same Findus as in the rest of Europe.
And if Swiss lasagne contained horsemeat, then it would be much better quality horsemeat than anywhere else.
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And if Swiss lasagne contained horsemeat, then it would be much better quality horsemeat than anywhere else.
Indeed, as it comes from Canada!

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How can we (or a customs inspector) tell the difference between beef and horse meat?



I suppose there must be a way...
sometimes it is really hard to see the difference

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Indeed, as it comes from Canada!

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I think the Mafia might be after me, I woke up this morning and there was a Findus lasagne on my pillow!
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How can we (or a customs inspector) tell the difference between beef and horse meat?



I suppose there must be a way...
Even we, the ignorant customers, can tell the difference between a few types of meat (if texture and colour doesn't tell us anything, then the smell will do).
Of course there are ways, laboratory tests for instance, although I expect a specialist in food industry to know a few things more than we do. I honestly don't buy that - they were "trapped" into buying horsemeat instead of beef, there must be sale documents that accompany every transaction...

If I wasn't so reluctant to eating horse meat, I would really like to give it a try, to see what's all this fuss about.. (kidding, it is a serious matter actually)

LE: Customs inspector? Really? The company that imported the meat is responsible for the reception of the meat, meaning they'll verify/check the imported goods. Customs inspector has no responsibility here.

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Re: British horsemeat scandal - Focus switches to Romania

Just back from the shops... Coop have pulled all their home brand lasagnas (they come from Comigel), Findus lasagnas are selling at 3 for the price of two with big labels saying Swiss Beef on them, Migros has swiss ground beef on special and their fresh bolognese lasagnas all carry "Viande Suisse" labels on them. Looks like the scare is on in this country too. Some PR companies must be making quite a mint!

Meanwhile I have a Migros own brand frozen lasagne verde lurking in the freezer, it says made in CH with CH beef but I'm a bit leery at this stage of this business.
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