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Re: US Presidential Race 2008

I thought these two events would happen at the same time

Half the population is voting then, that's about the same here in CH ...

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HOORAY! Nearly over!

Armegeddon or the 2nd coming: we'll know soon.

Shall we start a book on how many legal challenges, recounts and for how long?
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Old 03.11.2008, 16:35
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Your knowledge of Christian eschatology is impressive, Miss Sada. Indeed, dispensionalists (mainly evangelical fundamentalists) believe that the Second Coming of Christ will be the start of the "Millennium" where Jesus and the Saints will rule for a thousand years. Before this period, however, will come a time of destruction and war on Earth, called the "Tribulation", which will be ended by God defeating evil at the battle of Armageddon.
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Re: US Presidential Race 2008

Strange, that with each US presidential election some folks think the end of the world is approaching ...

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Your knowledge of Christian eschatology is impressive, Miss Sada. Indeed, dispensionalists (mainly evangelical fundamentalists) believe that the Second Coming of Christ will be the start of the "Millennium" where Jesus and the Saints will rule for a thousand years. Before this period, however, will come a time of destruction and war on Earth, called the "Tribulation", which will be ended by God defeating evil at the battle of Armageddon.
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Old 03.11.2008, 17:29
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...dispensionalists (mainly evangelical fundamentalists) believe that the Second Coming of Christ will be the start of the "Millennium" where Jesus and the Saints will rule for a thousand years. Before this period, however, will come a time of destruction and war on Earth, called the "Tribulation", which will be ended by God defeating evil at the battle of Armageddon.
It bears mentioning that while that premillenial, dispensational eschatology is the most widely held among American "evangelical fundamentalists," it's emergence and greatest growth in popularity is relatively recent, having its thickest roots in the 1970s with several books by Hal Lindsey (though its origin is in Darby's "rapture" & the "Scofield" Bible of the 1900s), and that alternative eschatologies still having many adherents include postmillenialism and amillenianlism, largely embraced by Christians of the "covenant theology" and/or "reformed" (i.e., Calvinist) variety. Many postmillenialists anticipate no future "tribulation" preceding Christ's return, recognizing the biblical "tribulation" instead as an historical period immediately preceding Rome's destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D.

(Apologies for going even further off-topic, but I thought Rusty's recap of dispensationalist eschatology — while wholly accurate — merited a bit of "balancing" clarification, lest anyone conclude that all American Christians anticipate Armageddon as a future event.)
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Re: US Presidential Race 2008

Thank you for the clarification, Mr Texaner. To veer back on topic, do you then think that the Christian Right's support for Israel in the US is motivated by self-interest? Moreover do you believe the so-called Christian Zionist view, which holds that the Jews must convert to Christianity or perish in a gigantic Holocaust in the battle of Armageddon, has a strong following?
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...do you then think that the Christian Right's support for Israel in the US is motivated by self-interest?
While I'm not certain what is meant by "self-interest" in this context, I think their support is of necessity very closely tied to Israel's "role" in their eschatology. Because a political/geographical "nation of Israel" plays a requisite part in their whole Rapture/Tribulation/2nd Coming scenario, they can't help but favor support for the present-day political/geographical "nation of Israel."

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...do you believe the so-called Christian Zionist view, which holds that the Jews must convert to Christianity or perish in a gigantic Holocaust in the battle of Armageddon, has a strong following?
Yes, I believe it has a strong following. My understanding is that the dispensational/premillenial eschatology (the one you described) is the most widely held in the U.S., and since Christian Zionism for the most part is an integral part of that view, it likewise is very widely held.
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Re: US Presidential Race 2008

I found this interesting...

McCain 510 Electoral Votes, Obama 28...How the electoral map looked 2 years ago
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Re: US Presidential Race 2008

Yes we could.
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